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Film camera
I read this
https://petapixel.com/2020/04/04/rar...tary-survival- training-photos-shot-with-a-holga-toy-camera/ and started thinking that perhaps there could be a market for a digital camera like this: - plactic body, a bit big - black and white images only - no EVF, only an OVF with plastic lenses - plastic, fixed focal length and fixed focus lens (no AF) - no LCD screen - inbuilt software which adds (strong) vignetting, and simulates a broken body where light from outside can randomly come in. - camera is limited to 36 shots at ISO 400. But you have the option to buy chip cards, which if inserted into the camera allow you to take another 36 shots. These chip cards are a bit bulky, the size of MF film cartridges, so that you won't carry too many of them with you. - to see the pictures you have to send these chip cards to a company. The company processes these chip cards and sends you back a CD with the pictures. But you have to wait a week. -- Alfred Molon Olympus 4/3 and micro 4/3 cameras forum at https://groups.io/g/myolympus https://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site |
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On Apr 4, 2020, Alfred Molon wrote
(in . com): I read this https://petapixel.com/2020/04/04/rar...tary-survival- training-photos-shot-with-a-holga-toy-camera/ and started thinking that perhaps there could be a market for a digital camera like this: - plactic body, a bit big - black and white images only - no EVF, only an OVF with plastic lenses - plastic, fixed focal length and fixed focus lens (no AF) - no LCD screen - inbuilt software which adds (strong) vignetting, and simulates a broken body where light from outside can randomly come in. - camera is limited to 36 shots at ISO 400. But you have the option to buy chip cards, which if inserted into the camera allow you to take another 36 shots. These chip cards are a bit bulky, the size of MF film cartridges, so that you won't carry too many of them with you. - to see the pictures you have to send these chip cards to a company. The company processes these chip cards and sends you back a CD with the pictures. But you have to wait a week. That pretty much seems like a novelty camera which would very quickly lose any appeal it might have had long before you had exhausted the first 36 shots. This is especially true since you can apply any number of light-leak, toy-camera, or “Holga” effects in post with existing cameras. All without having to wait a week to see what will probably be disappointing results, and then never use any such camera again. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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In article , Alfred
Molon wrote: I read this https://petapixel.com/2020/04/04/rar...tary-survival- training-photos-shot-with-a-holga-toy-camera/ broken link and started thinking that perhaps there could be a market for a digital camera like this: - plactic body, a bit big - black and white images only - no EVF, only an OVF with plastic lenses - plastic, fixed focal length and fixed focus lens (no AF) - no LCD screen - inbuilt software which adds (strong) vignetting, and simulates a broken body where light from outside can randomly come in. - camera is limited to 36 shots at ISO 400. But you have the option to buy chip cards, which if inserted into the camera allow you to take another 36 shots. These chip cards are a bit bulky, the size of MF film cartridges, so that you won't carry too many of them with you. - to see the pictures you have to send these chip cards to a company. The company processes these chip cards and sends you back a CD with the pictures. But you have to wait a week. there is no market for such a camera. intentionally making a product difficult and inconvenient to use while greatly limiting its feature set is not what sells. |
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nospam wrote:
In article , Alfred Molon wrote: I read this https://petapixel.com/2020/04/04/rar...tary-survival- training-photos-shot-with-a-holga-toy-camera/ broken link Just learn your reader to glue the two parts. and started thinking that perhaps there could be a market for a digital camera like this: - plactic body, a bit big - black and white images only Depends on the film you use. - no EVF, only an OVF with plastic lenses It's a film camera, can't you read? - plastic, fixed focal length and fixed focus lens (no AF) - no LCD screen It's a film camera, can't you read? - inbuilt software which adds (strong) vignetting, and simulates a broken body where light from outside can randomly come in. No software, optic design and investment only. - camera is limited to 36 shots at ISO 400. But you have the option to buy chip cards, which if inserted into the camera allow you to take another 36 shots. These chip cards are a bit bulky, the size of MF film cartridges, so that you won't carry too many of them with you. Where did you read that? Could you quote the part please. - to see the pictures you have to send these chip cards to a company. The company processes these chip cards and sends you back a CD with the pictures. But you have to wait a week. These aren't chip cards, they're film rolls. Poor teenager. there is no market for such a camera. It's not because you dont buy, or want, a Bentley that ther is no market. Grow up kid. intentionally making a product difficult and inconvenient to use while greatly limiting its feature set is not what sells. It's because it's inconvinient (hence more fun) to use that some people buy them; just like manual transmission cars. -- Vie : n.f. maladie mortelle sexuellement transmissible Benot chez leraillez.com |
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lid says... It's because it's inconvinient (hence more fun) to use that some people buy them; just like manual transmission cars. Seems to be the fun of being limited to a fixed number of shots, not knowing what you get. In addition, the look of these shots is like "survival mission" (crappy image quality), i.e. appeals to nostalgic people. -- Alfred Molon Olympus 4/3 and micro 4/3 cameras forum at https://groups.io/g/myolympus https://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site |
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In article
.com, says... That pretty much seems like a novelty camera which would very quickly lose any appeal it might have had long before you had exhausted the first 36 shots. This is especially true since you can apply any number of light-leak, toy-camera, or �Holga� effects in post with existing cameras. All without having to wait a week to see what will probably be disappointing results, and then never use any such camera again. The question is why this guy felt the need to bring along an old MF film camera and not for instance one of those small tough outdoor weather sealed cameras, such as for instance an Olympus Tough or something similar. -- Alfred Molon Olympus 4/3 and micro 4/3 cameras forum at https://groups.io/g/myolympus https://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site |
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In article , Alfred
Molon wrote: It's because it's inconvinient (hence more fun) to use that some people buy them; just like manual transmission cars. Seems to be the fun of being limited to a fixed number of shots, not knowing what you get. there is no fun in that. there never was fun in that. consumers do not want that. In addition, the look of these shots is like "survival mission" (crappy image quality), i.e. appeals to nostalgic people. smartphones can easily do that, and have for years. making a separate camera just for that would require the guts of a smartphone but without any of its features. |
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In article , Alfred
Molon wrote: and started thinking that perhaps there could be a market for a digital camera like this: - plactic body, a bit big - black and white images only - no EVF, only an OVF with plastic lenses - plastic, fixed focal length and fixed focus lens (no AF) - no LCD screen - inbuilt software which adds (strong) vignetting, and simulates a broken body where light from outside can randomly come in. - camera is limited to 36 shots at ISO 400. But you have the option to buy chip cards, which if inserted into the camera allow you to take another 36 shots. These chip cards are a bit bulky, the size of MF film cartridges, so that you won't carry too many of them with you. - to see the pictures you have to send these chip cards to a company. The company processes these chip cards and sends you back a CD with the pictures. But you have to wait a week. -- Alfred Molon I'm assuming sarcasm, but IIRC Yashica came back from the dead a couple of years ago for something similar. You'd put in "rolls of film" which contained storage and programming for the character of the "emulsion" used. Even had a film wind lever. Unsurprisingly, it was awful and no one bought it. Ooh! Found a link: https://petapixel.com/2018/10/18/yas...gifilm-camera- is-unexpectedly-bad/ |
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In article , says...
In article , Alfred Molon wrote: and started thinking that perhaps there could be a market for a digital camera like this: - plactic body, a bit big - black and white images only - no EVF, only an OVF with plastic lenses - plastic, fixed focal length and fixed focus lens (no AF) - no LCD screen - inbuilt software which adds (strong) vignetting, and simulates a broken body where light from outside can randomly come in. - camera is limited to 36 shots at ISO 400. But you have the option to buy chip cards, which if inserted into the camera allow you to take another 36 shots. These chip cards are a bit bulky, the size of MF film cartridges, so that you won't carry too many of them with you. - to see the pictures you have to send these chip cards to a company. The company processes these chip cards and sends you back a CD with the pictures. But you have to wait a week. -- Alfred Molon I'm assuming sarcasm, but IIRC Yashica came back from the dead a couple of years ago for something similar. You'd put in "rolls of film" which contained storage and programming for the character of the "emulsion" used. Even had a film wind lever. Unsurprisingly, it was awful and no one bought it. Ooh! Found a link: https://petapixel.com/2018/10/18/yas...gifilm-camera- is-unexpectedly-bad/ Interesting. Seems people want to have a real crap camera instead of a fake crap camera. -- Alfred Molon Olympus 4/3 and micro 4/3 cameras forum at https://groups.io/g/myolympus https://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site |
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