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Old January 6th 07, 01:02 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital
Laurence Payne
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On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 08:48:08 -0700, Bill Funk
wrote:

I love this wild optimism! Terrorists will "use other tactics".
Someone will "develop another power source" WHAT tactics? WHERE'S
the power source?


To tell the honest truth, you certainly seem to lack an imagination.


OK. Bill says these necessary developments are all in his
imagination. Anyone got anything better to offer?
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Old January 6th 07, 01:09 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital
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On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 14:18:24 -0500, Pudentame
wrote:

Ah. Mr. Heinlin. Writes a very good yarn, but his attitudes are
somewhat to the right of Genghis Kahn.


No, he merely, like many good SF authors took certain trends and
extrapolated them to a fantastic degree, to the exclusion of other
concurrent trends.


It's possible he was extrapolating redneck chauvinism. But I think
not. Authors' attitudes show through. I'm a long-time SF enthusiast,
not just judging on one or two books.
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Old January 6th 07, 01:11 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital
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On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 14:30:59 -0800, "William Graham"
wrote:

the
Brits do it right....They uncover plots on the ground, way in advance of the
time they are planned to be carried out....


Thanks for the compliment. But I'm afraid we have recently uncovered
a couple of plots that turned out to have as much substance as those
Weapons Of Mass Destruction.
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Old January 6th 07, 01:27 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital
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Ken Lucke wrote:

Oregon also, recently (a few years back), began using the "vibration
warning strips" (I don't know the actual technical name for them - the
countersunk grooves alongside the lane to warn you physically when you
stray over the line, by vibrating your teeth out of their sockets) on
secondary roads, not just on Interstates.


It't just that the dangerous old geezer is looking for
self-rationalization and justification for his dangerous decisions to
continue to drive when he freely admits that he is not capaple of doing
so safely don't allow him to admit such things.


Dood, you just contradicted yourowndamnself. Hell, with those strips,
you don't need to be able to see to drive, just drive by feel, for
goodness' sake.

  #966  
Old January 6th 07, 03:19 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital
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"Laurence Payne" lpayne1NOSPAM@dslDOTpipexDOTcom wrote in message
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On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 14:30:59 -0800, "William Graham"
wrote:

the
Brits do it right....They uncover plots on the ground, way in advance of
the
time they are planned to be carried out....


Thanks for the compliment. But I'm afraid we have recently uncovered
a couple of plots that turned out to have as much substance as those
Weapons Of Mass Destruction.


Well, there are always going to be dead end leads, and the police are always
going to be spending some percentage of their time in useless pursuits, but
in general, it's much better to do real police work, with infiltration of
the radical organizations, than it is to just blindly search every little
old lady who appears at the flight line on the off chance that she will be
carrying a knitting needle that's a little too long.......


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Old January 6th 07, 03:22 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital
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Ken Lucke wrote:

Oregon also, recently (a few years back), began using the "vibration
warning strips" (I don't know the actual technical name for them - the
countersunk grooves alongside the lane to warn you physically when you
stray over the line, by vibrating your teeth out of their sockets) on
secondary roads, not just on Interstates.


It't just that the dangerous old geezer is looking for
self-rationalization and justification for his dangerous decisions to
continue to drive when he freely admits that he is not capaple of doing
so safely don't allow him to admit such things.


Dood, you just contradicted yourowndamnself. Hell, with those strips,
you don't need to be able to see to drive, just drive by feel, for
goodness' sake.

Those things are great for sleepy truck drivers....They don't do me any
good. I am never more wide awake than when I am driving..... It's hard to
sleep when you think that you are about to die....:^)


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Old January 6th 07, 04:05 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital
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In article .com,
" wrote:

Ken Lucke wrote:

Oregon also, recently (a few years back), began using the "vibration
warning strips" (I don't know the actual technical name for them - the
countersunk grooves alongside the lane to warn you physically when you
stray over the line, by vibrating your teeth out of their sockets) on
secondary roads, not just on Interstates.


It't just that the dangerous old geezer is looking for
self-rationalization and justification for his dangerous decisions to
continue to drive when he freely admits that he is not capaple of doing
so safely don't allow him to admit such things.


Dood, you just contradicted yourowndamnself. Hell, with those strips,
you don't need to be able to see to drive, just drive by feel, for
goodness' sake.


Right. Drive by Braille, which seems to be his intended approach -
when you hit something, turn the wheel the other direction.

--
You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a
reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating
the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for
independence.
-- Charles A. Beard
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Old January 6th 07, 04:09 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital
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In article , Pudentame
wrote:

Ken Lucke wrote:
In article , Pudentame
wrote:

Ken Lucke wrote:

Uh, no. Sorry. The human pelvis is wider than that, even crushed.
Just because an octopus can squeeze itself out though a hole no bigger
than its beak, doesn't mean a human will squirt out a window similarly.

I see you still don't have an example. Cite ONE case where a human
being was blown out through an airliner window sized hole. Note the
parameters here, which are in line with the original discussion of
fireams in an airliner cabin.
3 November 1973; National Airlines DC10; over New Mexico, USA: The
aircraft had an uncontained failure of one of the wing mounted engines.
A piece of the engine struck the fuselage and broke a passenger window.
One of the 116 passengers was sucked out of the aircraft during a rapid
decompression. The remains of the passenger were not found.

NTSB Identification: DCA74AZ031


Does it specify that the hole remained only the size of the window, or
did the damage extend the aperture (g to use a photog term and have
some relevance to this group)? I'd wager on the latter.


Nope. You lose your bet.

Here's a photograph of the side of the aircraft, showing one missing
window. There's no enlargement of the window opening at all.

http://faalessons.workforceconnect.o...f_50e2efdca602

or

http://tinyurl.com/y69ed9


OK, I'll buy that one - if you look at the window size, in relation to
normal airliner window sizes that I'm used to, it's much larger - it's
almost full body size, from trying to do a comparison to the people
standing around and the perspective. Yes, I'd believe a body _could_
get blown out of a window that size.

--
You need only reflect that one of the best ways to get yourself a
reputation as a dangerous citizen these days is to go about repeating
the very phrases which our founding fathers used in the struggle for
independence.
-- Charles A. Beard
 




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