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  #21  
Old August 30th 12, 02:23 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Alan Browne
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Default Photoshop Elements sale: $59 Aug 28 only

On 2012.08.29 20:23 , Eric Stevens wrote:

Because Adobe retailers in the USA are not allowed to sell it to me
here in NZ. The retail price quoted in NZ is quoted in AU$ at AU$1186
which is US$1270.


Send me a cheque in Canadian funds, I'll purchase it locally and ship it
to you. If you want to do that we can discuss it by e-mail.


--
"C'mon boys, you're not laying pipe!".
-John Keating.
  #22  
Old August 30th 12, 02:29 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Savageduck[_3_]
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On 2012-08-29 18:10:35 -0700, tony cooper said:

On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:03:23 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2012-08-29 15:46:38 -0700, "Russell D." said:

On 08/28/2012 05:43 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
I received an advert via e-mail that Elements 10 is $40 off.

Code is: ELEMENTSDEAL (online or call center).

US and Canada (except Quebec for reasons that escape me).

Sorry this is so late - just opened my mail;


GIMP is still free.


Free, and after making the comparison with PS, it still sits unused on
my computer.
GIMP does a reasonable job for those who deny the functionality of
CS5/6, or those who insist of "free". You do get what you pay for.
After making the basic comparison and saying that they are both capable
of editing and adjusting image files, there is no contest. CS3/4/5/6
are all far superior to GIMP.

...but GIMP is "free".


I don't know how you can really compare Photoshop with GIMP.


You can't.

It's horses for courses.


Yup!

Anyone who has used both will tell you that GIMP is extremely limited
compared to Photoshop, but that's only a problem if you want to go
beyond the basic edits. Even GIMP is over-kill for some people.


Undoubtably.

Photoshop only becomes superior to GIMP when the user wants to
progress to more than GIMP can do.


No. It has always been superior. The tools have been there regardless
of the user's ability to deal with the program.

I think that if some malware went
out to all Photoshop users that crippled every function in Photoshop
that is not present in GIMP, that 90-some percent of the users would
be able to do exactly what they're doing now. (Professionals
excluded)

The same can be said for dslrs. Sneak in and superglue the cameras to
the AUTO setting and a majority of users would be producing the same
output they were when using A,S,P, and M...if they ever did.


Unlikely what ifs.

I thought you might have got my point.

I have made my attempt at GIMP and found it lacking for me. Others
might find it adequate, but those who tout it as a PS replacement are
delusional. There is no comparison.

....but it can edit and adjust image files, and most importantly for
many, it is free, and open source for the Linux crowd.

....and the last time I used "Auto" on a DSLR was the first week I had
my D70 some time in 2004.

--
Regards,

Savageduck

  #23  
Old August 30th 12, 03:58 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Eric Stevens
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Default Photoshop Elements sale: $59 Aug 28 only

On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:41:46 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2012-08-29 17:23:20 -0700, Eric Stevens said:

On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:43:28 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2012-08-29 15:29:51 -0700, Eric Stevens said:

On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:02:02 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 19:43:47 -0400, Alan Browne
wrote:

I received an advert via e-mail that Elements 10 is $40 off.

Code is: ELEMENTSDEAL (online or call center).

US and Canada (except Quebec for reasons that escape me).

Sorry this is so late - just opened my mail;

That's nuthin!

I got an offer for CS 6 for $300!

Here, in New Zealand, I have to pay over $1000. :-(

US$ ?????
If so why?


Because Adobe retailers in the USA are not allowed to sell it to me
here in NZ. The retail price quoted in NZ is quoted in AU$ at AU$1186
which is US$1270.


So there is some sinister profiteering in the "Land of OZ"?

I note that Adobe will sell from their web site, and will deliver via
download 1.1 GB CS6 for the US price of $699. If you want a hard copy
there is this note:

"What are Asia Pacific and Brazil shipping times and costs?
Shipping time is 3-5 days, and shipping costs are calculated
automatically when you place your order.*You can view your total
shipping charge at the time you place your order.
• Australia: Shipping is A$25. *
• Brazil: Shipping is US$25.
• Other countries:*The total weight of all items, shipping method
selected, and destination of the order determines the shipping cost.

Note: If you live in South Africa, New Zealand, Hong Kong, or Brazil,
the carrier (FedEx or UPS) charges you for any required taxes. The
carrier then pays them to the appropriate authorities. This tax doesn't
appear on your order during the checkout process.*"


With my NZ email address it directs me to the "Adobe Store - New
Zealand" where it (today) quotes me "A$1,061.82". This converts to
US$1,096.83. That's a better price than the last time I looked but it
still contains the 'Australian Tariff'.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #24  
Old August 30th 12, 03:59 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Savageduck[_3_]
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Default Photoshop Elements sale: $59 Aug 28 only

On 2012-08-29 19:16:00 -0700, tony cooper said:

On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:29:36 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2012-08-29 18:10:35 -0700, tony cooper said:

On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:03:23 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2012-08-29 15:46:38 -0700, "Russell D." said:

On 08/28/2012 05:43 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
I received an advert via e-mail that Elements 10 is $40 off.

Code is: ELEMENTSDEAL (online or call center).

US and Canada (except Quebec for reasons that escape me).

Sorry this is so late - just opened my mail;


GIMP is still free.

Free, and after making the comparison with PS, it still sits unused on
my computer.
GIMP does a reasonable job for those who deny the functionality of
CS5/6, or those who insist of "free". You do get what you pay for.
After making the basic comparison and saying that they are both capable
of editing and adjusting image files, there is no contest. CS3/4/5/6
are all far superior to GIMP.

...but GIMP is "free".

I don't know how you can really compare Photoshop with GIMP.


You can't.

It's horses for courses.


Yup!

Anyone who has used both will tell you that GIMP is extremely limited
compared to Photoshop, but that's only a problem if you want to go
beyond the basic edits. Even GIMP is over-kill for some people.


Undoubtably.

Photoshop only becomes superior to GIMP when the user wants to
progress to more than GIMP can do.


No. It has always been superior. The tools have been there regardless
of the user's ability to deal with the program.


That's true, but I think you're ignoring the meaning here. If the
user isn't aware of what the tool can do, and doesn't get training on
the use of the tool, it's as if the tool isn't there.

I think that if some malware went
out to all Photoshop users that crippled every function in Photoshop
that is not present in GIMP, that 90-some percent of the users would
be able to do exactly what they're doing now. (Professionals
excluded)

The same can be said for dslrs. Sneak in and superglue the cameras to
the AUTO setting and a majority of users would be producing the same
output they were when using A,S,P, and M...if they ever did.


Unlikely what ifs.

I thought you might have got my point.


I'm not talking about you, Duck. You're in the 10% because you
understand and use the tools in Photoshop.

I have made my attempt at GIMP and found it lacking for me. Others
might find it adequate, but those who tout it as a PS replacement are
delusional. There is no comparison.


It's a replacement for the people who use just the tools in Photoshop
that are present in GIMP. There are an awful lot of people in that
group. That's my point.

...but it can edit and adjust image files, and most importantly for
many, it is free, and open source for the Linux crowd.

...and the last time I used "Auto" on a DSLR was the first week I had
my D70 some time in 2004.


Again, this isn't about you.


OK! OK! I get it. I was just pushing the envelope a little bit.

Of course my D300S doesn't have an "Auto" mode, Just "P", "A", "S", &
"M", and those are selected via the rear command wheel.

....and not one "scene" mode to be found anywhere.

--
Regards,

Savageduck

  #25  
Old August 30th 12, 04:00 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Eric Stevens
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Default Photoshop Elements sale: $59 Aug 28 only

On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:55:17 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2012-08-29 17:23:20 -0700, Eric Stevens said:

On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:43:28 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2012-08-29 15:29:51 -0700, Eric Stevens said:

On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:02:02 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 19:43:47 -0400, Alan Browne
wrote:

I received an advert via e-mail that Elements 10 is $40 off.

Code is: ELEMENTSDEAL (online or call center).

US and Canada (except Quebec for reasons that escape me).

Sorry this is so late - just opened my mail;

That's nuthin!

I got an offer for CS 6 for $300!

Here, in New Zealand, I have to pay over $1000. :-(

US$ ?????
If so why?


Because Adobe retailers in the USA are not allowed to sell it to me
here in NZ. The retail price quoted in NZ is quoted in AU$ at AU$1186
which is US$1270.


Is that for CS6 standard or CS6 Extended?


CS6

CS6 EX is US$ 999 which at today's rate equates at AU$ 965.33.
CS6 is US$ 699 or AU$ 675.44

So, if that is the quote for standard CS6, there is something rotten in
the "Land of Oz".


Yep. I always add 20% to the price of anything which has to be
purchased via Australia.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #26  
Old August 30th 12, 04:01 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Eric Stevens
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Default Photoshop Elements sale: $59 Aug 28 only

On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 21:23:50 -0400, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2012.08.29 20:23 , Eric Stevens wrote:

Because Adobe retailers in the USA are not allowed to sell it to me
here in NZ. The retail price quoted in NZ is quoted in AU$ at AU$1186
which is US$1270.


Send me a cheque in Canadian funds, I'll purchase it locally and ship it
to you. If you want to do that we can discuss it by e-mail.


Thank you very much. I might yet take you up on that offer.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #27  
Old August 30th 12, 04:15 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Savageduck[_3_]
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On 2012-08-29 19:58:44 -0700, Eric Stevens said:

On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:41:46 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2012-08-29 17:23:20 -0700, Eric Stevens said:

On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:43:28 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2012-08-29 15:29:51 -0700, Eric Stevens said:

On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:02:02 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 19:43:47 -0400, Alan Browne
wrote:

I received an advert via e-mail that Elements 10 is $40 off.

Code is: ELEMENTSDEAL (online or call center).

US and Canada (except Quebec for reasons that escape me).

Sorry this is so late - just opened my mail;

That's nuthin!

I got an offer for CS 6 for $300!

Here, in New Zealand, I have to pay over $1000. :-(

US$ ?????
If so why?

Because Adobe retailers in the USA are not allowed to sell it to me
here in NZ. The retail price quoted in NZ is quoted in AU$ at AU$1186
which is US$1270.


So there is some sinister profiteering in the "Land of OZ"?

I note that Adobe will sell from their web site, and will deliver via
download 1.1 GB CS6 for the US price of $699. If you want a hard copy
there is this note:

"What are Asia Pacific and Brazil shipping times and costs?
Shipping time is 3-5 days, and shipping costs are calculated
automatically when you place your order.*You can view your total
shipping charge at the time you place your order.
• Australia: Shipping is A$25. *
• Brazil: Shipping is US$25.
• Other countries:*The total weight of all items, shipping method
selected, and destination of the order determines the shipping cost.

Note: If you live in South Africa, New Zealand, Hong Kong, or Brazil,
the carrier (FedEx or UPS) charges you for any required taxes. The
carrier then pays them to the appropriate authorities. This tax doesn't
appear on your order during the checkout process.*"


With my NZ email address it directs me to the "Adobe Store - New
Zealand" where it (today) quotes me "A$1,061.82". This converts to
US$1,096.83. That's a better price than the last time I looked but it
still contains the 'Australian Tariff'.


Again, is that for CS6 standard, or CS6 Extended?

There is a big difference both in features and price between the two.
That US$ 1,096.83 seems in line with US$ 999 for CS6 EX + the AUS
tariffs. Making it about a 7.8-10% markup on the US price.
If the same is true for CS6 with a US price of $ 699, then I would
expect to see a US$ 754-$ 770 (AU$ 728.59-774.05) for the Australian
retail.

....but then that might be wishful thinking on my part. ;-)

--
Regards,

Savageduck

  #28  
Old August 30th 12, 04:23 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Savageduck[_3_]
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Posts: 16,487
Default Photoshop Elements sale: $59 Aug 28 only

On 2012-08-29 19:58:44 -0700, Eric Stevens said:

On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:41:46 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2012-08-29 17:23:20 -0700, Eric Stevens said:

On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:43:28 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2012-08-29 15:29:51 -0700, Eric Stevens said:

On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:02:02 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 19:43:47 -0400, Alan Browne
wrote:

I received an advert via e-mail that Elements 10 is $40 off.

Code is: ELEMENTSDEAL (online or call center).

US and Canada (except Quebec for reasons that escape me).

Sorry this is so late - just opened my mail;

That's nuthin!

I got an offer for CS 6 for $300!

Here, in New Zealand, I have to pay over $1000. :-(

US$ ?????
If so why?

Because Adobe retailers in the USA are not allowed to sell it to me
here in NZ. The retail price quoted in NZ is quoted in AU$ at AU$1186
which is US$1270.


So there is some sinister profiteering in the "Land of OZ"?

I note that Adobe will sell from their web site, and will deliver via
download 1.1 GB CS6 for the US price of $699. If you want a hard copy
there is this note:

"What are Asia Pacific and Brazil shipping times and costs?
Shipping time is 3-5 days, and shipping costs are calculated
automatically when you place your order.*You can view your total
shipping charge at the time you place your order.
• Australia: Shipping is A$25. *
• Brazil: Shipping is US$25.
• Other countries:*The total weight of all items, shipping method
selected, and destination of the order determines the shipping cost.

Note: If you live in South Africa, New Zealand, Hong Kong, or Brazil,
the carrier (FedEx or UPS) charges you for any required taxes. The
carrier then pays them to the appropriate authorities. This tax doesn't
appear on your order during the checkout process.*"


With my NZ email address it directs me to the "Adobe Store - New
Zealand" where it (today) quotes me "A$1,061.82". This converts to
US$1,096.83. That's a better price than the last time I looked but it
still contains the 'Australian Tariff'.


Would you be able to hide your physical location behind a gmail address?
Then use one of our physical US addresses, preferably one of the Texas
brethren as I have a 7.25% California sales tax to deal with, for drop
shipping. I am not sure of the Sales tax issue in Florida.

You might even be able to get one of us to buy it via Amazon and have
it shipped as a gift.



--
Regards,

Savageduck

  #29  
Old August 30th 12, 04:28 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
Savageduck[_3_]
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On 2012-08-29 20:23:54 -0700, Savageduck said:

On 2012-08-29 19:58:44 -0700, Eric Stevens said:

On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:41:46 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2012-08-29 17:23:20 -0700, Eric Stevens said:

On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:43:28 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2012-08-29 15:29:51 -0700, Eric Stevens said:

On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 20:02:02 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 19:43:47 -0400, Alan Browne
wrote:

I received an advert via e-mail that Elements 10 is $40 off.

Code is: ELEMENTSDEAL (online or call center).

US and Canada (except Quebec for reasons that escape me).

Sorry this is so late - just opened my mail;

That's nuthin!

I got an offer for CS 6 for $300!

Here, in New Zealand, I have to pay over $1000. :-(

US$ ?????
If so why?

Because Adobe retailers in the USA are not allowed to sell it to me
here in NZ. The retail price quoted in NZ is quoted in AU$ at AU$1186
which is US$1270.

So there is some sinister profiteering in the "Land of OZ"?

I note that Adobe will sell from their web site, and will deliver via
download 1.1 GB CS6 for the US price of $699. If you want a hard copy
there is this note:

"What are Asia Pacific and Brazil shipping times and costs?
Shipping time is 3-5 days, and shipping costs are calculated
automatically when you place your order.*You can view your total
shipping charge at the time you place your order.
• Australia: Shipping is A$25. *
• Brazil: Shipping is US$25.
• Other countries:*The total weight of all items, shipping method
selected, and destination of the order determines the shipping cost.
Note: If you live in South Africa, New Zealand, Hong Kong, or Brazil,
the carrier (FedEx or UPS) charges you for any required taxes. The
carrier then pays them to the appropriate authorities. This tax doesn't
appear on your order during the checkout process.*"


With my NZ email address it directs me to the "Adobe Store - New
Zealand" where it (today) quotes me "A$1,061.82". This converts to
US$1,096.83. That's a better price than the last time I looked but it
still contains the 'Australian Tariff'.


Would you be able to hide your physical location behind a gmail address?
Then use one of our physical US addresses, preferably one of the Texas
brethren as I have a 7.25% California sales tax to deal with, for drop
shipping. I am not sure of the Sales tax issue in Florida.

You might even be able to get one of us to buy it via Amazon and have
it shipped as a gift.


I just checked with Amazon and found this:

http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-65158237...1&keywords=cs6


$566.85!!!

--
Regards,

Savageduck

  #30  
Old August 30th 12, 04:31 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital,alt.photography
PeterN
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On 8/29/2012 10:59 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2012-08-29 19:16:00 -0700, tony cooper said:

On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:29:36 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2012-08-29 18:10:35 -0700, tony cooper
said:

On Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:03:23 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2012-08-29 15:46:38 -0700, "Russell D." said:

On 08/28/2012 05:43 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
I received an advert via e-mail that Elements 10 is $40 off.

Code is: ELEMENTSDEAL (online or call center).

US and Canada (except Quebec for reasons that escape me).

Sorry this is so late - just opened my mail;


GIMP is still free.

Free, and after making the comparison with PS, it still sits unused on
my computer.
GIMP does a reasonable job for those who deny the functionality of
CS5/6, or those who insist of "free". You do get what you pay for.
After making the basic comparison and saying that they are both
capable
of editing and adjusting image files, there is no contest. CS3/4/5/6
are all far superior to GIMP.

...but GIMP is "free".

I don't know how you can really compare Photoshop with GIMP.

You can't.

It's horses for courses.

Yup!

Anyone who has used both will tell you that GIMP is extremely limited
compared to Photoshop, but that's only a problem if you want to go
beyond the basic edits. Even GIMP is over-kill for some people.

Undoubtably.

Photoshop only becomes superior to GIMP when the user wants to
progress to more than GIMP can do.

No. It has always been superior. The tools have been there regardless
of the user's ability to deal with the program.


That's true, but I think you're ignoring the meaning here. If the
user isn't aware of what the tool can do, and doesn't get training on
the use of the tool, it's as if the tool isn't there.

I think that if some malware went
out to all Photoshop users that crippled every function in Photoshop
that is not present in GIMP, that 90-some percent of the users would
be able to do exactly what they're doing now. (Professionals
excluded)

The same can be said for dslrs. Sneak in and superglue the cameras to
the AUTO setting and a majority of users would be producing the same
output they were when using A,S,P, and M...if they ever did.

Unlikely what ifs.

I thought you might have got my point.


I'm not talking about you, Duck. You're in the 10% because you
understand and use the tools in Photoshop.

I have made my attempt at GIMP and found it lacking for me. Others
might find it adequate, but those who tout it as a PS replacement are
delusional. There is no comparison.


It's a replacement for the people who use just the tools in Photoshop
that are present in GIMP. There are an awful lot of people in that
group. That's my point.

...but it can edit and adjust image files, and most importantly for
many, it is free, and open source for the Linux crowd.

...and the last time I used "Auto" on a DSLR was the first week I had
my D70 some time in 2004.


Again, this isn't about you.


OK! OK! I get it. I was just pushing the envelope a little bit.

Of course my D300S doesn't have an "Auto" mode, Just "P", "A", "S", &
"M", and those are selected via the rear command wheel.

....and not one "scene" mode to be found anywhere.


Uhm! Why isn't P, with auto WB the same as an auto mode?


--
Peter
 




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