We need to ban all handguns in America NOW

On 29 Apr 2007 04:41:32 -0700, 9 Trillion Dollar Republican National
Debt wrote:

On Apr 29, 6:56 am, Gunner wrote:
On 28 Apr 2007 23:55:06 -0700, Bushzilla wrote:



= Tougher laws have never worked in this regard, and the social
= consequences are very bad.
= For an example, look at our War on Drugs.

Then whatever laws you are referring too were not tough enough, they
need to be tougher, particularly in carrying long jail sentences. It's
kind of hard to buy illegal weapons or any weapons of any kind for
that matter and shoot up a bunch of people when you are sitting in
jail.

= We did increase the penalties for drugs. In fact..3 Strikes is
involved
= and drug crimes continue unabated.

only a stupid ass like you would think when you pass new laws suddenly
no one will ever commit a crime ever again.

So why do you keep saying new laws will solve things?

= So you still in your utter buffoonish and twisted world view, think
that
= more laws, that have been proven to be ineffectual, will somehow
work?

The only utter buffoon posting on this thread so far is you, along
with the fact you are a psychopath with some serious anger issues, no
doubt.

You have voices telling you to kill your whole family and then shoot up
a pre-school..and you call ME a psychopath??????

= Ill bet you are one of those morons that insists that throwing more
and
= more money at the problem will someday win the War on Poverty too?

Oh there is no question in my mind you -are- a moron who thinks the
poor are poor by choice and it's all their own fault.

Please answer the question. LBJs Great Society declared A War on
Poverty 50 yrs ago..and we have spent gazillions of dollars on the
war..and to what result? We have as many or more "poor" per capita than
we did before we started tossing money at it in trainload lots.

You ARE that stupid. So why didnt you simply admit it?

= Thank you very much..but Ill keep carrying my legal CCW, because I
know
= my well proven method works..and yours, like Communism..is an utter
= failure.

You can shove your legal CCW up your ignorant ass for all I care
weirdo.

Hit a nerve when I called Communism a failure..didnt I?

Sorry Comrade..truth hurts I guess. Now go seek out a mental health
professional to help you stop the "voices" and work on that self esteem
issue. Though..that may be harder. Frankly..you ARE inferior to most
people..so they are gonna have their work cut out for them.

Gunner



Gunner

"I don't want to abolish government.
I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can
drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.
-- Grover Norquist


"I don't want to abolish government.
I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can
drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.
-- Grover Norquist

On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 07:27:59 -0700, Bill Funk wrote:

On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 04:11:22 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

OK, to take it to an extreme...

Someone enters a gun store, screaming threats, jumping up and down, etc.

Does the store have the right to refuse to sell the person a gun?

Oh yes..and the moral duty to not sell. However..the store may well be
sued out of business for NOT selling the weapon to the individual

I don't think the store could be successfully sued for this.
In fact, the store would be entirely within its rights to call the
police.
I also don't think the ACLU would get involved in this particular
case.


If a minority member came in, and something didnt ring right..though he
passed all the background or Instachecks..and the store owner refused to
sell...he could (and such has happened) get sued for discrimination.

Its happened in the South on a number of occasions.

Gunner

"I don't want to abolish government.
I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can
drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.
-- Grover Norquist

On 29 Apr 2007 17:39:09 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:



We did increase the penalties for drugs. In fact..3 Strikes is involved
and drug crimes continue unabated.

So you still in your utter buffoonish and twisted world view, think that
more laws, that have been proven to be ineffectual, will somehow work?

They do in much of the rest of the world.


Cites please. Then it will be my turn to make you look the fool..again.

Gunner, getting his stats in order
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Gunner wrote:
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 07:27:59 -0700, Bill Funk wrote:

On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 04:11:22 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

OK, to take it to an extreme...

Someone enters a gun store, screaming threats, jumping up and down, etc.

Does the store have the right to refuse to sell the person a gun?
Oh yes..and the moral duty to not sell. However..the store may well be
sued out of business for NOT selling the weapon to the individual
I don't think the store could be successfully sued for this.
In fact, the store would be entirely within its rights to call the
police.
I also don't think the ACLU would get involved in this particular
case.


If a minority member came in, and something didnt ring right..though he
passed all the background or Instachecks..and the store owner refused to
sell...he could (and such has happened) get sued for discrimination.

Its happened in the South on a number of occasions.

Racial discrimination in the South? Say it isn't so!

So, what was the outcome of the lawsuit?

--
Notan

In article , Bill Funk
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 04:11:22 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

OK, to take it to an extreme...

Someone enters a gun store, screaming threats, jumping up and down, etc.

Does the store have the right to refuse to sell the person a gun?

Oh yes..and the moral duty to not sell. However..the store may well be
sued out of business for NOT selling the weapon to the individual

I don't think the store could be successfully sued for this.
In fact, the store would be entirely within its rights to call the
police.
I also don't think the ACLU would get involved in this particular
case.

Not if the would-be buyer in not a negro.

Ask Denny's if they still have the ability to refuse service to gangs
of negroes they fully expect will get up and leave without paying.

(At least the Denny's employees spit in their food, not the hooligans
notice.)


--Tim May

On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:03:54 -0600, Notan notan@ddressthatcanbespammed
wrote:

Gunner wrote:
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 07:27:59 -0700, Bill Funk wrote:

On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 04:11:22 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

OK, to take it to an extreme...

Someone enters a gun store, screaming threats, jumping up and down, etc.

Does the store have the right to refuse to sell the person a gun?
Oh yes..and the moral duty to not sell. However..the store may well be
sued out of business for NOT selling the weapon to the individual
I don't think the store could be successfully sued for this.
In fact, the store would be entirely within its rights to call the
police.
I also don't think the ACLU would get involved in this particular
case.


If a minority member came in, and something didnt ring right..though he
passed all the background or Instachecks..and the store owner refused to
sell...he could (and such has happened) get sued for discrimination.

Its happened in the South on a number of occasions.

Racial discrimination in the South? Say it isn't so!

So, what was the outcome of the lawsuit?


They..settled out of court.

Gunner

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On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:03:54 -0600, Notan notan@ddressthatcanbespammed
wrote:


If a minority member came in, and something didnt ring right..though he
passed all the background or Instachecks..and the store owner refused to
sell...he could (and such has happened) get sued for discrimination.

Its happened in the South on a number of occasions.

Racial discrimination in the South? Say it isn't so!

So, what was the outcome of the lawsuit?

--
Notan


Oh...btw..racism is much less likely into todays South, than it is in
todays North.

Just a heads up.

Gunner

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Gunner wrote:
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 13:03:54 -0600, Notan notan@ddressthatcanbespammed
wrote:

If a minority member came in, and something didnt ring right..though he
passed all the background or Instachecks..and the store owner refused to
sell...he could (and such has happened) get sued for discrimination.

Its happened in the South on a number of occasions.
Racial discrimination in the South? Say it isn't so!

So, what was the outcome of the lawsuit?

--
Notan


Oh...btw..racism is much less likely into todays South, than it is in
todays North.

Just a heads up.

With half my family from the North, and half from the South, the only
difference I see is the North hides it better.

--
Notan

On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:05:19 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 07:27:59 -0700, Bill Funk wrote:

On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 04:11:22 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

OK, to take it to an extreme...

Someone enters a gun store, screaming threats, jumping up and down, etc.

Does the store have the right to refuse to sell the person a gun?

Oh yes..and the moral duty to not sell. However..the store may well be
sued out of business for NOT selling the weapon to the individual

I don't think the store could be successfully sued for this.
In fact, the store would be entirely within its rights to call the
police.
I also don't think the ACLU would get involved in this particular
case.


If a minority member came in, and something didnt ring right..though he
passed all the background or Instachecks..and the store owner refused to
sell...he could (and such has happened) get sued for discrimination.

Its happened in the South on a number of occasions.

This is your response?
Why didn't you start talking about dinnerware, too?
We were discussing someone who came into a store, "screaming threats,
jumping up and down, etc.".
Remember?
I would imagine "screaming threats, jumping up and down, etc." would
definitely be beyond something that didn't ring right.

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On Apr 29, 1:54 pm, Gunner wrote:
On 29 Apr 2007 04:41:32 -0700, 9 Trillion Dollar Republican National



Debt wrote:
On Apr 29, 6:56 am, Gunner wrote:
On 28 Apr 2007 23:55:06 -0700, Bushzilla wrote:

= Tougher laws have never worked in this regard, and the social
= consequences are very bad.
= For an example, look at our War on Drugs.

Then whatever laws you are referring too were not tough enough, they
need to be tougher, particularly in carrying long jail sentences. It's
kind of hard to buy illegal weapons or any weapons of any kind for
that matter and shoot up a bunch of people when you are sitting in
jail.

= We did increase the penalties for drugs. In fact..3 Strikes is
involved
= and drug crimes continue unabated.

only a stupid ass like you would think when you pass new laws suddenly
no one will ever commit a crime ever again.

= So why do you keep saying new laws will solve things?

Because you are so glaringly retarded and everything must be repeated
to you a dozen times before you comprehend it, I will state once again
that, we will never stop all shootings as you ignorantly suggested,
but we certainly could be doing more to curb the violence and reduce
the number of incidents, stiffer penalties, especially longer jail
sentences will certainly achieve that goal. Do you understand the
point yet, moron?



= So you still in your utter buffoonish and twisted world view, think
that
= more laws, that have been proven to be ineffectual, will somehow
work?

The only utter buffoon posting on this thread so far is you, along
with the fact you are a psychopath with some serious anger issues, no
doubt.

= You have voices telling you to kill your whole family and then shoot
up
= a pre-school..and you call ME a psychopath??????

yes you are a psychopath, no question about that, for the record you
are the one who made the following ill remark, these are the kinds of
things you think about apparently --

Gunner On 24 Apr 2007 01:16:19 -0700

"Its likely you would suddenly run amok and
shoot up a preschool, after massacring your entire family"

So have you massacred your family yet? planning to shoot up your local
pre-school are you? should we be concerned? something you want to tell
us about? you know you really should be sharing this with a
psychiatrist. It is good you let us know these are the kinds of
visions you have, your mental instability has been noted and recorded
for future reference.



= Ill bet you are one of those morons that insists that throwing more
and
= more money at the problem will someday win the War on Poverty too?

Oh there is no question in my mind you -are- a moron who thinks the
poor are poor by choice and it's all their own fault.

= Please answer the question. LBJs Great Society declared A War on
= Poverty 50 yrs ago..and we have spent gazillions of dollars on the
= war..and to what result? We have as many or more "poor" per capita
than
= we did before we started tossing money at it in trainload lots.

Have you ever though, I know it's not that easy in your case, but
imagine a world where the overall population has grown considerably in
50 years. Then imagine that obviously the number of poor, middle class
and upper class has naturally grown with that number. Your point
again?


= You ARE that stupid. So why didnt you simply admit it?

is that why you just copied me?




= Thank you very much..but Ill keep carrying my legal CCW, because I
know
= my well proven method works..and yours, like Communism..is an utter
= failure.

You can shove your legal CCW up your ignorant ass for all I care
weirdo.

= Hit a nerve when I called Communism a failure..didnt I?

Actually not even close, I think it's amusing how you feel a need to
wave your credentials around, pretty insecure behavior on your part..


Sorry Comrade..truth hurts I guess. Now go seek out a mental health
professional to help you stop the "voices" and work on that self esteem
issue. Though..that may be harder. Frankly..you ARE inferior to most
people..so they are gonna have their work cut out for them.

Gunner



Gunner

"I don't want to abolish government.
I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can
drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.
-- Grover Norquist

"I don't want to abolish government.
I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can
drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.
-- Grover Norquist