Getting that film look

Scott W wrote:
There have been a lot of people who say they just don't like the look
of digital photos,

Hey jackass, when are you going to get it into your head that this is
primarily a 35mm group? Your bull**** advice is unwelcome here.

On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 07:03:41 GMT, no_name
wrote:

[snip]
And because the earth is farther from the sun while it's summer in the
southern hemisphere, summers are generally milder as well.

It's the Earth's tilt and not distance from the sun that determines
summer and winter.

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/seasons.html

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no_name wrote:
Scott W wrote:
If it gets warmer in the summertime were you are then you live way to
far from the equator.

Earth's orbit is an ellipse. The earth IS closer to the sun when it's
summer IN THE NORTHERN HEMISPHERE.

Actually that's backwards. The Earth is closer to the sun in the
northern winter. In fact the Earth will be at its closest point to
the sun in just a couple of weeks on January 4th.

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/EarthSeasons.html

Also helps to account for why
southern hemisphere winters are generally milder that norhtern
hemisphere winters.

Are they? Geography makes a far, far bigger difference in local
climate. Most of the land mass is in the northern hemisphere and
that tends to make weather more extreme.

--
Ray Fischer

"Kulvinder Singh Matharu" wrote in message
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On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 07:03:41 GMT, no_name
wrote:

[snip]
And because the earth is farther from the sun while it's summer in the
southern hemisphere, summers are generally milder as well.

It's the Earth's tilt and not distance from the sun that determines
summer and winter.

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/seasons.html

Yes. - I think the problem is understanding how the, "tilt" affects the mean
temperature....days are not only shorter in the winter, but the sun is
closer to the horizon during mid day, or, IOW, it stays closer to the
horizon throughout the entire day, so the earth in that hemisphere does not
get the full warming effect that is received in the other hemisphere where
the pole is tilted toward the sun, and the days are longer and more directly
exposed to the sun's warming effect. Apparently some people think that the
tilt puts the other pole further away, and this caused the difference. But
only a few thousand miles further away wouldn't do it. It would have to be
several million miles further away before it would make a noticeable
difference......

"Ray Fischer" wrote in message
...
no_name wrote:
Scott W wrote:
If it gets warmer in the summertime were you are then you live way to
far from the equator.

Earth's orbit is an ellipse. The earth IS closer to the sun when it's
summer IN THE NORTHERN HEMISPHERE.

Actually that's backwards. The Earth is closer to the sun in the
northern winter. In fact the Earth will be at its closest point to
the sun in just a couple of weeks on January 4th.

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/EarthSeasons.html

Also helps to account for why
southern hemisphere winters are generally milder that norhtern
hemisphere winters.

Are they? Geography makes a far, far bigger difference in local
climate. Most of the land mass is in the northern hemisphere and
that tends to make weather more extreme.

--
Ray Fischer


Yes....I was speculating that the earth to sun's greater distance during the
northern hemisphere Summers would have a mitigating effect on the weather
extremes in that hemisphere, but the land mass difference has a much greater
effect.....

Matt Clara wrote:

Scott W wrote:
There have been a lot of people who say they just don't like the look
of digital photos,

Hey jackass, when are you going to get it into your head that this is
primarily a 35mm group? Your bull**** advice is unwelcome here.

Scott is the last person you should call a jackass. You, Clara, are the
archetypal jackass, with your smart mouth and put-down postings. *That*
is not welcome here. I have yet to read anything constructive from you.

FYI, this is a 35mm *equipment* group. I say it again to get it through
your jackass head: *THIS IS THE REC.PHOTO.EQUIPMENT.35MM* group. Note
the word *EQUIPMENT*. IT DOES NOT SAY, OR MEAN, *FILM*. This group has
long accepted that digital cameras derived from 35mm *equipment* have a
place here, as does discussion about digital vs. 35mm film.

After a gratuitous attack on me, I called you a sidewinding little
****. I have seen nothing from you since that would cause me to change
my mind. Just the opposite, in fact.

Colin D.

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William Graham wrote:

"Kulvinder Singh Matharu" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 07:03:41 GMT, no_name
wrote:

[snip]
And because the earth is farther from the sun while it's summer in the
southern hemisphere, summers are generally milder as well.

It's the Earth's tilt and not distance from the sun that determines
summer and winter.

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/seasons.html

Yes. - I think the problem is understanding how the, "tilt" affects the mean
temperature....days are not only shorter in the winter, but the sun is
closer to the horizon during mid day, or, IOW, it stays closer to the
horizon throughout the entire day, so the earth in that hemisphere does not
get the full warming effect that is received in the other hemisphere where
the pole is tilted toward the sun, and the days are longer and more directly
exposed to the sun's warming effect. Apparently some people think that the
tilt puts the other pole further away, and this caused the difference. But
only a few thousand miles further away wouldn't do it. It would have to be
several million miles further away before it would make a noticeable
difference......

The days are shorter and the incident radiation per unit area of ground
goes as cos(angle)-- the ground gets warmer when the sun shines straight
down compared with coming at an angle.

--
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cultural figures. Instead we get them from books, TV or movies, so the
characters that today provide us a common language are corporate
creatures" -- Rebecca Tushnet

William Graham wrote:

"Kulvinder Singh Matharu" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 07:03:41 GMT, no_name
wrote:

[snip]
And because the earth is farther from the sun while it's summer in the
southern hemisphere, summers are generally milder as well.

It's the Earth's tilt and not distance from the sun that determines
summer and winter.

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/seasons.html

Yes. - I think the problem is understanding how the, "tilt" affects the mean
temperature....days are not only shorter in the winter, but the sun is
closer to the horizon during mid day, or, IOW, it stays closer to the
horizon throughout the entire day, so the earth in that hemisphere does not
get the full warming effect that is received in the other hemisphere where
the pole is tilted toward the sun, and the days are longer and more directly
exposed to the sun's warming effect. Apparently some people think that the
tilt puts the other pole further away, and this caused the difference. But
only a few thousand miles further away wouldn't do it. It would have to be
several million miles further away before it would make a noticeable
difference......

Have a look at http://aa.usno.navy.mil/faq/docs/seasons_orbit.html

Colin D.

William Graham wrote:

I am exactly 45 degrees North of the equator.....I think the hottest months
at the equator must be April and October......During these months the sun is
directly overhead during midday.....

I'm surprised nobody caught this one yet. The Earth's tilt
is 23.4 degrees. So at latitudes within 23.4 degrees of the
equator, the sun can appear directly overhead. At latitudes
further than 23.4 degrees, the sun never gets directly overhead.
At latitude 45 degrees, the maximum altitude of the sun
is 90 - (45-23.4) = 68.4 degrees.

Roger

Roger N. Clark (change username to rnclark) wrote:
William Graham wrote:

I am exactly 45 degrees North of the equator.....I think the hottest months
at the equator must be April and October......During these months the sun is
directly overhead during midday.....

I'm surprised nobody caught this one yet. The Earth's tilt
is 23.4 degrees. So at latitudes within 23.4 degrees of the
equator, the sun can appear directly overhead. At latitudes
further than 23.4 degrees, the sun never gets directly overhead.
At latitude 45 degrees, the maximum altitude of the sun
is 90 - (45-23.4) = 68.4 degrees.

Roger

WIlliam was talking about at the equator.
Personally I feel anybody living further north then 23.4 degrees is a
bit nuts.