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Film cameras that store exposure information
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I am thinking of getting some decent 35mm gear. It would be nice to have a film camera that could save exposure info much like the exif from a digital camera. I understand the n90(s) can do this and the data can be downloaded to a computer.From memory other cameras can imprint the exposure info between frames and some (contax?) can imprint shooting data on the first two frames of the roll. I cant recall which which cameras have this ability apart from the n90s. If anyone does know can you please post your suggestions Thanks to everyone Nav |
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Nav, The Nikon F100, F5, and F6 all will dowload the information via the Nikon MV-1 data unit, to a compact flash card; one then reads the card to your computer and then can print out the shooting data. The data will include not only the aperture and shutter speed, but EV settings, and other settings in the camera, per shot. The MF-23 databack does imprint between or within frames, the aperture and shutter speed only, per frame; the MF-23 works with the F4S camera. All items listed above are Nikon brand items. Good luck. "piggyme" wrote in message .233... Hi all I am thinking of getting some decent 35mm gear. It would be nice to have a film camera that could save exposure info much like the exif from a digital camera. I understand the n90(s) can do this and the data can be downloaded to a computer.From memory other cameras can imprint the exposure info between frames and some (contax?) can imprint shooting data on the first two frames of the roll. I cant recall which which cameras have this ability apart from the n90s. If anyone does know can you please post your suggestions Thanks to everyone Nav |
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piggyme wrote: Hi all I am thinking of getting some decent 35mm gear. It would be nice to have a film camera that could save exposure info much like the exif from a digital camera. I understand the n90(s) can do this and the data can be downloaded to a computer.From memory other cameras can imprint the exposure info between frames and some (contax?) can imprint shooting data on the first two frames of the roll. I cant recall which which cameras have this ability apart from the n90s. If anyone does know can you please post your suggestions Thanks to everyone Nav The Maxxum 7 prints on the first two? frames all the exposure data and has some kind of device/hook up cable that allows you to download the info from the camera too. The Pentax MZ-S (Pentax's top of the line film camera) actually prints the exposure info in the rebate edge between frames/outside the picture area. The Maxxum 9 may also have some provision for recording film exposure data either outside the film frame, or on a separate frame(s) but you'll have to do some digging to find out unless somebody on this group also has that information. |
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"piggyme" wrote in message .233... Hi all I am thinking of getting some decent 35mm gear. It would be nice to have a film camera that could save exposure info much like the exif from a digital camera. I understand the n90(s) can do this and the data can be downloaded to a computer.From memory other cameras can imprint the exposure info between frames and some (contax?) can imprint shooting data on the first two frames of the roll. I cant recall which which cameras have this ability apart from the n90s. If anyone does know can you please post your suggestions Thanks to everyone Nav I had one of the new type Pentax's; the ZX-30 with a data back that would prind just about anything or nothing on the neg. I guess all of the ZX/MZ series would do that. But I'm sure that all the data back cameras would do that. Bob Hickey |
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"piggyme" wrote in message
.233... Hi all I am thinking of getting some decent 35mm gear. It would be nice to have a film camera that could save exposure info much like the exif from a digital camera. I understand the n90(s) can do this and the data can be downloaded to a computer.From memory other cameras can imprint the exposure info between frames and some (contax?) can imprint shooting data on the first two frames of the roll. I cant recall which which cameras have this ability apart from the n90s. If anyone does know can you please post your suggestions Thanks to everyone The Pentax MZ-S prints a range of info. on the film rebate, between the sprocket holes, and can also be set to print a sequential number at the start of each roll of film, which is useful. The info. in the rebate includes, as far as I recall, what metering pattern was selected, what focus mode, aperture and shutter speed, and I think some others (don't have any film in front of me as I types this). Aperture and shutter speed are the most useful ones to have, of course. Peter |
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The Pentax MZ-S prints a range of info. on the film rebate, Aperture and shutter speed are the most useful ones to have, of course. I would rather have it print what in the world it was that I was thinking when I selected such an inappropriate aperture and shutter speed. I find noting one's strategy - was I thinking of shadows, motion blur, the clouds, dof ... and what I did about it - is the most useful part of my notes as the little details don't apply to the next shot: I don't take the same picture under the same circumstances twice. Of course, if one is taking studio / product shots where the same setup will be used again and again then detailed notes are de rigueur. -- Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio Darkroom Automation: F-Stop Timers, Enlarging Meters http://www.nolindan.com/da/index.htm n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com |
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Nicholas O. Lindan wrote:
"Bandicoot" wrote The Pentax MZ-S prints a range of info. on the film rebate, Aperture and shutter speed are the most useful ones to have, of course. I would rather have it print what in the world it was that I was thinking when I selected such an inappropriate aperture and shutter speed. Little pocket notebooks or pocket mini-cassette recorders will take care of that. I find noting one's strategy - was I thinking of shadows, motion blur, the clouds, dof ... and what I did about it - is the most useful part of my notes as the little details don't apply to the next shot: I don't take the same picture under the same circumstances twice. Of course, if one is taking studio / product shots where the same setup will be used again and again then detailed notes are de rigueur. |
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"Nicholas O. Lindan" wrote in message
k.net... "Bandicoot" wrote The Pentax MZ-S prints a range of info. on the film rebate, Aperture and shutter speed are the most useful ones to have, of course. I would rather have it print what in the world it was that I was thinking when I selected such an inappropriate aperture and shutter speed. I find noting one's strategy - was I thinking of shadows, motion blur, the clouds, dof ... and what I did about it - is the most useful part of my notes as the little details don't apply to the next shot: I don't take the same picture under the same circumstances twice. Agreed, that is much more useful: I find the practice of many books and magazines of printing that a picture was shot with an Xmm lens at fY and 1/Z fraction of a second rather silly as out of context the information is meaningless. However, since many publishers seem to want it, having it on the film rebate lets me supply it - whether I personally value the data or not... Of course, if one is taking studio / product shots where the same setup will be used again and again then detailed notes are de rigueur. Yes, sometimes useful here. Actually one of the best uses is when getting familiar with a new lens: knowing the aperture each frame was shot at helps with speedy familiarisation on what the bokeh looks like, which apertures are sharpest, and so on. Peter |
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Bandicoot wrote:
"Nicholas O. Lindan" wrote in message k.net... "Bandicoot" wrote I would rather have it print what in the world it was that I was thinking when I selected such an inappropriate aperture and shutter speed. I find noting one's strategy - was I thinking of shadows, motion blur, the clouds, dof ... and what I did about it - is the most useful part of my notes as the little details don't apply to the next shot: I don't take the same picture under the same circumstances twice. Agreed, that is much more useful: I find the practice of many books and magazines of printing that a picture was shot with an Xmm lens at fY and 1/Z fraction of a second rather silly as out of context the information is meaningless. Ditto. And, is it just me, or is it a recent trend to attach tripod and head info? However, since many publishers seem to want it, having it on the film rebate lets me supply it - whether I personally value the data or not... Again, ditto. But it would be nice to know what the heck is on *their* minds when they make this requirement. I'm involved with a group that critiques each others' pictures in a round-robin sort of way via email. Nice setup. But I still feel very weird stating what tripod I was using. Or what filters. I suppose there is a certain artistic interest in that -- Maybe a certain filter made the sky more contrasty, or a using a graduated ND made it possible to capture a high-contrast scene. Too bad there isn't a way to pass *that* info back to the body to be recorded. There's a story I heard about Ansel Adams when he taught classes. Students routinely asked him the aperture/exposure settings of each of his images. He routinely answered according to some pre-memorized formula that all worked out to the same exposure. Eventually some clever student would catch him out and call him on it. And Adams would explain that it was completely irrelevant -- the aperture/exposure settings he used were completely dependent on the image he was trying to create, and the conditions under which he was trying to create it. :-) |
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Film cameras that store exposure information
"piggyme" wrote in message
.233... Hi all I am thinking of getting some decent 35mm gear. It would be nice to have a film camera that could save exposure info much like the exif from a digital camera. I understand the n90(s) can do this and the data can be downloaded to a computer.From memory other cameras can imprint the exposure info between frames and some (contax?) can imprint shooting data on the first two frames of the roll. I cant recall which which cameras have this ability apart from the n90s. If anyone does know can you please post your suggestions Thanks to everyone Nav The Canon 1v did the same thing as the N90s, and I'd be surprised to find that the Nikon F4 didn't. -- Skip Middleton www.shadowcatcherimagery.com www.pbase.com/skipm |
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