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Old October 2nd 04, 06:18 PM
John Emmons
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Default Didja ever notice...

We, the photographic community at large, have lost a few icons of late.
Avedon, Bresson, Newton, etc.

Has anyone else noticed the amount of bashing these poor souls have taken
after their death?

What's up with that? Are modern photographers so stupid as to deny the
influence these folks had or is it just jealousy and bitterness? I've never
seen another group take such vicarious thrills out of another person's
death as the group of people who post to the various photography newsgroups.

Love em or hate em, you've all been influenced by them and we outta be maybe
just a bit more respectful of the dead. We're losing some of the true
pioneers of the art we all claim to be participating in, we ought not lose
sight of that.

Rest in peace Mr. Avedon.

John Emmons


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Old October 2nd 04, 10:36 PM
Tom Phillips
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In article ,
"John Emmons" wrote:

We, the photographic community at large, have lost a few icons of late.
Avedon, Bresson, Newton, etc.

Has anyone else noticed the amount of bashing these poor souls have taken
after their death?


Typically by people of far less talent...


What's up with that? Are modern photographers so stupid as to deny the
influence these folks had or is it just jealousy and bitterness? I've never
seen another group take such vicarious thrills out of another person's
death as the group of people who post to the various photography newsgroups.

Love em or hate em, you've all been influenced by them and we outta be maybe
just a bit more respectful of the dead. We're losing some of the true
pioneers of the art we all claim to be participating in, we ought not lose
sight of that.

Rest in peace Mr. Avedon.

John Emmons


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Old October 3rd 04, 01:56 AM
Uranium Committee
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"John Emmons" wrote in message ...
We, the photographic community at large, have lost a few icons of late.
Avedon, Bresson, Newton, etc.

Has anyone else noticed the amount of bashing these poor souls have taken
after their death?


From where?

Besides, they're no heroes. Many of them were scumbags.


What's up with that? Are modern photographers so stupid as to deny the
influence these folks had or is it just jealousy and bitterness? I've never
seen another group take such vicarious thrills out of another person's
death as the group of people who post to the various photography newsgroups.

Love em or hate em, you've all been influenced by them and we outta be maybe
just a bit more respectful of the dead. We're losing some of the true
pioneers of the art we all claim to be participating in, we ought not lose
sight of that.

Rest in peace Mr. Avedon.

John Emmons

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Old October 3rd 04, 03:30 AM
Udie Lafing
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Ah hem!!! Pot, Kettle, Black.

I guess you have some God given right to sit in
judgment of all friggin creation.

Didn't you say you like George W. Bush?

I guess scumbags never look too close into the mirror.


In article ,
(Uranium Committee) wrote:

"John Emmons" wrote in message


Has anyone else noticed the amount of bashing these poor souls have taken
after their death?


From where?

Besides, they're no heroes. Many of them were scumbags.
.

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Old October 3rd 04, 04:45 AM
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I suspect it is the nature of the business. Art and critics co-exist in a
symbiotic relationship. On the other hand, it has always amazed me that when
Steve Grimes passed away, I only saw commemts indicating the very highest
praise and deepist respect for the man;s integrity. Given the tendency of the
internet to bring out the best and the worst in us, the only positive comments
were the ultimate tribute to the man. He must of been the closest one can ever
get to be a living angle.
DL
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Old October 3rd 04, 05:01 AM
Gregory Blank
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Not to make light of your observation but,...yes
he was probably 90 degrees straight up :-)


In article ,
(DMLStar) wrote:

I suspect it is the nature of the business. Art and critics co-exist in a
symbiotic relationship. On the other hand, it has always amazed me that when
Steve Grimes passed away, I only saw commemts indicating the very highest
praise and deepist respect for the man;s integrity. Given the tendency of the
internet to bring out the best and the worst in us, the only positive comments
were the ultimate tribute to the man. He must of been the closest one can ever
get to be a living angle.
DL


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Old October 3rd 04, 05:01 AM
Gregory Blank
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Not to make light of your observation but,...yes
he was probably 90 degrees straight up :-)


In article ,
(DMLStar) wrote:

I suspect it is the nature of the business. Art and critics co-exist in a
symbiotic relationship. On the other hand, it has always amazed me that when
Steve Grimes passed away, I only saw commemts indicating the very highest
praise and deepist respect for the man;s integrity. Given the tendency of the
internet to bring out the best and the worst in us, the only positive comments
were the ultimate tribute to the man. He must of been the closest one can ever
get to be a living angle.
DL


--
LF Website @
http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918
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Old October 4th 04, 08:48 AM
Jim Phelps
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"Uranium Committee" wrote in message
om...
"John Emmons" wrote in message
...
We, the photographic community at large, have lost a few icons of late.
Avedon, Bresson, Newton, etc.

Has anyone else noticed the amount of bashing these poor souls have taken
after their death?


From where?

Besides, they're no heroes. Many of them were scumbags.


No, hero's they are not. Scumbags? Why, because they photographed nudes?
That makes you a narrow minded (to use your word) ****wit. I'm no fan of
Playboy, Penthouse or the like, but I do appreciate the nude female form in
it's many senses.

Those words from a conservative, narrow minded, dictatorial, puritan. No
wonder your mother said you'd never amount to much. Your mind snap shut at
birth and has been repressed since.


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Old October 4th 04, 11:43 AM
Donald Qualls
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Jim Phelps wrote:

(an ill-advised reply to a troll)

"Never wrestle with a pig -- you both get dirty, and the pig enjoys it."

-- Robert A. Heinlein, in the voice of Lazarus Long

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Old October 4th 04, 03:30 PM
Uranium Committee
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"Jim Phelps" wrote in message ...
"Uranium Committee" wrote in message
om...
"John Emmons" wrote in message
...
We, the photographic community at large, have lost a few icons of late.
Avedon, Bresson, Newton, etc.

Has anyone else noticed the amount of bashing these poor souls have taken
after their death?


From where?

Besides, they're no heroes. Many of them were scumbags.


No, hero's they are not. Scumbags? Why, because they photographed nudes?


No, not at all. They were scumbags for other reasons...as are most pro
photographers....Have you ever seen that show that follows a bunch of
paparazzi around as they chase celbrities all day? What a bunch of
scumbags...they're nothing but whores...

That makes you a narrow minded (to use your word) ****wit.


How? You attack a position which I do not hold.

I'm no fan of
Playboy, Penthouse or the like,


....but I am.

but I do appreciate the nude female form in
it's many senses.


So do I.


Those words from a conservative, narrow minded, dictatorial, puritan.


I'm no puritan.

No
wonder your mother said you'd never amount to much. Your mind snap shut at
birth and has been repressed since.

 




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