Stabilizer in Tetinal C-41 1 ltr. Press Kit

I know that this question has been posted previously, however I am not
sure that anyone has offered a fix. When I use the Tetinal C-41 press
kit I get a nasty white residue on my negatives upon drying after I
use the stabilizer. Has anyone out there who has encountered similar
problems found a satisfactory way to resolve this?

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I know that this question has been posted previously, however I am not
sure that anyone has offered a fix. When I use the Tetinal C-41 press
kit I get a nasty white residue on my negatives upon drying after I
use the stabilizer. Has anyone out there who has encountered similar
problems found a satisfactory way to resolve this?

Have you tried mixing the stabilizer with distilled water? Are you
following the directions to the letter otherwise?
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On Feb 24, 8:17 am, Gregory Blank wrote:
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" wrote:
I know that this question has been posted previously, however I am not
sure that anyone has offered a fix. When I use the Tetinal C-41 press
kit I get a nasty white residue on my negatives upon drying after I
use the stabilizer. Has anyone out there who has encountered similar
problems found a satisfactory way to resolve this?

Have you tried mixing the stabilizer with distilled water? Are you
following the directions to the letter otherwise?
--
George W. Bush is the President Quayle we never had.

Yes to both of your questions Greg.

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On Feb 24, 8:17 am, Gregory Blank wrote:
In article . com,

" wrote:
I know that this question has been posted previously, however I am not
sure that anyone has offered a fix. When I use the Tetinal C-41 press
kit I get a nasty white residue on my negatives upon drying after I
use the stabilizer. Has anyone out there who has encountered similar
problems found a satisfactory way to resolve this?

Have you tried mixing the stabilizer with distilled water? Are you
following the directions to the letter otherwise?
--
George W. Bush is the President Quayle we never had.

Yes to both of your questions Greg.

I am going to see if I can help,...I'll get back to you if I can.
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On Feb 24, 3:29 pm, Gregory Blank wrote:
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" wrote:
On Feb 24, 8:17 am, Gregory Blank wrote:
In article . com,

" wrote:
I know that this question has been posted previously, however I am not
sure that anyone has offered a fix. When I use the Tetinal C-41 press
kit I get a nasty white residue on my negatives upon drying after I
use the stabilizer. Has anyone out there who has encountered similar
problems found a satisfactory way to resolve this?

Have you tried mixing the stabilizer with distilled water? Are you
following the directions to the letter otherwise?
--
George W. Bush is the President Quayle we never had.

Yes to both of your questions Greg.

I am going to see if I can help,...I'll get back to you if I can.
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Hey thanks Greg,

I thought of following the stabilizer bath with a rinse in photoflo
but I am concerned about whether this would have an effect on the
stability of the dyes in the film.

Mark

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Hey thanks Greg,

I thought of following the stabilizer bath with a rinse in photoflo
but I am concerned about whether this would have an effect on the
stability of the dyes in the film.

Mark

I doubt it, stabilizer is typically sort of like formalin and photo flo
more or less detergent. Both are used highly dilute.
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" writes:

I thought of following the stabilizer bath with a rinse in photoflo
but I am concerned about whether this would have an effect on the
stability of the dyes in the film.

I've seen warnings from a retired Kodak scientist to not rinse color film
after it's been through the stabilizer (even after it's dried); apparently
the stabilizer takes some time to act fully, and rinsing the film will
wash away the trace amounts that remain behind after the film dries. I'd
imagine that Photo Flo would count as a rinse in this context, so I
wouldn't do it.

For your main problem, though, I have two comments:

1) Most modern C-41 films don't require the old-style stabilizer; instead,
they require a new "final rinse" product. Details of what works with
what seem thin on the ground, but as far as I can tell, stabilizer is
good to use with old or new films but final rinse should only be used
with new films. OTOH, stabilizer contains formaldehyde, so you should
exercise more care in its use.

2) Unless you've got a reason to favor the stabilizer provided by Tetenal,
you might want to consider picking up some Kodak or Fuji stabilizer (or
final rinse if you're using exclusively newer Kodak and Fuji films) to
use instead of the Tetenal product. Adorama (http://www.adorama.com)
has it and will ship it. (I'm not sure about shipping to Alaska,
though; if your e-mail address is any indication that could be an
issue.) You could also check with some local 1-hour labs and see if
they'll add some stabilizer to their next order of chemicals for you.

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" wrote:

Hey thanks Greg,

I thought of following the stabilizer bath with a rinse in photoflo
but I am concerned about whether this would have an effect on the
stability of the dyes in the film.

Mark

I doubt it, stabilizer is typically sort of like formalin and photo flo
more or less detergent. Both are used highly dilute.
--

Phoflo won't effect the dyes directly, but it would dilute or wash out the
residual stabilizer, which would diminish or remove its effect. So,
post-stabilizer rinse, with or w/o photflo, is a bad idea.

Most stabilizers, particularly formalin based ones, dry to a white residue
when in stock or concentrated form. Just my guess, but could you be using
your stabilizer in an excessive concentration by accident?

On Feb 25, 9:27 am, "Randy Stewart" wrote:
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In article .com,
" wrote:

Hey thanks Greg,

I thought of following the stabilizer bath with a rinse in photoflo
but I am concerned about whether this would have an effect on the
stability of the dyes in the film.

Mark

I doubt it, stabilizer is typically sort of like formalin and photo flo
more or less detergent. Both are used highly dilute.
--

Phoflo won't effect the dyes directly, but it would dilute or wash out the
residual stabilizer, which would diminish or remove its effect. So,
post-stabilizer rinse, with or w/o photflo, is a bad idea.

Most stabilizers, particularly formalin based ones, dry to a white residue
when in stock or concentrated form. Just my guess, but could you be using
your stabilizer in an excessive concentration by accident?

Randy,

Thanks for your thoughts on this matter. The Tetinal C-41 press kit
supplys all of its chemistry in solid form. I really have been
wondering about the "stabilizer" that they provide, as I have not
heard of formaldehyde in a solid form. In reviewing my info sheet from
Tetinal, I note that their "stabilizer" contains "aldehyde compound."
I am not sure what that is, but I certainly sounds like a compound
similar to formaldehyde. All of that said, it is pretty difficult to
use at excessive concentration of stabilizer as the powdered chemistry
is mixed to the working strength.

So far, I think that Gregs suggestion of seeing whether a local
photolab can order some stabilizer for me in their next order may be
my best option. In the past I have never had this difficulty when I
have mixed stabilizer from concentrate liquid chemistry.

Mark

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Phoflo won't effect the dyes directly, but it would dilute or wash out the
residual stabilizer, which would diminish or remove its effect. So,
post-stabilizer rinse, with or w/o photflo, is a bad idea.

What do you think of adding PF to the stabilizer as the one last step....
interactions?
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