PING Ron C: Some of my Other Stuff

On 10/15/2017 9:13 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 10/15/2017 8:15 PM, Ron C wrote:
On 10/14/2017 3:13 AM, Savageduck wrote:

Just to demonstrate that I dabble in some of the odd, expressive, and
experimental stuff from time-to-time, here are a few of my
manipulations.
Naturally I don’t expect too much, as that taste thing comes into
play, and
I know that there are folks in this NG who are not fans of HDR. I
will tell
you that none of these ever won any sort of competition.

This is an HDR which has a similar look to your Summer shot.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xdgb05zq152q8r8/DNC2792_AHDR2018e.jpg

This is a pushy HDR.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sg1p7g0my5glcx2/DNC_7780_AHDR2018e.jpg

...and this is sort of along the lines of your Kodalith.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7wu4hwjig4ybgx4/DNC_1193-E1.jpg


Moving along under the heading of experimental dabbling...
Someone in an old thread brought up reticulation. I found a
reticulation filter in Photoshop and did a bit of playing around.

I never experimented with film reticulation so have no idea how
well this emulates the actual wet processing effect.

Is emulation of wet processing important, or is the issue whether, in
your opinion, it improves the image.



I only added the wet processing comment because I remember the
flap about grain emulation, thus thought adding the caveat prudent.
[YMMV]
For me this was totally a what-if experiment to be filed away in my
bag of tricks. I don't have a use for it at the moment.

Back in the olden days I was quite taken by extreme grain almost
to the point of abstract pointallization.

Enough babble for now.
--
==
Later...
Ron C
--

On 10/15/2017 10:06 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Oct 15, 2017, PeterN wrote
(in article ):

On 10/15/2017 8:15 PM, Ron C wrote:
On 10/14/2017 3:13 AM, Savageduck wrote:

Just to demonstrate that I dabble in some of the odd, expressive, and
experimental stuff from time-to-time, here are a few of my manipulations.
Naturally I don’t expect too much, as that taste thing comes into
play, and
I know that there are folks in this NG who are not fans of HDR. I will
tell
you that none of these ever won any sort of competition.

This is an HDR which has a similar look to your Summer shot.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xdgb05zq152q8r8/DNC2792_AHDR2018e.jpg

This is a pushy HDR.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sg1p7g0my5glcx2/DNC_7780_AHDR2018e.jpg

...and this is sort of along the lines of your Kodalith.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7wu4hwjig4ybgx4/DNC_1193-E1.jpg

Moving along under the heading of experimental dabbling...
Someone in an old thread brought up reticulation. I found a
reticulation filter in Photoshop and did a bit of playing around.

I never experimented with film reticulation so have no idea how
well this emulates the actual wet processing effect.

For fun, here are a few variations:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/df1w6suuju...%5BRet%20%231%
5D.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6elpjru92z...%5BRet%20%232%
5D.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mhnt2roxtf...%5BRet%20%233%
5D.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zarlb31x76...%5BRet%20%234%
5D.jpg
You may need to zoom in a bit on the 3rd one to see the effect.

Today I had a bad shooting day. I was shooting surfers, but i made some
basic mistakes, and I really don't like the images. The ISO was set too
high for the shooting, and there was too much noise. In addition the
waves were not very high.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/88qlfaor550xq22/20171015_Surfing_6942.jpg?dl=0

Yup! Why ISO 5000, when ISO 400 would have been more than adequate?

I know, I know.
It is fine when I use 5,000 for indoor zoo shots, and low light shots.
But for outdoor telephoto work @ 400, it is too much.


After I looked at the images, I consoled myself by doing a flower
impression. I know some won't like it, but I do.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hhnanzhlhaww3za/20170205_Flowers_0056.jpg?dl=0

You are quite correct. I don’t particularly like it, but I guess it is that
taste thing again.

The biggest problem I have with it is, it was shot back in February, not
today, and you have shared it with us before on 10/12/2017.





--
PeterN

On 10/15/2017 10:23 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 10/15/2017 10:06 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Oct 15, 2017, PeterN wrote
(in article ):

On 10/15/2017 8:15 PM, Ron C wrote:
On 10/14/2017 3:13 AM, Savageduck wrote:

Just to demonstrate that I dabble in some of the odd, expressive, and
experimental stuff from time-to-time, here are a few of my
manipulations.
Naturally I don’t expect too much, as that taste thing comes into
play, and
I know that there are folks in this NG who are not fans of HDR. I will
tell
you that none of these ever won any sort of competition.

This is an HDR which has a similar look to your Summer shot.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xdgb05zq152q8r8/DNC2792_AHDR2018e.jpg

This is a pushy HDR.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sg1p7g0my5glcx2/DNC_7780_AHDR2018e.jpg

...and this is sort of along the lines of your Kodalith.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7wu4hwjig4ybgx4/DNC_1193-E1.jpg

Moving along under the heading of experimental dabbling...
Someone in an old thread brought up reticulation. I found a
reticulation filter in Photoshop and did a bit of playing around.

I never experimented with film reticulation so have no idea how
well this emulates the actual wet processing effect.

For fun, here are a few variations:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/df1w6suuju...%5BRet%20%231%

5D.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6elpjru92z...%5BRet%20%232%

5D.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mhnt2roxtf...%5BRet%20%233%

5D.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zarlb31x76...%5BRet%20%234%

5D.jpg
You may need to zoom in a bit on the 3rd one to see the effect.

Today I had a bad shooting day. I was shooting surfers, but i made some
basic mistakes, and I really don't like the images. The ISO was set too
high for the shooting, and there was too much noise. In addition the
waves were not very high.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/88qlfaor550xq22/20171015_Surfing_6942.jpg?dl=0


Yup! Why ISO 5000, when ISO 400 would have been more than adequate?

After I looked at the images, I consoled myself by doing a flower
impression. I know some won't like it, but I do.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hhnanzhlhaww3za/20170205_Flowers_0056.jpg?dl=0


You are quite correct. I don’t particularly like it, but I guess it is
that
taste thing again.

The biggest problem I have with it is, it was shot back in February, not
today, and you have shared it with us before on 10/12/2017.




If you look closely, it has been considerably changed, although the
concept is similar.

And I just made some additional changes. It is one of those works, that
may never be finished.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/56t231thytnwafd/20170205_Flowers_0056%202.jpg?dl=0

--
PeterN

On Oct 15, 2017, PeterN wrote
(in article ):

On 10/15/2017 10:06 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Oct 15, 2017, PeterN wrote
(in article ):

On 10/15/2017 8:15 PM, Ron C wrote:
On 10/14/2017 3:13 AM, Savageduck wrote:

Just to demonstrate that I dabble in some of the odd, expressive, and
experimental stuff from time-to-time, here are a few of my manipulations.
Naturally I don’t expect too much, as that taste thing comes into
play, and
I know that there are folks in this NG who are not fans of HDR. I will
tell
you that none of these ever won any sort of competition.

This is an HDR which has a similar look to your Summer shot.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xdgb05zq152q8r8/DNC2792_AHDR2018e.jpg

This is a pushy HDR.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sg1p7g0my5glcx2/DNC_7780_AHDR2018e.jpg

...and this is sort of along the lines of your Kodalith.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7wu4hwjig4ybgx4/DNC_1193-E1.jpg

Moving along under the heading of experimental dabbling...
Someone in an old thread brought up reticulation. I found a
reticulation filter in Photoshop and did a bit of playing around.

I never experimented with film reticulation so have no idea how
well this emulates the actual wet processing effect.

For fun, here are a few variations:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/df1w6suujux1z5c/IMG_1987-New%20House%5BRet%20%231%5D.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6elpjru92z9gses/IMG_1987-New%20House%5BRet%20%232%5D.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mhnt2roxtfp95lm/IMG_1987-New%20House%5BRet%20%233%5D.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zarlb31x76x9sqt/IMG_1987-New%20House%5BRet%20%234%5D.jpg:
You may need to zoom in a bit on the 3rd one to see the effect.

Today I had a bad shooting day. I was shooting surfers, but i made some
basic mistakes, and I really don't like the images. The ISO was set too
high for the shooting, and there was too much noise. In addition the
waves were not very high.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/88qlfaor550xq22/20171015_Surfing_6942.jpg?dl=0

Yup! Why ISO 5000, when ISO 400 would have been more than adequate?

I know, I know. It is fine when I use 5,000 for indoor zoo shots, and low light shots.
But for outdoor telephoto work @ 400, it is too much.

They don’t do too much indoor surfing these days. So ISO 5000 is too much.
Now surfing at dusk, or predawn light would be entirely different.

If you think about it, somewhere on that D500 is a gizmo which will let you
adjust the ISO.
This might be an appropriate time to suggest RTFM.

--

Regards,
Savageduck

On Oct 15, 2017, PeterN wrote
(in article ):

On 10/15/2017 10:23 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 10/15/2017 10:06 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Oct 15, 2017, PeterN wrote
(in article ):

On 10/15/2017 8:15 PM, Ron C wrote:
On 10/14/2017 3:13 AM, Savageduck wrote:

Just to demonstrate that I dabble in some of the odd, expressive, and
experimental stuff from time-to-time, here are a few of my
manipulations.
Naturally I don’t expect too much, as that taste thing comes into
play, and
I know that there are folks in this NG who are not fans of HDR. I will
tell
you that none of these ever won any sort of competition.

This is an HDR which has a similar look to your Summer shot.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xdgb05zq152q8r8/DNC2792_AHDR2018e.jpg

This is a pushy HDR.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sg1p7g0my5glcx2/DNC_7780_AHDR2018e.jpg

...and this is sort of along the lines of your Kodalith.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7wu4hwjig4ybgx4/DNC_1193-E1.jpg

Moving along under the heading of experimental dabbling...
Someone in an old thread brought up reticulation. I found a
reticulation filter in Photoshop and did a bit of playing around.

I never experimented with film reticulation so have no idea how
well this emulates the actual wet processing effect.

For fun, here are a few variations:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/df1w6suuju...use%5BRet%20%2
31%

5D.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6elpjru92z...use%5BRet%20%2
32%

5D.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mhnt2roxtf...use%5BRet%20%2
33%

5D.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zarlb31x76...use%5BRet%20%2
34%

5D.jpg
You may need to zoom in a bit on the 3rd one to see the effect.

Today I had a bad shooting day. I was shooting surfers, but i made some
basic mistakes, and I really don't like the images. The ISO was set too
high for the shooting, and there was too much noise. In addition the
waves were not very high.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/88qlfaor550xq22/20171015_Surfing_6942.jpg?dl=0

Yup! Why ISO 5000, when ISO 400 would have been more than adequate?

After I looked at the images, I consoled myself by doing a flower
impression. I know some won't like it, but I do.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hhnanzhlhaww3za/20170205_Flowers_0056.jpg?dl=0

You are quite correct. I don’t particularly like it, but I guess it is
that
taste thing again.

The biggest problem I have with it is, it was shot back in February, not
today, and you have shared it with us before on 10/12/2017.



If you look closely, it has been considerably changed, although the
concept is similar.
And I just made some additional changes. It is one of those works, that
may never be finished.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/56t231thytnwafd/20170205_Flowers_0056%202.jpg?dl=0

....er, OK.

It is a long night, and I suppose it is good for you to have something you
can occupy yourself with.

--

Regards,
Savageduck

On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 20:15:29 -0400, Ron C wrote:

On 10/14/2017 3:13 AM, Savageduck wrote:

Just to demonstrate that I dabble in some of the odd, expressive, and
experimental stuff from time-to-time, here are a few of my manipulations.
Naturally I don’t expect too much, as that taste thing comes into play, and
I know that there are folks in this NG who are not fans of HDR. I will tell
you that none of these ever won any sort of competition.

This is an HDR which has a similar look to your Summer shot.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xdgb05zq152q8r8/DNC2792_AHDR2018e.jpg

This is a pushy HDR.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sg1p7g0my5glcx2/DNC_7780_AHDR2018e.jpg

...and this is sort of along the lines of your Kodalith.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7wu4hwjig4ybgx4/DNC_1193-E1.jpg


Moving along under the heading of experimental dabbling...
Someone in an old thread brought up reticulation. I found a
reticulation filter in Photoshop and did a bit of playing around.

I never experimented with film reticulation so have no idea how
well this emulates the actual wet processing effect.

For fun, here are a few variations:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/df1w6suuju...%20%231%5D.jpg


https://www.dropbox.com/s/6elpjru92z...%20%232%5D.jpg


https://www.dropbox.com/s/mhnt2roxtf...%20%233%5D.jpg


https://www.dropbox.com/s/zarlb31x76...%20%234%5D.jpg

~
You may need to zoom in a bit on the 3rd one to see the effect.

Nope. Clear as - mud.

Not for me I am afraid..

I like the cat though. :-)


--
==
Later...
Ron C
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

In article ,
Eric Stevens wrote:

On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 20:15:29 -0400, Ron C wrote:

On 10/14/2017 3:13 AM, Savageduck wrote:

Just to demonstrate that I dabble in some of the odd, expressive, and
experimental stuff from time-to-time, here are a few of my manipulations.
Naturally I don’t expect too much, as that taste thing comes into play,
and
I know that there are folks in this NG who are not fans of HDR. I will
tell
you that none of these ever won any sort of competition.

This is an HDR which has a similar look to your Summer shot.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xdgb05zq152q8r8/DNC2792_AHDR2018e.jpg

This is a pushy HDR.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sg1p7g0my5glcx2/DNC_7780_AHDR2018e.jpg

...and this is sort of along the lines of your Kodalith.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7wu4hwjig4ybgx4/DNC_1193-E1.jpg


Moving along under the heading of experimental dabbling...
Someone in an old thread brought up reticulation. I found a
reticulation filter in Photoshop and did a bit of playing around.

I never experimented with film reticulation so have no idea how
well this emulates the actual wet processing effect.

For fun, here are a few variations:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/df1w6suuju...5BRet%20%231%5
D.jpg


https://www.dropbox.com/s/6elpjru92z...5BRet%20%232%5
D.jpg


https://www.dropbox.com/s/mhnt2roxtf...5BRet%20%233%5
D.jpg


https://www.dropbox.com/s/zarlb31x76...5BRet%20%234%5
D.jpg

~
You may need to zoom in a bit on the 3rd one to see the effect.

Nope. Clear as - mud.

Not for me I am afraid..

I like the cat though. :-)

For those that don't know what it is:

https://www.ephotozine.com/article/c...n-film-process
ing-4639
--
teleportation kills

On 10/15/2017 09:34 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 10/15/2017 8:15 PM, Ron C wrote:
On 10/14/2017 3:13 AM, Savageduck wrote:

Just to demonstrate that I dabble in some of the odd, expressive, and
experimental stuff from time-to-time, here are a few of my
manipulations.
Naturally I don’t expect too much, as that taste thing comes into
play, and
I know that there are folks in this NG who are not fans of HDR. I
will tell
you that none of these ever won any sort of competition.

This is an HDR which has a similar look to your Summer shot.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xdgb05zq152q8r8/DNC2792_AHDR2018e.jpg

This is a pushy HDR.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sg1p7g0my5glcx2/DNC_7780_AHDR2018e.jpg

...and this is sort of along the lines of your Kodalith.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7wu4hwjig4ybgx4/DNC_1193-E1.jpg


Moving along under the heading of experimental dabbling...
Someone in an old thread brought up reticulation. I found a
reticulation filter in Photoshop and did a bit of playing around.

I never experimented with film reticulation so have no idea how
well this emulates the actual wet processing effect.

IMHO, these do emulate film reticulation. In my early days, I was not so
careful with temperature control, the main cause of reticulation. My
high school photography teacher said that reticulation looks like little
worms, and that's how you could tell it from grain.


For fun, here are a few variations:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/df1w6suuju...%20%231%5D.jpg
*

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6elpjru92z...%20%232%5D.jpg
*

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mhnt2roxtf...%20%233%5D.jpg
*

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zarlb31x76...%20%234%5D.jpg
*
~
You may need to zoom in a bit on the 3rd one to see the effect.


Today I had a bad shooting day. I was shooting surfers, but i made some
basic mistakes, and I really don't like the images. The ISO was set too
high for the shooting, and there was too much noise. In addition the
waves were not very high.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/88qlfaor550xq22/20171015_Surfing_6942.jpg?dl=0

Other than being a stop or two too dark, it's not a bad image. The
composition is right, and it conveys a feeling of motion.

Lighten up- both on the photo and yourself!


After I looked at the images, I consoled myself by doing a flower
impression. I know some won't like it, but I do.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/hhnanzhlhaww3za/20170205_Flowers_0056.jpg?dl=0



It's pretty. It conveys motion, the composition is good, and it's
colorful. But much like Pollock #2, I don't get it!

--
Ken Hart

On 10/15/2017 10:43 PM, Savageduck wrote:


snip

If you think about it, somewhere on that D500 is a gizmo which will let you
adjust the ISO.
This might be an appropriate time to suggest RTFM.


No **** Dick Tracy. So does every other DSLR I own. I said I messed up.

--
PeterN

On Oct 16, 2017, PeterN wrote
(in article ):

On 10/15/2017 10:43 PM, Savageduck wrote:

snip

If you think about it, somewhere on that D500 is a gizmo which will let you
adjust the ISO.
This might be an appropriate time to suggest RTFM.

No **** Dick Tracy. So does every other DSLR I own. I said I messed up.

At this point my suggestion is for you to explore Auto-ISO.

You would be surprised at how well it works, and how often it will be right
when, for whatever your reason, you have been, or will be wrong.

I have three Auto-ISO presets which I use more than often than a fixed ISO.
Naturally, that does not mean that I use them exclusively. There is a time
and place for everything, and it is easy enough to override to use exposure
settings you think you need. Consider, the last time you actually used an
incident light meter, rather just guessing.

Auto-ISO 1:
Default = ISO 200
Max = ISO 1600
Min Speed = 1/100

Auto-ISO 2:
Default = ISO 200
Max = ISO 3200
Min Speed = 1/100

Auto-ISO 3:
Default = ISO 200
Max = ISO 6400
Min Speed = Auto

--

Regards,
Savageduck