Stupid computer reviews

On 09/15/2017 12:45 AM, RichA wrote:
This showed up on a couple camera sites, as the HP could be used for still and video work on a large scale.
"This computer can take an insane 3Tb of memory!" "Insane" is right. It would cost about $75,000 on a $2500 (HP) computer box. It's not going to happen. It's like saying, "This Toyota Camry's engine can be built-up to put out 700hp!" But FEW if any will ever do that kind of modification.




I still collect vintage computers and have a Zenith Data Systems 286 in
my collection. It came with 512k of memory consisting of discrete memory
chips soldered to the mobo.

I had an ISA memory expansion board designed for a 386 that I was able
to get working in the machine and expanded the memory to 16megs...that's
the maximum amount a 286 can address. I did it just for the sake of
doing it.

That said, would it have been possible to put 16 megs of memory in a 286
at the time it was built, probably only Bill Gates could have afforded it!

On Sep 16, 2017, philo wrote
(in article ):

On 09/15/2017 12:45 AM, RichA wrote:
This showed up on a couple camera sites, as the HP could be used for still and video work on a large scale.
"This computer can take an insane 3Tb of memory!" "Insane" is right. It would cost about $75,000 on a $2500 (HP) computer box. It's not going to happen. It's like saying, "This Toyota Camry's engine can be built-up to put out 700hp!" But FEW if any will ever do that kind of modification.

I still collect vintage computers and have a Zenith Data Systems 286 in
my collection. It came with 512k of memory consisting of discrete memory
chips soldered to the mobo.

Then you should love the NCR Century on which, I learned FORTRAN.
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/30/63/13/306313a8c988f372e0a40969dc00c560--computer.jpg


I had an ISA memory expansion board designed for a 386 that I was able
to get working in the machine and expanded the memory to 16megs...that's
the maximum amount a 286 can address. I did it just for the sake of
doing it.

That said, would it have been possible to put 16 megs of memory in a 286
at the time it was built, probably only Bill Gates could have afforded it!

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Regards,
Savageduck

In article , philo
wrote:


I had an ISA memory expansion board designed for a 386 that I was able
to get working in the machine and expanded the memory to 16megs...that's
the maximum amount a 286 can address. I did it just for the sake of
doing it.

That said, would it have been possible to put 16 megs of memory in a 286
at the time it was built, probably only Bill Gates could have afforded it!

it might have been possible, but it wasn't particularly useful because
of segmented memory, a problem inherent to x86 back then.

macs had a linear address space from the start, which was one of many
reasons why graphics apps were on the mac first.

In article , Paul Carmichael
wrote:

I had an ISA memory expansion board designed for a 386 that I was able
to get working in the machine and expanded the memory to 16megs...that's
the maximum amount a 286 can address. I did it just for the sake of
doing it.

That said, would it have been possible to put 16 megs of memory in a 286
at the time it was built, probably only Bill Gates could have afforded it!

it might have been possible, but it wasn't particularly useful because
of segmented memory, a problem inherent to x86 back then.

I was programming back then, and XMS was useful. Not very fast though. A lot
faster than MFM hard drives, so better than "virtual memory".

it was still a royal pain in the ass and comparing it to vm is silly.

x86 didn't get a linear address space until much later.

In article ,
nospam wrote:

In article , Paul Carmichael
wrote:

I had an ISA memory expansion board designed for a 386 that I was able
to get working in the machine and expanded the memory to 16megs...that's
the maximum amount a 286 can address. I did it just for the sake of
doing it.

That said, would it have been possible to put 16 megs of memory in a 286
at the time it was built, probably only Bill Gates could have afforded
it!

it might have been possible, but it wasn't particularly useful because
of segmented memory, a problem inherent to x86 back then.

I was programming back then, and XMS was useful. Not very fast though. A
lot
faster than MFM hard drives, so better than "virtual memory".

it was still a royal pain in the ass and comparing it to vm is silly.

x86 didn't get a linear address space until much later.

Bill Gates:

"No one will ever need more than 637Kb of memory for a personal
computer."

http://www.quote-wise.com/quotes/bil...er-need-more-t
han-637kb-of-memo
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teleportation kills

In article , android
wrote:

Bill Gates:

"No one will ever need more than 637Kb of memory for a personal
computer."

https://www.pcworld.com/article/1559...ions.html?page
=2
"Two years from now, spam will be solved."
Bill Gates, founder of Microsoft, 2004

and this bit of amazing stupidity:
"Almost all of the many predictions now being made about 1996 hinge
on the Internet's continuing exponential growth. But I predict the
Internet will soon go spectacularly supernova and in 1996
catastrophically collapse."
Robert Metcalfe, founder of 3Com, 1995

and from page 1 of that link,
https://www.pcworld.com/article/155984/worst_tech_predictions.html
"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home."
Ken Olsen, founder of Digital Equipment Corporation, 1977

"Television won't be able to hold on to any market it captures after
the first six months. People will soon get tired of staring at a
plywood box every night."
Darryl Zanuck, executive at 20th Century Fox, 1946

On 09/16/2017 09:30 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On Sep 16, 2017, philo wrote
(in article ):

On 09/15/2017 12:45 AM, RichA wrote:
This showed up on a couple camera sites, as the HP could be used for still and video work on a large scale.
"This computer can take an insane 3Tb of memory!" "Insane" is right. It would cost about $75,000 on a $2500 (HP) computer box. It's not going to happen. It's like saying, "This Toyota Camry's engine can be built-up to put out 700hp!" But FEW if any will ever do that kind of modification.

I still collect vintage computers and have a Zenith Data Systems 286 in
my collection. It came with 512k of memory consisting of discrete memory
chips soldered to the mobo.

Then you should love the NCR Century on which, I learned FORTRAN.
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/30/63/13/306313a8c988f372e0a40969dc00c560--computer.jpg


I had an ISA memory expansion board designed for a 386 that I was able
to get working in the machine and expanded the memory to 16megs...that's
the maximum amount a 286 can address. I did it just for the sake of
doing it.

That said, would it have been possible to put 16 megs of memory in a 286
at the time it was built, probably only Bill Gates could have afforded it!




Neat.

I took my first FORTRAN IV class in 1968.

MSOE had an IBM-360 as best I recall.


Man how I hated to use punch cards!

On 09/16/2017 12:45 PM, Paul Carmichael wrote:
El 16/09/17 a las 17:31, nospam escribió:
In article , philo
wrote:


I had an ISA memory expansion board designed for a 386 that I was able
to get working in the machine and expanded the memory to 16megs...that's
the maximum amount a 286 can address. I did it just for the sake of
doing it.

That said, would it have been possible to put 16 megs of memory in a 286
at the time it was built, probably only Bill Gates could have
afforded it!

it might have been possible, but it wasn't particularly useful because
of segmented memory, a problem inherent to x86 back then.

I was programming back then, and XMS was useful. Not very fast though. A
lot faster than MFM hard drives, so better than "virtual memory".




The machine came with a 20Meg MFM drive and I even added a 2nd.


BTW: Adding all that RAM really didn't do anything but it was a fun
excercise

On Sat, 16 Sep 2017 15:55:20 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , android
wrote:

Bill Gates:

"No one will ever need more than 637Kb of memory for a personal
computer."

https://www.pcworld.com/article/1559...ions.html?page
=2
"Two years from now, spam will be solved."
Bill Gates, founder of Microsoft, 2004

and this bit of amazing stupidity:
"Almost all of the many predictions now being made about 1996 hinge
on the Internet's continuing exponential growth. But I predict the
Internet will soon go spectacularly supernova and in 1996
catastrophically collapse."
Robert Metcalfe, founder of 3Com, 1995

and from page 1 of that link,
https://www.pcworld.com/article/155984/worst_tech_predictions.html
"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home."
Ken Olsen, founder of Digital Equipment Corporation, 1977

"Television won't be able to hold on to any market it captures after
the first six months. People will soon get tired of staring at a
plywood box every night."
Darryl Zanuck, executive at 20th Century Fox, 1946


"I think there is a world market for maybe five computers."
Thomas Watson, president of IBM, 1943
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Sep 16, 2017, Eric Stevens wrote
(in ):

On Sat, 16 Sep 2017 15:55:20 -0400,
wrote:

In , android
wrote:

Bill Gates:

"No one will ever need more than 637Kb of memory for a personal
computer."

https://www.pcworld.com/article/1559...ions.html?page
=2
"Two years from now, spam will be solved."
Bill Gates, founder of Microsoft, 2004

and this bit of amazing stupidity:
"Almost all of the many predictions now being made about 1996 hinge
on the Internet's continuing exponential growth. But I predict the
Internet will soon go spectacularly supernova and in 1996
catastrophically collapse."
Robert Metcalfe, founder of 3Com, 1995

and from page 1 of that link,
https://www.pcworld.com/article/155984/worst_tech_predictions.html
"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home."
Ken Olsen, founder of Digital Equipment Corporation, 1977

"Television won't be able to hold on to any market it captures after
the first six months. People will soon get tired of staring at a
plywood box every night."
Darryl Zanuck, executive at 20th Century Fox, 1946

"I think there is a world market for maybe five computers."
Thomas Watson, president of IBM, 1943

I have never seen so many indians in all my life.
George A. Custer, 1876.

You, and your damn theater tickets.
Abraham Lincoln to Mary Todd Lincoln, 1865.

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Regards,
Savageduck