On1 update, graphics cards, Win 10...

I finally went to get a new graphics card. I carefully selected the
Nvidia GT 1030 by determining that it was the *only* card on the shelf
at Best Buy. It's a 2 GB card.

The crashing problem I had with On1 is now cured. Unfortunately,
nothing else is. It is still very slow - 3-5 seconds to move from one
photo to the next in filmstrip. To be fair, the latency I have with
both LR & PS is barely improved, too. So this could be a warning
before you buy a new card - it won't necessarily help. Admittedly, I
am seriously impatient, so any latency at all drives me up the wall.
What I see could be what everyone else with a PC sees.

To make things so much worse, even though this is probably unusual, my
PC once again had it's boot files wiped out when I installed the card,
just like what happened with that Win 10 update a few months ago, and
I spent several hours with what should have been a 5 minute card
install. It appears that "secure boot", which is enabled in most
Windows PC's these days, might be the issue. I disabled it, so we'll
see.

Anyway, On1 sucks, LR sucks, PS sucks, Nvidia sucks, PC's suck,
technology sucks. I'm starting to understand Ted Kaczyinski.

In article , Bill W
wrote:

I finally went to get a new graphics card. I carefully selected the
Nvidia GT 1030 by determining that it was the *only* card on the shelf
at Best Buy. It's a 2 GB card.

The crashing problem I had with On1 is now cured. Unfortunately,
nothing else is. It is still very slow - 3-5 seconds to move from one
photo to the next in filmstrip. To be fair, the latency I have with
both LR & PS is barely improved, too. So this could be a warning
before you buy a new card - it won't necessarily help. Admittedly, I
am seriously impatient, so any latency at all drives me up the wall.
What I see could be what everyone else with a PC sees.

To make things so much worse, even though this is probably unusual, my
PC once again had it's boot files wiped out when I installed the card,
just like what happened with that Win 10 update a few months ago, and
I spent several hours with what should have been a 5 minute card
install. It appears that "secure boot", which is enabled in most
Windows PC's these days, might be the issue. I disabled it, so we'll
see.

Anyway, On1 sucks, LR sucks, PS sucks, Nvidia sucks, PC's suck,
technology sucks. I'm starting to understand Ted Kaczyinski.

just windows. everything else works great

In article ,
Bill W wrote:

It appears that "secure boot", which is enabled in most
Windows PC's these days, might be the issue.

Windows has always been about security... The question is security of
whom!
--
teleportation kills

In article ,
nospam wrote:

In article , Bill W
wrote:

I finally went to get a new graphics card. I carefully selected the
Nvidia GT 1030 by determining that it was the *only* card on the shelf
at Best Buy. It's a 2 GB card.

The crashing problem I had with On1 is now cured. Unfortunately,
nothing else is. It is still very slow - 3-5 seconds to move from one
photo to the next in filmstrip. To be fair, the latency I have with
both LR & PS is barely improved, too. So this could be a warning
before you buy a new card - it won't necessarily help. Admittedly, I
am seriously impatient, so any latency at all drives me up the wall.
What I see could be what everyone else with a PC sees.

To make things so much worse, even though this is probably unusual, my
PC once again had it's boot files wiped out when I installed the card,
just like what happened with that Win 10 update a few months ago, and
I spent several hours with what should have been a 5 minute card
install. It appears that "secure boot", which is enabled in most
Windows PC's these days, might be the issue. I disabled it, so we'll
see.

Anyway, On1 sucks, LR sucks, PS sucks, Nvidia sucks, PC's suck,
technology sucks. I'm starting to understand Ted Kaczyinski.

just windows. everything else works great

Do you suggest that he should run his apps on Linux with Wine?
--
teleportation kills

On Sat, 02 Sep 2017 14:42:26 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Bill W
wrote:

I finally went to get a new graphics card. I carefully selected the
Nvidia GT 1030 by determining that it was the *only* card on the shelf
at Best Buy. It's a 2 GB card.

The crashing problem I had with On1 is now cured. Unfortunately,
nothing else is. It is still very slow - 3-5 seconds to move from one
photo to the next in filmstrip. To be fair, the latency I have with
both LR & PS is barely improved, too. So this could be a warning
before you buy a new card - it won't necessarily help. Admittedly, I
am seriously impatient, so any latency at all drives me up the wall.
What I see could be what everyone else with a PC sees.

To make things so much worse, even though this is probably unusual, my
PC once again had it's boot files wiped out when I installed the card,
just like what happened with that Win 10 update a few months ago, and
I spent several hours with what should have been a 5 minute card
install. It appears that "secure boot", which is enabled in most
Windows PC's these days, might be the issue. I disabled it, so we'll
see.

Anyway, On1 sucks, LR sucks, PS sucks, Nvidia sucks, PC's suck,
technology sucks. I'm starting to understand Ted Kaczyinski.

just windows. everything else works great

This started because I was comparing the performance of LR on my PC to
what I saw in tutorials, specifically Kost's. There was zero latency
on hers, but hers is a Mac. I now have to assume that the problem lies
there. Also, Duck has no issue with On1's speed, and he uses a Mac.

So Apple sucks, too, for causing me all these problems. I am now
googling for hoodies, and then bomb-making lessons...

On Sat, 02 Sep 2017 21:09:49 +0200, android wrote:

In article ,
Bill W wrote:

It appears that "secure boot", which is enabled in most
Windows PC's these days, might be the issue.

Windows has always been about security... The question is security of
whom!

Yes, some googling on the subject does point to what you're implying,
but they did make some allowances for (some distros of) Linux.

At least it can be disabled, even if it's not necessarily a good idea
overall.

In article ,
Bill W wrote:

On Sat, 02 Sep 2017 21:09:49 +0200, android wrote:

In article ,
Bill W wrote:

It appears that "secure boot", which is enabled in most
Windows PC's these days, might be the issue.

Windows has always been about security... The question is security of
whom!

Yes, some googling on the subject does point to what you're implying,
but they did make some allowances for (some distros of) Linux.

At least it can be disabled, even if it's not necessarily a good idea
overall.

Well... MS have been tooting Windows as the secure computing platform
for demanding users, like corporate and "others" since the introduction
of Windows 95, IIRC!
--
teleportation kills

On Sep 2, 2017, Bill W wrote
(in ):

On Sat, 02 Sep 2017 14:42:26 -0400,
wrote:

In , Bill W
wrote:

I finally went to get a new graphics card. I carefully selected the
Nvidia GT 1030 by determining that it was the *only* card on the shelf
at Best Buy. It's a 2 GB card.

The crashing problem I had with On1 is now cured. Unfortunately,
nothing else is. It is still very slow - 3-5 seconds to move from one
photo to the next in filmstrip. To be fair, the latency I have with
both LR & PS is barely improved, too. So this could be a warning
before you buy a new card - it won't necessarily help. Admittedly, I
am seriously impatient, so any latency at all drives me up the wall.
What I see could be what everyone else with a PC sees.

To make things so much worse, even though this is probably unusual, my
PC once again had it's boot files wiped out when I installed the card,
just like what happened with that Win 10 update a few months ago, and
I spent several hours with what should have been a 5 minute card
install. It appears that "secure boot", which is enabled in most
Windows PC's these days, might be the issue. I disabled it, so we'll
see.

Anyway, On1 sucks, LR sucks, PS sucks, Nvidia sucks, PC's suck,
technology sucks. I'm starting to understand Ted Kaczyinski.

just windows. everything else works great

This started because I was comparing the performance of LR on my PC to
what I saw in tutorials, specifically Kost's. There was zero latency
on hers, but hers is a Mac. I now have to assume that the problem lies
there. Also, Duck has no issue with On1's speed, and he uses a Mac.

So Apple sucks, too, for causing me all these problems. I am now
googling for hoodies, and then bomb-making lessons...

....but first you have to type your 400 page manifesto on a 70 year old
Remington, and find somebody to publish it.

--

Regards,
Savageduck

On Sat, 02 Sep 2017 13:09:27 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On Sep 2, 2017, Bill W wrote
(in ):

On Sat, 02 Sep 2017 14:42:26 -0400,
wrote:

In , Bill W
wrote:

I finally went to get a new graphics card. I carefully selected the
Nvidia GT 1030 by determining that it was the *only* card on the shelf
at Best Buy. It's a 2 GB card.

The crashing problem I had with On1 is now cured. Unfortunately,
nothing else is. It is still very slow - 3-5 seconds to move from one
photo to the next in filmstrip. To be fair, the latency I have with
both LR & PS is barely improved, too. So this could be a warning
before you buy a new card - it won't necessarily help. Admittedly, I
am seriously impatient, so any latency at all drives me up the wall.
What I see could be what everyone else with a PC sees.

To make things so much worse, even though this is probably unusual, my
PC once again had it's boot files wiped out when I installed the card,
just like what happened with that Win 10 update a few months ago, and
I spent several hours with what should have been a 5 minute card
install. It appears that "secure boot", which is enabled in most
Windows PC's these days, might be the issue. I disabled it, so we'll
see.

Anyway, On1 sucks, LR sucks, PS sucks, Nvidia sucks, PC's suck,
technology sucks. I'm starting to understand Ted Kaczyinski.

just windows. everything else works great

This started because I was comparing the performance of LR on my PC to
what I saw in tutorials, specifically Kost's. There was zero latency
on hers, but hers is a Mac. I now have to assume that the problem lies
there. Also, Duck has no issue with On1's speed, and he uses a Mac.

So Apple sucks, too, for causing me all these problems. I am now
googling for hoodies, and then bomb-making lessons...

...but first you have to type your 400 page manifesto on a 70 year old
Remington, and find somebody to publish it.

Sheesh, this looks a lot harder than I thought. That's a lot of work
just to blow things up. I might have to rethink this.

In article , android
wrote:


Windows has always been about security... The question is security of
whom!

employees who have to support it, which is why they recommend it.
otherwise they'd be out of a job.