Trying a new post-processing combination

Shot a waterfall in TN the day before the Eclipse; while I've been
experimenting for awhile with HDR, I've never really liked the 'fake'
way that they typically come out.

Tried a different combination on this one; for comments on the general treatment.

http://huntzinger.com/gallery/index.php/water/Grotto_Falls_2017-HDR-apply_image75crop900x600

I'll have to go back and more clearly document the post- steps for future
reproducibility, but the basics was that after doing the HDR, I then used
Photoshops "Apply Image" tool to take a copy and multiply it against itself.

Overall, I'm wondering if this combination is functionally working against itself?

Nevertheless, I did like how this approach improved contrast while retaining
some of the better parts of HDR (sky isn't blown out).

FWIW, I'm good with the huge area of shadow to the left - - while a classical
HDR treatment could have gone in to lighten this up under this cliff overhang,
that's where I find HDR can go too far.

Finally, on composition, I've not yet decided on just how to finish it. I may
leave it in landscape while pulling it in a little (remove distractions), or I may
shift to portrait.


-hh

On 24/08/2017 8:33 @wiz, -hh wrote:


Finally, on composition, I've not yet decided on just how to finish it. I may
leave it in landscape while pulling it in a little (remove distractions), or I may
shift to portrait.


I've now decided that stitching can be done in the vertical as well as
horizontal:
https://www.viewbug.com/photo/74167537
(hope that can show to outsiders...)

On 24/08/2017 11:44, Noons wrote:
On 24/08/2017 8:33 @wiz, -hh wrote:


Finally, on composition, I've not yet decided on just how to finish
it.Â* I may
leave it in landscape while pulling it in a little (remove
distractions), or I may
shift to portrait.


I've now decided that stitching can be done in the vertical as well as
horizontal:
https://www.viewbug.com/photo/74167537
(hope that can show to outsiders...)

Nice photograph! :-)

Here's one for you:- https://www.viewbug.com/photo/74663556

--
David B.

On Aug 24, 2017, hh wrote
(in ):

Shot a waterfall in TN the day before the Eclipse; while I've been
experimenting for awhile with HDR, I've never really liked the 'fake'
way that they typically come out.

Tried a different combination on this one; for comments on the general
treatment.

http://huntzinger.com/gallery/index....-HDR-apply_ima
ge75crop900x600

I'll have to go back and more clearly document the post- steps for future
reproducibility, but the basics was that after doing the HDR, I then used
Photoshops "Apply Image" tool to take a copy and multiply it against itself.

Overall, I'm wondering if this combination is functionally working against
itself?

Nevertheless, I did like how this approach improved contrast while retaining
some of the better parts of HDR (sky isn't blown out).

FWIW, I'm good with the huge area of shadow to the left - - while a classical
HDR treatment could have gone in to lighten this up under this cliff overhang,
that's where I find HDR can go too far.

Finally, on composition, I've not yet decided on just how to finish it. I may
leave it in landscape while pulling it in a little (remove distractions), or
I may
shift to portrait.

-hh

Nice work. However, since the major “look� to your image is what looks to
be a long exposure smoothing effect to the waterfall, I have to ask if you
considered one of the non-HDR multiple exposure, exposure stacking/blending
techniques. Then there is also using a 6-10ND filter and a long exposure.

There is an exposure blending method which can emulate the long exposure
effect with no HDR tone-mapping.

https://digital-photography-school.c...blending-high-
contast-landscapes/
https://digital-photography-school.c...long-exposure-
with-photo-stacking/
https://www.picturecorrect.com/tips/...rial-in-adobe-
photoshop/
https://expertphotography.com/daytime-long-exposure-photo-stacking/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQhtqGLglww
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqqI32Aw1J0

--

Regards,
Savageduck

On Aug 24, 2017, Savageduck wrote
(in iganews.com):

On Aug 24, 2017, hh wrote
(in ):

Shot a waterfall in TN the day before the Eclipse; while I've been
experimenting for awhile with HDR, I've never really liked the 'fake'
way that they typically come out.

Tried a different combination on this one; for comments on the general
treatment.

http://huntzinger.com/gallery/index....17-HDR-apply_i
ma
ge75crop900x600

I'll have to go back and more clearly document the post- steps for future
reproducibility, but the basics was that after doing the HDR, I then used
Photoshops "Apply Image" tool to take a copy and multiply it against itself.

Overall, I'm wondering if this combination is functionally working against
itself?

Nevertheless, I did like how this approach improved contrast while retaining
some of the better parts of HDR (sky isn't blown out).

FWIW, I'm good with the huge area of shadow to the left - - while a
classical
HDR treatment could have gone in to lighten this up under this cliff
overhang,
that's where I find HDR can go too far.

Finally, on composition, I've not yet decided on just how to finish it. I
may
leave it in landscape while pulling it in a little (remove distractions), or
I may
shift to portrait.

-hh

Nice work. However, since the major “look� to your image is what looks to
be a long exposure smoothing effect to the waterfall, I have to ask if you
considered one of the non-HDR multiple exposure, exposure stacking/blending
techniques. Then there is also using a 6-10ND filter and a long exposure.

There is an exposure blending method which can emulate the long exposure
effect with no HDR tone-mapping.

https://digital-photography-school.c...blending-high-
contast-landscapes/
https://digital-photography-school.c...long-exposure-
with-photo-stacking/
https://www.picturecorrect.com/tips/...rial-in-adobe-
photoshop/
https://expertphotography.com/daytime-long-exposure-photo-stacking/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQhtqGLglww
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqqI32Aw1J0

That is if this is the sort of thing you might be after.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s02hrr4h615h49j/DSF4627.jpg

--

Regards,
Savageduck

On 24/08/2017 10:44 @wiz, David B. wrote:


I've now decided that stitching can be done in the vertical as well as
horizontal:
https://www.viewbug.com/photo/74167537
(hope that can show to outsiders...)

Nice photograph! :-)

Thanks!



Here's one for you:-Â* https://www.viewbug.com/photo/74663556

With an ipad? Amazing!

On 8/24/2017 6:44 AM, Noons wrote:
On 24/08/2017 8:33 @wiz, -hh wrote:


Finally, on composition, I've not yet decided on just how to finish
it.Â* I may
leave it in landscape while pulling it in a little (remove
distractions), or I may
shift to portrait.


I've now decided that stitching can be done in the vertical as well as
horizontal:
https://www.viewbug.com/photo/74167537
(hope that can show to outsiders...)


Now play with a horizontal pan, holding the camera vertically.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i5e5p0n5hq9z29m/seattle%20skyline1.jpg?dl=0


--
PeterN

On Thursday, August 24, 2017 at 9:40:20 AM UTC-4, Savageduck wrote:
On Aug 24, 2017, hh wrote
(in ):

Shot a waterfall in TN the day before the Eclipse; while I've been
experimenting for awhile with HDR, I've never really liked the 'fake'
way that they typically come out.

Tried a different combination on this one; for comments on the general
treatment.

http://huntzinger.com/gallery/index....-HDR-apply_ima
ge75crop900x600

I'll have to go back and more clearly document the post- steps for future
reproducibility, but the basics was that after doing the HDR, I then used
Photoshops "Apply Image" tool to take a copy and multiply it against itself.

Overall, I'm wondering if this combination is functionally working against
itself?

Nevertheless, I did like how this approach improved contrast while retaining
some of the better parts of HDR (sky isn't blown out).

FWIW, I'm good with the huge area of shadow to the left - - while a classical
HDR treatment could have gone in to lighten this up under this cliff overhang,
that's where I find HDR can go too far.

Finally, on composition, I've not yet decided on just how to finish it. I may
leave it in landscape while pulling it in a little (remove distractions), or
I may
shift to portrait.

-hh

Nice work. However, since the major “look� to your image is what looks to
be a long exposure smoothing effect to the waterfall, I have to ask if you
considered one of the non-HDR multiple exposure, exposure stacking/blending
techniques. Then there is also using a 6-10ND filter and a long exposure.

I had an ND6 for some of the shots and then added an ND2 on top of that.
Depending on which shots I put into the HDR stack, it could have been with one
or with both. Overall, my concern on shots like this is the overexposure of the
sky background behind the waterfall. I'll probably do a more 'plain' processing
sometime within the next week.


There is an exposure blending method which can emulate the long exposure
effect with no HDR tone-mapping.

https://digital-photography-school.c...blending-high-
contast-landscapes/
https://digital-photography-school.c...long-exposure-
with-photo-stacking/
https://www.picturecorrect.com/tips/...rial-in-adobe-
photoshop/
https://expertphotography.com/daytime-long-exposure-photo-stacking/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQhtqGLglww
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqqI32Aw1J0

One more thing for the 'to do' research list!


-hh