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How do you post things on Instagramr without losing one'scopyright?
On 10/10/2017 01:06 PM, Tony Cooper wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 12:33:47 -0400, micky wrote: In rec.photo.digital, on Tue, 10 Oct 2017 01:29:22 -0400, Tony Cooper wrote: On Mon, 09 Oct 2017 21:35:46 -0400, micky wrote: In rec.photo.digital, on Mon, 09 Oct 2017 16:51:25 -0400, Tony Cooper wrote: On Mon, 09 Oct 2017 13:19:54 -0700, Savageduck wrote: On Oct 9, 2017, micky wrote (in ): How do you post things to Instagram, Imgur, or Flickr without losing one's copyright? I seriously doubt that you will have much protection if you use Instagram, or Imgur regardless of what might be stated in their terms of service. Using ether of those and you are effectively surrendering any rights you might hold. https://help.instagram.com/478745558852511 https://imgur.com/tos Flickr, and other sites such as Smugmug probably afford you better protection of your rights, but that does not mean that they will not be vulnerable to image poachers. https://www.flickr.com/services/api/tos/ The protection in SmugMug is up to the user. When I create a gallery I check off a number of preferences in "Settings". One of them is in "Photo Protection" and it allows me to enable or disable "Downloads". While I allow downloads, I'm under no illusion that disabling downloads would totally prevent anyone from grabbing my photo. I don't watermark By watermark, you're including both dim images and clearly-visible ones? By "watermark" I mean adding anything intended to prevent someone from being able to use the photo as shot. It's usually done in digital images by superimposing some image - either just diagonal lines, text, or a design - over the original image and reducing the opacity of the layer. The term comes from the paper industry, not from photography, and has been done since the 11th Century. Watermarks were originally produced by stamping the paper when it was still wet in the manufacturing process so the resulting change in the thickness of the paper created a shadow image. I wondered how they did that. When you held up a sheet of good quality paper to the light you'd see "20% Rag Content" as a watermark. Back when it was popular to have studio portraits taken, the studio would provide a selection of photos and the customer would choose which ones to print and at what size to print them. The photos in the selection would have PROOF in large letters on each selection so you'd have to pay them for a print without that. That was functionally a watermark. I remember those days. Was it before that or after that that the proofs would fade away, I guess because they didn't use fixer. In the old days (perhaps as late as the 1970's), there was a product called "Printing Out Paper" I don't have the details, but basically this paper was designed to provide an image with no chemicals. The paper was contact printed under a UV light (or sunlight). The image was really very good, but not permanent. Maybe six months under normal room lighting. Now, I watch one TV court show and suits between brides and photographers are not rare, often when the photographer is an amateur trying to become a pro. But I don't think any cases involve watermarks. On one "People's Court" episode, the judge really needed to review copyright law! There is a copyright that exists when an image is fixed in a permanent and tangible form. There is a registered copyright when the image is submitted to the US Copyright office. If someone violates your copyright, you can sue for damages. If someone violates your registered copyright, you can sue for punitive damages. When I was running my studio, I filed monthly contact sheets of my work as a collection. or add a copyright text line to my photographs, either. If some stranger wants to appropriate one of my photos, I don't give a rat's ass. If he can't do better than I can on my own, he needs all the help he can get. As I worked on this thread, I realized that it would be great if any of them got recirculated, and all I want is my father's name or mine, the month, and the year in a corner of the picture. Which is the best corner?= Just add text to photograph that identifies you or the subject and the date taken. Locate it anywhere on the photo where it is not intrusive. If you don't have Photoshop, the free FastStone Image Viewer ( http://www.faststone.org/ ) allows you to add text in caption form to a photograph using the Draw Board. The caption is then embedded in the photo. Thanks. I'll try it. I just did this in FastStone as a demo. https://photos.smugmug.com/AUE-Temp/...O/ABC-1942.jpg That is me, but I have no idea what the kitten's name was, but you seem to like "Fluffy" so I used that. Fluffy is a good name for a kitten. I'd forgotten that you lived in Indiapolis, where I lived from age 10 to 18. You're also older than I am, I see. (I'm 70.) Yup. Broad Ripple and Broad Ripple High School. David Letterman, who recently attended the Colts game that Pence walked out on, also attended BRHS, but several years later. I'm not sure that photo was taken in 1942. I tried to estimate my age, and I was born in 1938 so that's close. Some family snapshots are stamp dated on the back, but not all of them. -- Ken Hart |
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How do you post things on Instagramr without losing one's copyright?
In rec.photo.digital, on Wed, 11 Oct 2017 19:16:29 -0400, Ken Hart
wrote: On 10/10/2017 01:06 PM, Tony Cooper wrote: On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 12:33:47 -0400, micky wrote: In rec.photo.digital, on Tue, 10 Oct 2017 01:29:22 -0400, Tony Cooper wrote: ..... By "watermark" I mean adding anything intended to prevent someone from being able to use the photo as shot. It's usually done in digital images by superimposing some image - either just diagonal lines, text, or a design - over the original image and reducing the opacity of the layer. The term comes from the paper industry, not from photography, and has been done since the 11th Century. Watermarks were originally produced by stamping the paper when it was still wet in the manufacturing process so the resulting change in the thickness of the paper created a shadow image. I wondered how they did that. When you held up a sheet of good quality paper to the light you'd see "20% Rag Content" as a watermark. Back when it was popular to have studio portraits taken, the studio would provide a selection of photos and the customer would choose which ones to print and at what size to print them. The photos in the selection would have PROOF in large letters on each selection so you'd have to pay them for a print without that. That was functionally a watermark. I remember those days. Was it before that or after that that the proofs would fade away, I guess because they didn't use fixer. In the old days (perhaps as late as the 1970's), there was a product called "Printing Out Paper" I don't have the details, but basically this paper was designed to provide an image with no chemicals. The paper was contact printed under a UV light (or sunlight). The image was really very good, but not permanent. Maybe six months under normal room lighting. Now, I watch one TV court show and suits between brides and photographers are not rare, often when the photographer is an amateur trying to become a pro. But I don't think any cases involve watermarks. On one "People's Court" episode, the judge really needed to review copyright law! I'm not too surprised. She also seems sometimes to misunderstand the explanation give, or the timeline. I try to assume that if I saw the unabridged video, she would make more sense on those occasion. But I still like her better than any other court shows, none of which I watch. There is a copyright that exists when an image is fixed in a permanent and tangible form. There is a registered copyright when the image is submitted to the US Copyright office. If someone violates your copyright, you can sue for damages. If someone violates your registered copyright, you can sue for punitive damages. How about pain and suffering! When I was running my studio, I filed monthly contact sheets of my work as a collection. or add a copyright text line to my photographs, either. If some stranger wants to appropriate one of my photos, I don't give a rat's ass. If he can't do better than I can on my own, he needs all the help he can get. As I worked on this thread, I realized that it would be great if any of them got recirculated, and all I want is my father's name or mine, the month, and the year in a corner of the picture. Which is the best corner?= Just add text to photograph that identifies you or the subject and the date taken. Locate it anywhere on the photo where it is not intrusive. If you don't have Photoshop, the free FastStone Image Viewer ( http://www.faststone.org/ ) allows you to add text in caption form to a photograph using the Draw Board. The caption is then embedded in the photo. Thanks. I'll try it. I just did this in FastStone as a demo. https://photos.smugmug.com/AUE-Temp/...O/ABC-1942.jpg That is me, but I have no idea what the kitten's name was, but you seem to like "Fluffy" so I used that. Fluffy is a good name for a kitten. I'd forgotten that you lived in Indiapolis, where I lived from age 10 to 18. You're also older than I am, I see. (I'm 70.) Yup. Broad Ripple and Broad Ripple High School. David Letterman, who recently attended the Colts game that Pence walked out on, also attended BRHS, but several years later. I went to summer school there one summer, Took economics. I'm not sure that photo was taken in 1942. I tried to estimate my age, and I was born in 1938 so that's close. Some family snapshots are stamp dated on the back, but not all of them. So you're just 2 years older than my brother. |
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