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Old June 25th 16, 09:46 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Adriano[_2_]
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PeterN ci ha detto :

Are you near Rome?


no, Milan. But I'm confident that even here there will be a service.
Thanks

Adriano
  #12  
Old June 25th 16, 02:34 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 2016-06-24 12:17, David Taylor wrote:
On 24/06/2016 14:39, Alan Browne wrote:
[]
I don't know about your particular kit, but you can always use EXIFTOOL
to merge your GPS locations with photos in post processing if you can't
get it to function with the camera. This assumes the GPS records
position and time data.

1. The camera time has to be reasonably accurate (within 1 minute is
adequate for my needs). So I sync the camera time every few months.
Also care to the time zone may be needed. I simply use UTC for camera
time and don't worry about it.

2. The GPS data needs to be extracted for the time of the photos on the
camera.

3. Copy all of that data (images and GPS data) to a known location on
your PC (EXIFTOOL works on Windows, Unix (Mac) and Linux machines).

4. You need to master the arcane commands of EXIFTOOL. That can take
some work.

Wow, that is tedious, huh? So look around for the various photo tagging
apps that exist, free and otherwise. They generally use EXIFTOOL under
the hood but do all the heavy lifting for you.


Far easier than using EXIFtool is the free GeoSetter:

http://www.geosetter.de/en/

which does all the EXIFtool stuff for you.


Yes, why I mention such tools (and there are many) in that last paragraph.

That said, I find them tedious to set up and use the command line
version. I have "template" commands stored in a .txt file and I just
edit that to process a batch of photos in far less time than using
poorly designed GUI's.


--
She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics.
-Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.
  #13  
Old June 25th 16, 02:35 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Alan Browne
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On 2016-06-24 12:56, Adriano wrote:
Sembra che David Taylor abbia detto :

thank you all.
Yes, I know that it is possible to add the exif data.
Unfortunately the marrex is not a logger. Data are written in the shot
moment. Maybe I could use an adroid app to log the track and extract the
time\position data....boring, but it will be the only solution if I
cannot understand where the problem is


There are many apps for Android (and iOS) that record position.

--
She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics.
-Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.
  #14  
Old June 25th 16, 03:11 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
David Taylor
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On 25/06/2016 14:34, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2016-06-24 12:17, David Taylor wrote:

[]
which does all the EXIFtool stuff for you.


Yes, why I mention such tools (and there are many) in that last paragraph.

That said, I find them tedious to set up and use the command line
version. I have "template" commands stored in a .txt file and I just
edit that to process a batch of photos in far less time than using
poorly designed GUI's.


Yes, I appreciated the mention. For me, not all the photos are taken in
a location where GPS was available, and occasionally the GPS location
can be further off than I would like (e.g. just after switch on), so I
very much prefer the graphical approach which provides visual
confirmation that the location is correct, and allows easy geo-tagging
of images where the information is otherwise missing.

Certainly if each image needed to be processed by hand that would be a
major issue, but GeoSetter can process as many images as you want in a
batch mode, and it then leaves you with list of images where manual
intervention is required.

http://www.geosetter.de/en/

--
Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
  #15  
Old June 25th 16, 04:27 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Alan Browne
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On 2016-06-25 10:11, David Taylor wrote:
On 25/06/2016 14:34, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2016-06-24 12:17, David Taylor wrote:

[]
which does all the EXIFtool stuff for you.


Yes, why I mention such tools (and there are many) in that last
paragraph.

That said, I find them tedious to set up and use the command line
version. I have "template" commands stored in a .txt file and I just
edit that to process a batch of photos in far less time than using
poorly designed GUI's.


Yes, I appreciated the mention. For me, not all the photos are taken in
a location where GPS was available, and occasionally the GPS location
can be further off than I would like (e.g. just after switch on), so I
very much prefer the graphical approach which provides visual
confirmation that the location is correct, and allows easy geo-tagging
of images where the information is otherwise missing.


I leave my GPS recorder on all of the time while out and about taking
photos so there is no startup time and error. If the reception is bad,
then at least the position recorded will be close. It's not always
possible to determine where you were from GE or other sources as all you
see is the canopy with few ground details to figure out where you were
with any accuracy. If one had a map and remembered (or marked) where on
it one was, then one can get a much closer fix. Not always the case.

I try to keep my GPS receiver above my head. In the winter that's under
my toque (also keeps the batteries warm); in the summer attached to the
top of my bush hat if I remember to bring it. That helps in the woods
where sat reception can be very poor.

Also record a backup on the iPhone. Not as accurate, especially in the
woods, but there at least if the other device screws up or dies.


Certainly if each image needed to be processed by hand that would be a
major issue, but GeoSetter can process as many images as you want in a
batch mode, and it then leaves you with list of images where manual
intervention is required.


And I get the same by using the command line. If any are off I can use
EXIFTOOL to set a specific location for any particular photo or batch.

Hard position set for a batch of photos:
exiftool -overwrite_original_in_place -GPSLatitude=42.1902550
-GPSLatitudeRef=N -GPSLongitude=78.122532 -GPSLongitudeRef=W *.dng
(Replace * with a given file name if needed - copy/paste is very useful).

Position set from a GPS file for a batch of files.
exiftool -geotag=GPS_20120604_193428.log -overwrite_original_in_place
-geosync=-4:00:00 *.dng

(Have to set the geosync according to daylight savings. Unfortunately,
EXIFTOOL uses the computer time whereas my camera records UTC time).

It could even be useful to write a simple program to take in filenames
and positions and format the above and invoke EXIFTOOL, I suppose.


--
She hummed to herself because she was an unrivaled botcher of lyrics.
-Nick (Gone Girl), Gillian Flynn.
  #16  
Old June 25th 16, 04:46 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
David Taylor
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On 25/06/2016 16:27, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2016-06-25 10:11, David Taylor wrote:
On 25/06/2016 14:34, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2016-06-24 12:17, David Taylor wrote:

[]
which does all the EXIFtool stuff for you.

Yes, why I mention such tools (and there are many) in that last
paragraph.

That said, I find them tedious to set up and use the command line
version. I have "template" commands stored in a .txt file and I just
edit that to process a batch of photos in far less time than using
poorly designed GUI's.


Yes, I appreciated the mention. For me, not all the photos are taken in
a location where GPS was available, and occasionally the GPS location
can be further off than I would like (e.g. just after switch on), so I
very much prefer the graphical approach which provides visual
confirmation that the location is correct, and allows easy geo-tagging
of images where the information is otherwise missing.


I leave my GPS recorder on all of the time while out and about taking
photos so there is no startup time and error. If the reception is bad,
then at least the position recorded will be close. It's not always
possible to determine where you were from GE or other sources as all you
see is the canopy with few ground details to figure out where you were
with any accuracy. If one had a map and remembered (or marked) where on
it one was, then one can get a much closer fix. Not always the case.

I try to keep my GPS receiver above my head. In the winter that's under
my toque (also keeps the batteries warm); in the summer attached to the
top of my bush hat if I remember to bring it. That helps in the woods
where sat reception can be very poor.

Also record a backup on the iPhone. Not as accurate, especially in the
woods, but there at least if the other device screws up or dies.


Certainly if each image needed to be processed by hand that would be a
major issue, but GeoSetter can process as many images as you want in a
batch mode, and it then leaves you with list of images where manual
intervention is required.


And I get the same by using the command line. If any are off I can use
EXIFTOOL to set a specific location for any particular photo or batch.

Hard position set for a batch of photos:
exiftool -overwrite_original_in_place -GPSLatitude=42.1902550
-GPSLatitudeRef=N -GPSLongitude=78.122532 -GPSLongitudeRef=W *.dng
(Replace * with a given file name if needed - copy/paste is very useful).

Position set from a GPS file for a batch of files.
exiftool -geotag=GPS_20120604_193428.log -overwrite_original_in_place
-geosync=-4:00:00 *.dng

(Have to set the geosync according to daylight savings. Unfortunately,
EXIFTOOL uses the computer time whereas my camera records UTC time).

It could even be useful to write a simple program to take in filenames
and positions and format the above and invoke EXIFTOOL, I suppose.


I'm perhaps using the GPS in a more urban environment, and tend to
switch if off when stopping in a café or restaurant. It's when leaving
that I may forget to switch the GPS receiver back on, or it may take a
couple of minutes to acquire lock (I know it should be faster...).

I've not tried using the phone as a track logger. How much does it
affect battery life?

Hard position setting via a batch file is fine, but you need to select
the files and I find that easier graphically selecting from a list.
Dragging a pointer to a map location isn't hard either. I keep all my
photos in UTC time as you do, and GeoSetter seems to get the UTC times
correct when it reads the .GPX file, so there are no issues with EXIFTOOL.

Yes, you could write a program, and it would be the Mac equivalent of
GeoSetter. Many would thank you for it! Maybe there already is one?

--
Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
  #17  
Old June 25th 16, 05:29 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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On 2016-06-25 15:46:53 +0000, David Taylor
said:

On 25/06/2016 16:27, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2016-06-25 10:11, David Taylor wrote:
On 25/06/2016 14:34, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2016-06-24 12:17, David Taylor wrote:
[]
which does all the EXIFtool stuff for you.

Yes, why I mention such tools (and there are many) in that last
paragraph.

That said, I find them tedious to set up and use the command line
version. I have "template" commands stored in a .txt file and I just
edit that to process a batch of photos in far less time than using
poorly designed GUI's.

Yes, I appreciated the mention. For me, not all the photos are taken in
a location where GPS was available, and occasionally the GPS location
can be further off than I would like (e.g. just after switch on), so I
very much prefer the graphical approach which provides visual
confirmation that the location is correct, and allows easy geo-tagging
of images where the information is otherwise missing.


I leave my GPS recorder on all of the time while out and about taking
photos so there is no startup time and error. If the reception is bad,
then at least the position recorded will be close. It's not always
possible to determine where you were from GE or other sources as all you
see is the canopy with few ground details to figure out where you were
with any accuracy. If one had a map and remembered (or marked) where on
it one was, then one can get a much closer fix. Not always the case.

I try to keep my GPS receiver above my head. In the winter that's under
my toque (also keeps the batteries warm); in the summer attached to the
top of my bush hat if I remember to bring it. That helps in the woods
where sat reception can be very poor.

Also record a backup on the iPhone. Not as accurate, especially in the
woods, but there at least if the other device screws up or dies.


Certainly if each image needed to be processed by hand that would be a
major issue, but GeoSetter can process as many images as you want in a
batch mode, and it then leaves you with list of images where manual
intervention is required.


And I get the same by using the command line. If any are off I can use
EXIFTOOL to set a specific location for any particular photo or batch.

Hard position set for a batch of photos:
exiftool -overwrite_original_in_place -GPSLatitude=42.1902550
-GPSLatitudeRef=N -GPSLongitude=78.122532 -GPSLongitudeRef=W *.dng
(Replace * with a given file name if needed - copy/paste is very useful).

Position set from a GPS file for a batch of files.
exiftool -geotag=GPS_20120604_193428.log -overwrite_original_in_place
-geosync=-4:00:00 *.dng

(Have to set the geosync according to daylight savings. Unfortunately,
EXIFTOOL uses the computer time whereas my camera records UTC time).

It could even be useful to write a simple program to take in filenames
and positions and format the above and invoke EXIFTOOL, I suppose.


I'm perhaps using the GPS in a more urban environment, and tend to
switch if off when stopping in a café or restaurant. It's when leaving
that I may forget to switch the GPS receiver back on, or it may take a
couple of minutes to acquire lock (I know it should be faster...).

I've not tried using the phone as a track logger. How much does it
affect battery life?

Hard position setting via a batch file is fine, but you need to select
the files and I find that easier graphically selecting from a list.
Dragging a pointer to a map location isn't hard either. I keep all my
photos in UTC time as you do, and GeoSetter seems to get the UTC times
correct when it reads the .GPX file, so there are no issues with
EXIFTOOL.

Yes, you could write a program, and it would be the Mac equivalent of
GeoSetter. Many would thank you for it! Maybe there already is one?



None of these are perfect, but they provide a method for writing GEO tags.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/photo-geotag/id957217448?mt=12
https://www.houdah.com/houdahGeo/?lang=en
http://www.snafu.org/GeoTag/

I currently use a Nikon GP-1 on my D300S and it has always given me
accurate results in the open, with accuracy dropping with heavy
overhead cover.
With my Fujifilm X-E2 I sync with the "Cam Remote" app on my iPhone,
and so far the accuracy is good enough for my purposes.
For making any tag adjustments/edits or adding GPS data to untagged
image files, I use the Lightroom "Map" module.

--
Regards,

Savageduck

  #18  
Old June 25th 16, 06:22 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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On 2016-06-25 16:29:01 +0000, Savageduck said:

On 2016-06-25 15:46:53 +0000, David Taylor
said:

On 25/06/2016 16:27, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2016-06-25 10:11, David Taylor wrote:
On 25/06/2016 14:34, Alan Browne wrote:
On 2016-06-24 12:17, David Taylor wrote:
[]
which does all the EXIFtool stuff for you.

Yes, why I mention such tools (and there are many) in that last
paragraph.

That said, I find them tedious to set up and use the command line
version. I have "template" commands stored in a .txt file and I just
edit that to process a batch of photos in far less time than using
poorly designed GUI's.

Yes, I appreciated the mention. For me, not all the photos are taken in
a location where GPS was available, and occasionally the GPS location
can be further off than I would like (e.g. just after switch on), so I
very much prefer the graphical approach which provides visual
confirmation that the location is correct, and allows easy geo-tagging
of images where the information is otherwise missing.

I leave my GPS recorder on all of the time while out and about taking
photos so there is no startup time and error. If the reception is bad,
then at least the position recorded will be close. It's not always
possible to determine where you were from GE or other sources as all you
see is the canopy with few ground details to figure out where you were
with any accuracy. If one had a map and remembered (or marked) where on
it one was, then one can get a much closer fix. Not always the case.

I try to keep my GPS receiver above my head. In the winter that's under
my toque (also keeps the batteries warm); in the summer attached to the
top of my bush hat if I remember to bring it. That helps in the woods
where sat reception can be very poor.

Also record a backup on the iPhone. Not as accurate, especially in the
woods, but there at least if the other device screws up or dies.


Certainly if each image needed to be processed by hand that would be a
major issue, but GeoSetter can process as many images as you want in a
batch mode, and it then leaves you with list of images where manual
intervention is required.

And I get the same by using the command line. If any are off I can use
EXIFTOOL to set a specific location for any particular photo or batch.

Hard position set for a batch of photos:
exiftool -overwrite_original_in_place -GPSLatitude=42.1902550
-GPSLatitudeRef=N -GPSLongitude=78.122532 -GPSLongitudeRef=W *.dng
(Replace * with a given file name if needed - copy/paste is very useful).

Position set from a GPS file for a batch of files.
exiftool -geotag=GPS_20120604_193428.log -overwrite_original_in_place
-geosync=-4:00:00 *.dng

(Have to set the geosync according to daylight savings. Unfortunately,
EXIFTOOL uses the computer time whereas my camera records UTC time).

It could even be useful to write a simple program to take in filenames
and positions and format the above and invoke EXIFTOOL, I suppose.


I'm perhaps using the GPS in a more urban environment, and tend to
switch if off when stopping in a café or restaurant. It's when leaving
that I may forget to switch the GPS receiver back on, or it may take a
couple of minutes to acquire lock (I know it should be faster...).

I've not tried using the phone as a track logger. How much does it
affect battery life?

Hard position setting via a batch file is fine, but you need to select
the files and I find that easier graphically selecting from a list.
Dragging a pointer to a map location isn't hard either. I keep all my
photos in UTC time as you do, and GeoSetter seems to get the UTC times
correct when it reads the .GPX file, so there are no issues with
EXIFTOOL.

Yes, you could write a program, and it would be the Mac equivalent of
GeoSetter. Many would thank you for it! Maybe there already is one?



None of these are perfect, but they provide a method for writing GEO tags.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/photo-geotag/id957217448?mt=12
https://www.houdah.com/houdahGeo/?lang=en
http://www.snafu.org/GeoTag/

I currently use a Nikon GP-1 on my D300S and it has always given me
accurate results in the open, with accuracy dropping with heavy
overhead cover.
With my Fujifilm X-E2 I sync with the "Cam Remote" app on my iPhone,
and so far the accuracy is good enough for my purposes.
For making any tag adjustments/edits or adding GPS data to untagged
image files, I use the Lightroom "Map" module.


There is also this:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/gpx-photo-geotagger/id1074087758?mt=12
--
Regards,

Savageduck

  #19  
Old June 25th 16, 06:23 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
David Taylor
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On 25/06/2016 17:29, Savageduck wrote:
[]
None of these are perfect, but they provide a method for writing GEO tags.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/photo-geotag/id957217448?mt=12
https://www.houdah.com/houdahGeo/?lang=en
http://www.snafu.org/GeoTag/

I currently use a Nikon GP-1 on my D300S and it has always given me
accurate results in the open, with accuracy dropping with heavy overhead
cover.
With my Fujifilm X-E2 I sync with the "Cam Remote" app on my iPhone, and
so far the accuracy is good enough for my purposes.
For making any tag adjustments/edits or adding GPS data to untagged
image files, I use the Lightroom "Map" module.


I'm sure folks will appreciate that, thanks!

I must admit that having the built-in GPS on both my iPad and my
Motorola G3 phone makes it a lot more convenient than any software!

--
Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
  #20  
Old June 25th 16, 06:36 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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On 2016-06-25 17:23:22 +0000, David Taylor
said:

On 25/06/2016 17:29, Savageduck wrote:
[]
None of these are perfect, but they provide a method for writing GEO tags.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/photo-geotag/id957217448?mt=12
https://www.houdah.com/houdahGeo/?lang=en
http://www.snafu.org/GeoTag/

I currently use a Nikon GP-1 on my D300S and it has always given me
accurate results in the open, with accuracy dropping with heavy overhead
cover.
With my Fujifilm X-E2 I sync with the "Cam Remote" app on my iPhone, and
so far the accuracy is good enough for my purposes.
For making any tag adjustments/edits or adding GPS data to untagged
image files, I use the Lightroom "Map" module.


I'm sure folks will appreciate that, thanks!

I must admit that having the built-in GPS on both my iPad and my
Motorola G3 phone makes it a lot more convenient than any software!


Just one issue with the Fujifilm "Cam Remote" app with iOS. One must
ensure that iOS Location services is enabled and since the only options
are "Never" or "While Using the App" you have to make sure the App is
activated, otherwise the Geodata logging will not take place and the
sync will fail. Take those steps and it works just fine.
--
Regards,

Savageduck

 




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