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Old April 11th 05, 03:29 PM
Mark Lauter
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Default Canon 350/XT vs Rebel 2000 (film) shutter lag

I'm considering making the switch from a Rebel 2000 to the new digital XT.
One of the things that's kept me shooting film for so long is that my 2
digital cameras have shutter lags that seem like an eternity (Canon s500 and
Sony F717). By comparison the Rebel 2000 shutter is instantaneous. I never
miss a shot with this film SLR. The Sony can take over 3 seconds if not
pre-focused and is over 1 second even when pre-focused.

I've scoured the web for data on shutter lag for the Rebel 2000, but can't
find any. I don't even know if shutter lag is a digital only problem.

If I can find an equipment rental service here in Tampa, I'll just rent an
XT and try it out, but till then...

Any help would be greatly appreciated. thx.

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Old April 11th 05, 03:54 PM
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As a rule, shutter lag is similar on DSLR's as on Film SLR's... The newer
the shorter too...

Al...


"Mark Lauter" wrote in
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I'm considering making the switch from a Rebel 2000 to the new digital XT.
One of the things that's kept me shooting film for so long is that my 2
digital cameras have shutter lags that seem like an eternity (Canon s500
and
Sony F717). By comparison the Rebel 2000 shutter is instantaneous. I
never
miss a shot with this film SLR. The Sony can take over 3 seconds if not
pre-focused and is over 1 second even when pre-focused.

I've scoured the web for data on shutter lag for the Rebel 2000, but can't
find any. I don't even know if shutter lag is a digital only problem.

If I can find an equipment rental service here in Tampa, I'll just rent an
XT and try it out, but till then...

Any help would be greatly appreciated. thx.

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Old April 11th 05, 04:01 PM
Todd H.
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"Mark Lauter" writes:
I'm considering making the switch from a Rebel 2000 to the new digital XT.
One of the things that's kept me shooting film for so long is that my 2
digital cameras have shutter lags that seem like an eternity (Canon s500 and
Sony F717). By comparison the Rebel 2000 shutter is instantaneous. I never
miss a shot with this film SLR. The Sony can take over 3 seconds if not
pre-focused and is over 1 second even when pre-focused.

I've scoured the web for data on shutter lag for the Rebel 2000, but can't
find any. I don't even know if shutter lag is a digital only
problem.


I agree with you on the lag issue--it's annoying and used to be a a
compelling reason to stick with film before the advent of affordable
digital SLR's. dSLR's however are world faster. As such, I believe
you're currently comparing apples and oranges I believe (aren't these
non SLR digitals?).

That said, my Digital Rebel 300D has shutter lag that's
indistinguishable from my film Elan.

One would expect the 350XT to be even faster.

In short, I think the 350XT will make you plenty happy in the shutter
lag department.

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Old April 11th 05, 04:08 PM
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That said, my Digital Rebel 300D has shutter lag that's
indistinguishable from my film Elan.


Good to know. Thanks.

In short, I think the 350XT will make you plenty happy in the shutter
lag department.


I will probably take the plunge next month. I'm debating whether or not to
sell all my film stuff - B&W enlarger, film development kit, etc. Maybe get
out from under it all before it's too late? But I enjoy working in the dark
room if I'm in the right mood. So I haven't decided yet.

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Old April 11th 05, 04:11 PM
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As a rule, shutter lag is similar on DSLR's as on Film SLR's... The newer
the shorter too...


Thx

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Old April 11th 05, 04:58 PM
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Mark Lauter wrote:


I've scoured the web for data on shutter lag for the Rebel 2000, but can't
find any. I don't even know if shutter lag is a digital only problem.


Offhand I would guess the Rebel 2000 as on the order of 50 - 70 ms
shutter lag. No idea for the Drebel or DrebelXT.


If I can find an equipment rental service here in Tampa, I'll just rent an
XT and try it out, but till then...

Any help would be greatly appreciated. thx.


I was dismayed to discover (see prior posts) that the Maxxum 7D shutter
lag is much longer than I like. Compared to my Maxxum 9 (50-60msec),
the 7D is about 120 msec pre-focused, which when added to human lag
comes out to a little over 200ms. This makes sports shooting in
particular very tricky to get those 'ball-on-bat' type shots.

Do the 'turntable test' as described in those earlier posts and you can
compute the total human+machine lag.

Cheers,
Alan


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Old April 11th 05, 05:00 PM
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Alan Adrian wrote:

As a rule, shutter lag is similar on DSLR's as on Film SLR's... The newer
the shorter too...


Regrettably do not concur. Earlier posts on maxxum 7D refer.

Please don't top post.

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Old April 11th 05, 05:10 PM
Mark Lauter
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I've scoured the web for data on shutter lag for the Rebel 2000, but
can't
find any. I don't even know if shutter lag is a digital only problem.


Offhand I would guess the Rebel 2000 as on the order of 50 - 70 ms
shutter lag. No idea for the Drebel or DrebelXT.


For the XT I've found data suggesting 60 to 100 ms. Sorry, have lost the
links or would post. :/

If I can find an equipment rental service here in Tampa, I'll just rent

an
XT and try it out, but till then...

Any help would be greatly appreciated. thx.


I was dismayed to discover (see prior posts) that the Maxxum 7D shutter
lag is much longer than I like. Compared to my Maxxum 9 (50-60msec),
the 7D is about 120 msec pre-focused, which when added to human lag
comes out to a little over 200ms. This makes sports shooting in
particular very tricky to get those 'ball-on-bat' type shots.


Reminds me of the conversation "Why I love Digital" in alt.photography (was
cross posted there i think).

Yeah, I miss more shots with the darn 717 than I capture.

Do the 'turntable test' as described in those earlier posts and you can
compute the total human+machine lag.


I'll have to look for these posts. Thanks.

Cheers!

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Old April 11th 05, 05:15 PM
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On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 14:29:25 GMT, Mark Lauter
wrote:
I'm considering making the switch from a Rebel 2000 to the new digital XT.
One of the things that's kept me shooting film for so long is that my 2
digital cameras have shutter lags that seem like an eternity (Canon s500 and
Sony F717).


Hi, Mark.

Shutter lag -- mostly due to slow autofocus -- drove me nuts with
all-in-one digital cameras. Since I switched to a DSLR, I haven't
found it to be a problem.

Regards,

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Old April 11th 05, 06:10 PM
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Hi, Mark.

Hi Ben!

Shutter lag -- mostly due to slow autofocus -- drove me nuts with
all-in-one digital cameras. Since I switched to a DSLR, I haven't
found it to be a problem.


The Sony 717 has pretty slow autofocus, but even pre-focused or in manual
focus the lag is so long that even a slow moving subject (pedestrian for
example) can move out of the frame before the thing finally clicks. Ugh.

My girlfriend doens't mind it, so she will probably get this when I finally
make to move to digital SLR. High end film processing and professional
grade film is just getting too expensive to maintain - it's like having a
cigarette habbit.

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