FAMILY PORTRAITS LOVE THE 20D !!!

The Canon 20D is always great to have around for family gatherings.
Or in the field.
Or even family gatherings in the field!


http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/54557358

wrote:
The Canon 20D is always great to have around for family gatherings.
Or in the field.
Or even family gatherings in the field!


http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/54557358

Nasty bokeh...but that's pretty hard to avoid at f8 on such a bright,
intricately busy background like dead grass/shrubs...

In article 54gwf.8740$V.2942@fed1read04,
"Mark²" mjmorgan(lowest even number wrote:

wrote:
The Canon 20D is always great to have around for family gatherings.
Or in the field.
Or even family gatherings in the field!


http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/54557358

Nasty bokeh...but that's pretty hard to avoid at f8 on such a bright,
intricately busy background like dead grass/shrubs...

Exactly what I was thinking.

Is it just me, or does the 20D standard lens have much worse bokeh than
the D70 standard lenses (both the 18-70 and the cheap 70-300 in the two
lens kits)?

Compare, say, this, with my D70s:

http://flickr.com/photos/canllaith/73470970/

To this, taken with a friend's 20D:

http://flickr.com/photos/canllaith/78871524/


btw, before I got the Nikon, I was afraid that it wouldn't have as nice
colour as the Canons, based on photos I'd seen on the web. But I think
these allayed my fears:

http://flickr.com/photos/canllaith/72644773/
http://flickr.com/photos/canllaith/7...n/photostream/


All pics taken by my flatemate.

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Bruce Hoult wrote:
In article 54gwf.8740$V.2942@fed1read04,
"Mark²" mjmorgan(lowest even number wrote:

wrote:
The Canon 20D is always great to have around for family gatherings.
Or in the field.
Or even family gatherings in the field!


http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/54557358

Nasty bokeh...but that's pretty hard to avoid at f8 on such a bright,
intricately busy background like dead grass/shrubs...

Exactly what I was thinking.

Is it just me, or does the 20D standard lens have much worse bokeh
than the D70 standard lenses (both the 18-70 and the cheap 70-300 in
the two lens kits)?

I don't know, but that's not the lens Bret was using for that image.

Compare, say, this, with my D70s:

http://flickr.com/photos/canllaith/73470970/

To this, taken with a friend's 20D:

http://flickr.com/photos/canllaith/78871524/

I don't think it's a Canon-Nikon issue, really.
Both companies have lenses that produce very nice background renditions.
Remember, too, that there are many aspects of particular shots that help
determine bokeh. It's not just the optic and aperture mechanism. -It's
also the aperture itself, the distance between the subject and its
background...the relative distance of camera...to subject...to background,
the severity (or lack of) highlights within the background, etc., etc., etc.

btw, before I got the Nikon, I was afraid that it wouldn't have as
nice colour as the Canons, based on photos I'd seen on the web. But
I think these allayed my fears:

http://flickr.com/photos/canllaith/72644773/
http://flickr.com/photos/canllaith/7...n/photostream/

Those are nice, though I really don't think we can make a general statement
one way of the other as to which has the "best color." As you already
noted, both are certainly capable of fantastic color. Where the color is
poor, it's usually something we're doing wrong...

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:10:30 -0800, "Mark2 mjmorgan(lowest even number
wrote:

http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/54557358

Nasty bokeh...but that's pretty hard to avoid at f8 on such a bright,
intricately busy background like dead grass/shrubs...

Yeah, I wasn't expecting miracles handholding that combo (400+1.4x),
but that background was damned Buttugly!

wrote:
| On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:10:30 -0800, "Mark2 mjmorgan(lowest even number
| wrote:
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|| http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/54557358
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|| Nasty bokeh...but that's pretty hard to avoid at f8 on such a bright,
|| intricately busy background like dead grass/shrubs...
|
| Yeah, I wasn't expecting miracles handholding that combo (400+1.4x),
| but that background was damned Buttugly!

SO that is what those cranes look like up close! My brother lives in
northern British Columbia, Canada and when flocks of Sandhill Cranes fly
over he reports to me in away over in the east in Ontario for it means
Spring is on its way 'up north'. I gather they also make their own
honking noises as they fly over the mountain ranges. You should send
your photo to a bird identity collection for this is a better capture
than what I have seen previously in such texts. grin
RoseW

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 22:40:27 -0500, "RoseW"
wrote:

wrote:
| On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:10:30 -0800, "Mark2 mjmorgan(lowest even number
| wrote:
|
|| http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/54557358
|
|| Nasty bokeh...but that's pretty hard to avoid at f8 on such a bright,
|| intricately busy background like dead grass/shrubs...
|
| Yeah, I wasn't expecting miracles handholding that combo (400+1.4x),
| but that background was damned Buttugly!

SO that is what those cranes look like up close! My brother lives in
northern British Columbia, Canada and when flocks of Sandhill Cranes fly
over he reports to me in away over in the east in Ontario for it means
Spring is on its way 'up north'. I gather they also make their own
honking noises as they fly over the mountain ranges. You should send
your photo to a bird identity collection for this is a better capture
than what I have seen previously in such texts. grin
RoseW

Those Sandhill Cranes are on their way to my neighborhood. There are
several families that live on the golf course that my house fronts on.
The image doesn't give you an idea of their size. They can be up to
five feet tall.

I don't need a long lens to photograph them. You can walk up to about
five or ten yards from them. When you do get too close, they don't
fly off. They just walk away. My dog will chase after them, but the
dog backs down. The cranes don't seem to get particularly agitated.

Their honk, or call, or whatever it is the noise they make is can be
extremely annoying. You get a few of them honking back and forth at
each other and it's a raucous din.


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Tony Cooper
Orlando, FL