Interesting Photo Accessory

an F-15

http://www.veooz.com/photos/eHOCn5l.html?view=360

On 2014-08-07 06:18:05 +0000, charles said:

an F-15

http://www.veooz.com/photos/eHOCn5l.html?view=360

....but this would be a slightly more affordable accessory.

http://player.vimeo.com/video/65863381

http://tinyurl.com/qbvtwjm
(set the res to 1080p, go full screen and turn the back track down)

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Regards,

Savageduck

On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 23:47:27 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2014-08-07 06:18:05 +0000, charles said:

an F-15

http://www.veooz.com/photos/eHOCn5l.html?view=360

...but this would be a slightly more affordable accessory.

http://player.vimeo.com/video/65863381

http://tinyurl.com/qbvtwjm
(set the res to 1080p, go full screen and turn the back track down)



That looks really fun. Interesting during Santa Annas, it couyld fly
backwards.

On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 23:47:27 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2014-08-07 06:18:05 +0000, charles said:

an F-15

http://www.veooz.com/photos/eHOCn5l.html?view=360

...but this would be a slightly more affordable accessory.

http://player.vimeo.com/video/65863381

http://tinyurl.com/qbvtwjm
(set the res to 1080p, go full screen and turn the back track down)

I wouldn't like to lose one engine in that.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

Originally Posted by Eric Stevens

On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 23:47:27 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2014-08-07 06:18:05 +0000, charles said:

an F-15

http://www.veooz.com/photos/eHOCn5l.html?view=360

...but this would be a slightly more affordable accessory.

http://player.vimeo.com/video/65863381

http://tinyurl.com/qbvtwjm
(set the res to 1080p, go full screen and turn the back track down)

I wouldn't like to lose one engine in that.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

Now 21st century and the plane can fly in any direction

On 2014-08-07 09:09:36 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 23:47:27 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2014-08-07 06:18:05 +0000, charles said:

an F-15

http://www.veooz.com/photos/eHOCn5l.html?view=360

...but this would be a slightly more affordable accessory.

http://player.vimeo.com/video/65863381

http://tinyurl.com/qbvtwjm
(set the res to 1080p, go full screen and turn the back track down)

I wouldn't like to lose one engine in that.

If you look at the first video, they make a point of the single engine
performance which appears to be quite impressive.

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Regards,

Savageduck

On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 07:47:16 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2014-08-07 09:09:36 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 23:47:27 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2014-08-07 06:18:05 +0000, charles said:

an F-15

http://www.veooz.com/photos/eHOCn5l.html?view=360

...but this would be a slightly more affordable accessory.

http://player.vimeo.com/video/65863381

http://tinyurl.com/qbvtwjm
(set the res to 1080p, go full screen and turn the back track down)

I wouldn't like to lose one engine in that.

If you look at the first video, they make a point of the single engine
performance which appears to be quite impressive.

I'm blind. I didn't realise it was a video.

A magnificent contraption and I've just told a friend about it.
Knowing him, there is a good chance he will want to buy it.

It's single engined performance is much better than I thought but I
still would not like to have an engine fail just after lift off on a
short take off run. There is one shot which shows how much it yaws.
Pick up a bit of speed and it seems fine.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

On 2014-08-07 22:17:07 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 07:47:16 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2014-08-07 09:09:36 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Wed, 6 Aug 2014 23:47:27 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2014-08-07 06:18:05 +0000, charles said:

an F-15

http://www.veooz.com/photos/eHOCn5l.html?view=360

...but this would be a slightly more affordable accessory.

http://player.vimeo.com/video/65863381

http://tinyurl.com/qbvtwjm
(set the res to 1080p, go full screen and turn the back track down)

I wouldn't like to lose one engine in that.

If you look at the first video, they make a point of the single engine
performance which appears to be quite impressive.

I'm blind. I didn't realise it was a video.

A magnificent contraption and I've just told a friend about it.
Knowing him, there is a good chance he will want to buy it.

It's single engined performance is much better than I thought but I
still would not like to have an engine fail just after lift off on a
short take off run. There is one shot which shows how much it yaws.
Pick up a bit of speed and it seems fine.

http://www.aircam.com

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Regards,

Savageduck

On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 15:38:54 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

It's single engined performance is much better than I thought but I
still would not like to have an engine fail just after lift off on a
short take off run. There is one shot which shows how much it yaws.
Pick up a bit of speed and it seems fine.

http://www.aircam.com

One of the problems of single engined flight is the thrust of the
surviving engine (plus the drag of the dead engine) causes the plane
to yaw. This can be controlled if there is sufficient rudder effect. I
noticed that in the video I missed at first, they do talk about rudder
size in relation to engine failure. Nevertheless the video showed that
their low-speed single-engine take off had a noticeable yaw away from
the working engine. OK, it was controllable but it could give you a
nasty surprise if it happened just after you had lifted off on a short
take off run. There is always a 'gotcha!'.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

On 2014-08-07 23:56:12 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

On Thu, 7 Aug 2014 15:38:54 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

It's single engined performance is much better than I thought but I
still would not like to have an engine fail just after lift off on a
short take off run. There is one shot which shows how much it yaws.
Pick up a bit of speed and it seems fine.

http://www.aircam.com

One of the problems of single engined flight is the thrust of the
surviving engine (plus the drag of the dead engine) causes the plane
to yaw. This can be controlled if there is sufficient rudder effect. I
noticed that in the video I missed at first, they do talk about rudder
size in relation to engine failure. Nevertheless the video showed that
their low-speed single-engine take off had a noticeable yaw away from
the working engine. OK, it was controllable but it could give you a
nasty surprise if it happened just after you had lifted off on a short
take off run. There is always a 'gotcha!'.

The important thing is they don't recommend single engine take off,
they just demonstrate it as a capability within it performance
envelope. When the demonstrate going to single engine in flight the
stick adjustment is obvious, and then the pilot talks of adding power
to the running engine to stabilize. As they said, the two important
things contributing to its decent single engine performance is the
close to center line placement of both engines and the large vertical
stabilizer.

The other issue is it would be foolish for any pilot to get off the
ground without having some idea of emergency procedures. The next thing
to look at is the 30 knot stall speed along with the short take off and
landing rolls.

Anyway, with the basic kit configuration you would be looking at $54K.
Upgrade the engines & props and you are looking at $70K-$90K. Add in
$10K for factory assembly to primer finish and you could be in the
$65K-$100K range depending on configuration.

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Regards,

Savageduck