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Old March 7th 05, 02:37 PM
Sander Vesik
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Roxy d'Urban wrote:
On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 13:55:49 +0000, ian lincoln wrote:

ACtually the earth really was created in seven days. The fossils of
dinosaurs etc were planted there to wind up the smart arse


A Christian friend of mine tells me that the garden of Eden story was
actually fabricated as an analogy of sorts.


It probably refers to an historic event of some people being pushed out of
the marshlands of Euphrates and Tigris. To what extent they were the
predecessors of which branch of semitic people (as opposed to having
bequeathed them some of their legends) is an entirely different matter.

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Old March 7th 05, 03:37 PM
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"ian lincoln" wrote in message
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"Carlos" wrote in message
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Owamanga wrote:

On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 07:07:28 +0200, Roxy d'Urban wrote:


On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 14:11:34 +0000, Owamanga wrote:


Elementary school science.

If you wish to define it at elementary level, yes, you are right.

It's a scientific reality regardless of what level it's taught at.


No, that's the thing about science - it's like measuring a coastline.
The harder you look, the more detailed it gets.

................

It is the principle of the concept of Fractals. Did you know that?
Mandelbrot was an geodesic engineer working in an IBM lab. He was making

a
math model to draw the Netherlands coastline and...
... He discover the Fractals!


ACtually the earth really was created in seven days. The fossils of
dinosaurs etc were planted there to wind up the smart arse

The other theory is that the earth was created by the magratheans. It is

a
giant organic supercomputer.It was commissioned by mice. Who were merely
the physical manifestation of a race of intergalactic beings who wanted to
know the answer to the ultimate question life the universe and everything.
Which turns out as it happens to be 42.


Wasn't 42 the wrong answer? Caused by a glitch early in the programme when
all the hairdressers and telephone sanitisers crashed on Earth so usurping
the original inhabitants whe were supposed to evolve into the answer?



Peter

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Old March 7th 05, 03:38 PM
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"ian lincoln" wrote in message
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"Carlos" wrote in message
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Mxsmanic wrote:

Carlos writes:


Glass is a "liquid". A colloidal mixture. Glass is a "liquid" of high
density. It flows very very slowly.


No. Below a certain temperature, it does not flow _at all_.


LOL. At 0 Kelvin, nothing, absolutely nothing, moves, live and etc....


ACtually nothing is solid. You are all figments of my imagination.



Please don't fall asleep Ian, we'd all hate to cease existing...



Peter


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Old March 7th 05, 03:41 PM
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I put the film in a tupperware pot. I don't wrap it in polyethelyne or
aluminum, but that would be needed for long term storage ( 5 years).


Well, the Tupperware is probably something like MDPE these days anyway...


Peter


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Old March 7th 05, 03:46 PM
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In article ,
Bandicoot wrote:

Wasn't 42 the wrong answer? Caused by a glitch early in the programme when
all the hairdressers and telephone sanitisers crashed on Earth so usurping
the original inhabitants whe were supposed to evolve into the answer?


No, they already knew the answer was 42. The Earth was supposed to work out
what the *question* was, and that's what the Golgafrinchans arrival on Earth
messed up.
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Old March 7th 05, 04:01 PM
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Bandicoot wrote:

"Alan Browne" wrote in message
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[SNIP]

I put the film in a tupperware pot. I don't wrap it in polyethelyne or
aluminum, but that would be needed for long term storage ( 5 years).



Well, the Tupperware is probably something like MDPE these days anyway...


The required x-section density is about 2 gm / cm^2 so I don't think the
T-ware is thick enough. I don't recall the Alu density but it would be
something more than tin-foil in thickness (more like 5mm or more).

Cheers,
Alan

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Old March 7th 05, 07:45 PM
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"Chris Brown" wrote in message
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In article ,
Bandicoot wrote:

Wasn't 42 the wrong answer? Caused by a glitch early in the programme
when all the hairdressers and telephone sanitisers crashed on Earth so

usurping
the original inhabitants whe were supposed to evolve into the answer?


No, they already knew the answer was 42. The Earth was supposed to work
out what the *question* was, and that's what the Golgafrinchans arrival on

Earth
messed up.


Oh yes, now I remember. Now, what was the question?...

;-)


Peter


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Old March 7th 05, 10:24 PM
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Not analogy, nor is it history, but metaphor. It's an archetype; any
"perfect" place is. Archetypes become symbols used to make meaning out of
life, mostly on a subconscious level, and only occasionally creeping into
our awareness, and never directly, only through, symbol, which is to say,
metaphor. Carl Jeung and Joseph Campbell say it better than I, but then,
they used more words! ;-)

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"Sander Vesik" wrote in message
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Roxy d'Urban wrote:
On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 13:55:49 +0000, ian lincoln wrote:

ACtually the earth really was created in seven days. The fossils of
dinosaurs etc were planted there to wind up the smart arse


A Christian friend of mine tells me that the garden of Eden story was
actually fabricated as an analogy of sorts.


It probably refers to an historic event of some people being pushed out of
the marshlands of Euphrates and Tigris. To what extent they were the
predecessors of which branch of semitic people (as opposed to having
bequeathed them some of their legends) is an entirely different matter.

--
Sander

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Old March 7th 05, 10:25 PM
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"Carlos" wrote in message
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Glass is a "liquid". A colloidal mixture. Glass is a "liquid" of high
density. It flows very very slowly. It can take from hundreds to a
thousand years (or more) depending on quality of its.
Today we have many types of glass (with high quality too) that have a
great life without deforming. There is equipment and procedures at the
Universities to measure that and estimate the life of a glass.
Glass is different from crystal, that have more durability (millions of
years to form and millions to decompose).
In really glass isn't a liquid is more like a plastic, but glass have
liquid characteristics. You will see some technical explanations on
physics and chemistry books.


http://www.spectrumglass.com/Library...boutGlass.html

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Matt Clara
www.mattclara.com


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Old March 7th 05, 10:33 PM
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"Matt Clara" wrote in message
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Not analogy, nor is it history, but metaphor. It's an archetype; any
"perfect" place is. Archetypes become symbols used to make meaning out of
life, mostly on a subconscious level, and only occasionally creeping into
our awareness, and never directly, only through, symbol, which is to say,
metaphor. Carl Jeung and Joseph Campbell say it better than I, but then,
they used more words! ;-)

--
Regards,
Matt Clara


Archetypes also can be, and often are, real. Archetypes exist for every
concept we seek to understand. If I say "chair," an image flashes in
everyone's mind of what they consider the perfect example of a chair to be.
That chair looks different from person to person, but the image they see is
still the archetype of the concept "chair" for them.

As for the Garden of Eden, I believe that it did exist, and that it will
exist again. But it does not represent perfection for me, just as good as
it got on this Earth.

Walt


 




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