OFFICIAL RESULTS: rec.photo.digital.moderated poll

Kibo informs me that stated that:

In news.groups Lionel wrote:
Kibo informs me that "Steve Young" stated
that:

TOTAL IN FAVOR: 28
TOTAL AGAINST: 12

though it passed with the greater 2 to 1 yes votes
it didn't get the required 100 vote difference, so
YOU LOSE!

It was a forgery, genius. You should learn to read headers.

so you're not ready to accept it as a loss!? grin

You don't understand the difference between a poll & an actual vote?

I hate getting involved, but generally, a pre-RFD survey (if this
is one)

Sort of. It's actually a straw poll to see if there's enough interest in
the group to make it worth the effort to write up a real proposal. I'm
also using it to gauge peoples' feelings on what sort of moderation
policies they'd prefer. Call it a pre-pre-RFD.

shouldn't be expected to get as many participants as a real
Big-8 vote. Historically, that's been demonstrated repeatedly.
Pre-RFD surveys have gotten anywhere between 2-5 times FEWER
responses than actual votes (that's right, rather huge margins).

Exactly.

As such the main conclusion should only be based on the ratio
of FOR:AGAINST. Don't use pre-RFD surveys to predict the outcome
of the actual vote, either, as there are too many unknown variables.
Just use it to decide whether the proposal should go on to the
formal phases.

nods

The troll who forged my email address to his post is also not very good
at counting. Plus, I've had quite a few "in favour, as proposed"
response via email from people who don't wish to be harassed by the
troll for publicly expressing their opinion.

I also hope to run a beta-test version of the proposed group on a
private news server, which will be a big help in debugging the mod-bot,
& will be invaluable in fine-tuning the moderation policies. I strongly
suspect that it will result in a huge "In favour" turn-out when it comes
to a genuine RFD/CFV.

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Alan Browne wrote:


One of the worst, weakest and lamest attempts at forgery that have ever
been seen around here.


Lionel didn't write:

snipped

You have missed a few days! There are others in the running, but I
suppose if you account for time spent concocting the forgery with its
ineffectiveness, then it would top the lot.... by a good margin, now
that I "recalculate".

--
John McWilliams

There is a television ad for M$ Outlook with the sequentia "Confutatis"
from Mozart's Requiem (K 626) rising in the background.


"Where do you want to go today?" flashes on the screen while the chorus
sings: 'Confutatis maledictis, flammis acribus addictis,' ["The damned
and accursed are convicted to the flames of hell."]

Alan Browne wrote:


One of the worst, weakest and lamest attempts at forgery that have ever
been seen around here.


Lionel didn't write:

snipped

No, the guy using MY name, from a hotmail account yet, not even
bothering to spoof the headers to really look like me is pretty pathetic.

Lionel wrote:

I didn't post this. It's a forgery of my email address via the
nym.alias.net anonymous remailer.

Moderation is for pussys. Use a kilfile if sombodys psots make you cry

Wah.

Lionel wrote in


I didn't post this. It's a forgery of my email address via the
nym.alias.net anonymous remailer.

It's not a forgery, tardlet.

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OFFICIAL RESULTS: rec.photo.digital.moderated poll From: "Lionel"
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REC.PHOTO.DIGITAL.MODERATED

APPROVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LANDSLIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
POLL CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OFFICIAL RESULTS AFTER 7 DAYS:

IN FAVOR AS PROPOSED: 22 VOTES
IN FAVOR WITH CHANGES: 6 VOTES
AGAINST: 12 VOTES

TOTAL IN FAVOR: 28
TOTAL AGAINST: 12

BREAKDOWN:

IN FAVOR AS PROPOSED
[snip peoples' email addresses]




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__ __ __ __ O O O
/ / | / | / | / | O o o
(___ ( |(___|(___|(___| o _____________o
)| )| )| ) o.;-----------./|
__/ |__/ | / | __/ // S O A P Y // |
|'-----------'| /
jgs | | /
Smeeter #30-something '-------------'`

Lionel wrote in


Kibo informs me that "Steve Young" stated
that:

"Lionel" wrote in message
. com...

REC.PHOTO.DIGITAL.MODERATED

APPROVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LANDSLIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
POLL CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oops!

OFFICIAL RESULTS AFTER 7 DAYS:

IN FAVOR AS PROPOSED: 22 VOTES
IN FAVOR WITH CHANGES: 6 VOTES
AGAINST: 12 VOTES

TOTAL IN FAVOR: 28
TOTAL AGAINST: 12

though it passed with the greater 2 to 1 yes votes
it didn't get the required 100 vote difference, so
YOU LOSE!

It was a forgery, genius. You should learn to read headers.


It's not a forgery, tardlet. You should learn to read headers.

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__ __ __ __ O O O
/ / | / | / | / | O o o
(___ ( |(___|(___|(___| o _____________o
)| )| )| ) o.;-----------./|
__/ |__/ | / | __/ // S O A P Y // |
|'-----------'| /
jgs | | /
Smeeter #30-something '-------------'`

John McWilliams wrote in
news:0LKCc.92482$Hg2.78266@attbi_s04

Soapy wrote:

Lionel wrote in



Kibo informs me that "Steve Young"
stated that:


"Lionel" wrote in message
y.com...

REC.PHOTO.DIGITAL.MODERATED

APPROVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LANDSLIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
POLL CLOSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oops!


OFFICIAL RESULTS AFTER 7 DAYS:

IN FAVOR AS PROPOSED: 22 VOTES
IN FAVOR WITH CHANGES: 6 VOTES
AGAINST: 12 VOTES

TOTAL IN FAVOR: 28
TOTAL AGAINST: 12

though it passed with the greater 2 to 1 yes votes
it didn't get the required 100 vote difference, so
YOU LOSE!

It was a forgery, genius. You should learn to read headers.



It's not a forgery, tardlet. You should learn to read headers.

Nah, you're flat out wrong, mate.

No, Johnny. This is Lionel's addy: Lionel , not this:
Lionel . It's not a "forgery".

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__ __ __ __ O O O
/ / | / | / | / | O o o
(___ ( |(___|(___|(___| o _____________o
)| )| )| ) o.;-----------./|
__/ |__/ | / | __/ // S O A P Y // |
|'-----------'| /
jgs | | /
Smeeter #30-something '-------------'`

This group gets so much traffic nowadays, it might be a good idea to split it
up. Like have the following groups:

rec.photo.digital.cameras
rec.photo.digital.editing
rec.photo.digital.memory
etc

Gary L. Burnore wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 16:25:13 -0600, Big Red Helmut
wrote:

Lionel wrote:

I didn't post this. It's a forgery of my email address via the
nym.alias.net anonymous remailer.

Moderation is for pussys.

ALt.net tried that for a while. It didn't work.

Caputos twice the man you'll ever be, N3t 4bu5er.



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