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25 Reasons to Choose a P&S Camera Instead Of an Overpriced DSLR (minor typo corrections)



 
 
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Old November 5th 08, 09:13 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.misc,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.equipment.misc
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Default 25 Reasons to Choose a P&S Camera Instead Of an Overpriced DSLR (minor typo corrections)

1. P&S cameras can have more seamless zoom range than any DSLR glass in
existence. (E.g. 9mm f2.7 - 1248mm f/3.5.) There are now some excellent
wide-angle and telephoto (tel-extender) add-on lenses for many makes and models
of P&S cameras. Add either or both of these small additions to your photography
gear and, with some of the new super-zoom P&S cameras, you can far surpass any
range of focal-lengths and apertures that are available or will ever be made for
larger format cameras.

2. P&S cameras can have much wider apertures at longer focal lengths than any
DSLR glass in existence. (E.g. 549mm f/2.4 and 1248mm f/3.5) when used with
high-quality tel-extenders, which by the way, do not reduce the lens' original
aperture one bit. Only DSLRs suffer from that problem due to the manner in which
their tele-converters work. They can also have higher quality full-frame
180-degree circular fisheye and intermediate super-wide-angle views than any
DSLR and its glass in existence. Some excellent fish-eye adapters can be added
to your P&S camera which do not impart any chromatic-aberration nor
edge-softness. When used with a super-zoom P&S camera this allows you to
seamlessly go from as wide as a 9mm (or even wider) 35mm equivalent focal-length
up to the wide-angle setting of the camera's own lens.

3. P&S smaller sensor cameras can and do have wider dynamic range than larger
sensor cameras E.g. a 1/2.5" sized sensor can have a 10.3EV Dynamic Range vs. an
APS-C's typical 7.0-8.0EV Dynamic Range. One quick example:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3142/...7ceaf3a1_o.jpg

4. P&S cameras are cost efficient. Due to the smaller (but excellent) sensors
used in many of them today, the lenses for these cameras are much smaller.
Smaller lenses are easier to manufacture to exacting curvatures and are more
easily corrected for aberrations than larger glass used for DSLRs. This also
allows them to perform better at all apertures rather than DSLR glass which is
only good for one aperture setting per lens. Side by side tests prove that P&S
glass can out-resolve even the best DSLR glass ever made. After all is said and
done, you will spend 1/4th to 1/50th the price that you would have to in order
to get comparable performance in a DSLR camera. When you buy a DSLR you are
investing in a body that will require expensive lenses, hand-grips, external
flash units, heavy tripods, more expensive larger filters, etc. etc. The
outrageous costs of owning a DSLR add up fast after that initial DSLR body
purchase. Camera companies count on this, all the way to their banks.

5. P&S cameras are lightweight and convenient. With just one P&S camera plus one
small wide-angle adapter and one small telephoto adapter weighing just a couple
pounds, you have the same amount of zoom range as would require over 10 to 20
pounds of DSLR body and lenses. You can carry the whole P&S kit in one roomy
pocket of a wind-breaker or jacket. The DSLR kit would require a sturdy
backpack. You also don't require a massive tripod. Large tripods are required to
stabilize the heavy and unbalanced mass of the larger DSLR and its massive
lenses. A P&S camera, being so light, can be used on some of the most
inexpensive, compact, and lightweight tripods with excellent results.

6. P&S cameras are silent. For the more common snap-shooter/photographer, you
will not be barred from using your camera at public events, stage-performances,
and ceremonies. Or when trying to capture candid shots, you won't so easily
alert all those within a block around, from the obnoxious noise that your DSLR
is making, that you are capturing anyone's images. For the more dedicated
wildlife photographer a P&S camera will not endanger your life when
photographing potentially dangerous animals by alerting them to your presence.

7. Some P&S cameras can run the revolutionary CHDK software on them, which
allows for lightning-fast motion detection (literally, lightning fast 45ms
response time, able to capture lightning strikes automatically) so that you may
capture more elusive and shy animals (in still-frame and video) where any
evidence of your presence at all might prevent their appearance. Without the
need of carrying a tethered laptop along or any other hardware into remote
areas--which only limits your range, distance, and time allotted for bringing
back that one-of-a-kind image. It also allows for unattended time-lapse
photography for days and weeks at a time, so that you may capture those unusual
or intriguing subject-studies in nature. E.g. a rare slime-mold's propagation,
that you happened to find in a mountain-ravine, 10-days hike from the nearest
laptop or other time-lapse hardware. (The wealth of astounding new features that
CHDK brings to the creative-table of photography are too extensive to begin to
list them all here. See http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK )

8. P&S cameras can have shutter speeds up to 1/40,000th of a second. See:
http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CameraFeatures Allowing you to capture fast subject
motion in nature (e.g. insect and hummingbird wings) WITHOUT the need of
artificial and image destroying flash, using available light alone. Nor will
their wing shapes be unnaturally distorted from the focal-plane shutter
distortions imparted in any fast moving objects, as when photographed with all
DSLRs. (See focal-plane-shutter-distortions example-image link in #10.)

9. P&S cameras can have full-frame flash-sync up to and including shutter-speeds
of 1/40,000th of a second. E.g.
http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/Samples:_...%26_Flash-Sync without
the use of any expensive and specialized focal-plane shutter flash-units that
must strobe for the full duration of the shutter's curtain to pass over the
frame. The other downside to those kinds of flash units, is that the
light-output is greatly reduced the faster the shutter speed. Any shutter speed
used that is faster than your camera's X-Sync speed is cutting off some of the
flash output. Not so when using a leaf-shutter. The full intensity of the flash
is recorded no matter the shutter speed used. Unless, as in the case of CHDK
capable cameras where the camera's shutter speed can even be faster than the
lightning-fast single burst from a flash unit. E.g. If the flash's duration is
1/10,000 of a second, and your CHDK camera's shutter is set to 1/20,000 of a
second, then it will only record half of that flash output. P&S cameras also
don't require any expensive and dedicated external flash unit. Any of them may
be used with any flash unit made by using an inexpensive slave-trigger that can
compensate for any automated pre-flash conditions. Example:
http://www.adorama.com/SZ23504.html

10. P&S cameras do not suffer from focal-plane shutter drawbacks and
limitations. Causing camera shake, moving-subject image distortions
(focal-plane-shutter distortions, e.g.
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/ch...istortions.jpg
do note the distorted tail-rotor too and its shadow on the ground, 90-degrees
from one another), last-century-slow flash-sync, obnoxiously loud slapping
mirrors and shutter curtains, shorter mechanical life, easily damaged, expensive
repair costs, etc.

11. When doing wildlife photography in remote and rugged areas and harsh
environments, or even when the amateur snap-shooter is trying to take their
vacation photos on a beach or dusty intersection on some city street, you're not
worrying about trying to change lenses in time to get that shot (fewer missed
shots), dropping one in the mud, lake, surf, or on concrete while you do, and
not worrying about ruining all the rest of your photos that day from having
gotten dust & crud on the sensor. For the adventurous photographer you're no
longer weighed down by many many extra pounds of unneeded glass, allowing you to
carry more of the important supplies, like food and water, allowing you to trek
much further than you've ever been able to travel before with your old D/SLR
bricks.

12. Smaller sensors and the larger apertures available allow for the deep DOF
required for excellent macro-photography, WITHOUT the need of any image
destroying, subject irritating, natural-look destroying flash. No DSLR on the
planet can compare in the quality of available-light macro photography that can
be accomplished with nearly any smaller-sensor P&S camera.

13. P&S cameras include video, and some even provide for CD-quality stereo audio
recordings, so that you might capture those rare events in nature where a
still-frame alone could never prove all those "scientists" wrong. E.g. recording
the paw-drumming communication patterns of eusocial-living field-mice. With your
P&S video-capable camera in your pocket you won't miss that once-in-a-lifetime
chance to record some unexpected event, like the passage of a bright meteor in
the sky in daytime, a mid-air explosion, or any other newsworthy event. Imagine
the gaping hole in our history of the Hindenberg if there were no film cameras
there at the time. The mystery of how it exploded would have never been solved.
Or the amateur 8mm film of the shooting of President Kennedy. Your video-ready
P&S camera being with you all the time might capture something that will be a
valuable part of human history one day.

14. P&S cameras have 100% viewfinder coverage that exactly matches your final
image. No important bits lost, and no chance of ruining your composition by
trying to "guess" what will show up in the final image. With the ability to
overlay live RGB-histograms, and under/over-exposure area alerts (and dozens of
other important shooting data) directly on your electronic viewfinder display
you are also not going to guess if your exposure might be right this time. Nor
do you have to remove your eye from the view of your subject to check some
external LCD histogram display, ruining your chances of getting that perfect
shot when it happens.

15. P&S cameras can and do focus in lower-light (which is common in natural
settings) than any DSLRs in existence, due to electronic viewfinders and sensors
that can be increased in gain for framing and focusing purposes as light-levels
drop. Some P&S cameras can even take images (AND videos) in total darkness by
using IR illumination alone. (See: Sony) No other multi-purpose cameras are
capable of taking still-frame and videos of nocturnal wildlife as easily nor as
well. Shooting videos and still-frames of nocturnal animals in the total-dark,
without disturbing their natural behavior by the use of flash, from 90 ft. away
with a 549mm f/2.4 lens is not only possible, it's been done, many times, by
myself. (An interesting and true story: one wildlife photographer was nearly
stomped to death by an irate moose that attacked where it saw his camera's flash
come from.)

16. Without the need to use flash in all situations, and a P&S's nearly 100%
silent operation, you are not disturbing your wildlife, neither scaring it away
nor changing their natural behavior with your existence. Nor, as previously
mentioned, drawing its defensive behavior in your direction. You are recording
nature as it is, and should be, not some artificial human-changed distortion of
reality and nature.

17. Nature photography requires that the image be captured with the greatest
degree of accuracy possible. NO focal-plane shutter in existence, with its
inherent focal-plane-shutter distortions imparted on any moving subject will
EVER capture any moving subject in nature 100% accurately. A leaf-shutter or
electronic shutter, as is found in ALL P&S cameras, will capture your moving
subject in nature with 100% accuracy. Your P&S photography will no longer lead a
biologist nor other scientist down another DSLR-distorted path of non-reality.

18. Some P&S cameras have shutter-lag times that are even shorter than all the
popular DSLRs, due to the fact that they don't have to move those agonizingly
slow and loud mirrors and shutter curtains in time before the shot is recorded.
In the hands of an experienced photographer that will always rely on prefocusing
their camera, there is no hit & miss auto-focusing that happens on all
auto-focus systems, DSLRs included. This allows you to take advantage of the
faster shutter response times of P&S cameras. Any pro worth his salt knows that
if you really want to get every shot, you don't depend on automatic anything in
any camera.

19. An electronic viewfinder, as exists in all P&S cameras, can accurately relay
the camera's shutter-speed in real-time. Giving you a 100% accurate preview of
what your final subject is going to look like when shot at 3 seconds or
1/20,000th of a second. Your soft waterfall effects, or the crisp sharp outlines
of your stopped-motion hummingbird wings will be 100% accurately depicted in
your viewfinder before you even record the shot. What you see in a P&S camera is
truly what you get. You won't have to guess in advance at what shutter speed to
use to obtain those artistic effects or those scientifically accurate nature
studies that you require or that your client requires. When testing CHDK P&S
cameras that could have shutter speeds as fast as 1/40,000th of a second, I was
amazed that I could half-depress the shutter and watch in the viewfinder as a
Dremel-Drill's 30,000 rpm rotating disk was stopped in crisp detail in real
time, without ever having taken an example shot yet. Similarly true when
lowering shutter speeds for milky-water effects when shooting rapids and falls,
instantly seeing the effect in your viewfinder. Poor DSLR-trolls will never
realize what they are missing with their anciently slow focal-plane shutters and
wholly inaccurate optical viewfinders.

20. P&S cameras can obtain the very same bokeh (out of focus foreground and
background) as any DSLR by just increasing your focal length, through use of its
own built-in super-zoom lens or attaching a high-quality telextender on the
front. Just back up from your subject more than you usually would with a DSLR.
Framing and the included background is relative to the subject at the time and
has nothing at all to do with the kind of camera and lens in use. Your f/ratio
(which determines your depth-of-field), is a computation of focal-length divided
by aperture diameter. Increase the focal-length and you make your DOF shallower.
No different than opening up the aperture to accomplish the same. The two
methods are identically related where DOF is concerned.

21. P&S cameras will have perfectly fine noise-free images at lower ISOs with
just as much resolution as any DSLR camera. Experienced Pros grew up on ISO25
and ISO64 film all their lives. They won't even care if their P&S camera can't
go above ISO400 without noise. An added bonus is that the P&S camera can have
larger apertures at longer focal-lengths than any DSLR in existence. The time
when you really need a fast lens to prevent camera-shake that gets amplified at
those focal-lengths. Even at low ISOs you can take perfectly fine hand-held
images at super-zoom settings. Whereas the DSLR, with its very small apertures
at long focal lengths require ISOs above 3200 to obtain the same results. They
need high ISOs, you don't. If you really require low-noise high ISOs, there are
some excellent models of Fuji P&S cameras that do have noise-free images up to
ISO1600 and more.

22. Don't for one minute think that the price of your camera will in any way
determine the quality of your photography. Any of the newer cameras of around
$100 or more are plenty good for nearly any talented photographer today. IF they
have talent to begin with. A REAL pro can take an award winning photograph with
a cardboard Brownie Box camera made a century ago. If you can't take excellent
photos on a P&S camera then you won't be able to get good photos on a DSLR
either. Never blame your inability to obtain a good photograph on the kind of
camera that you own. Those who claim they NEED a DSLR are only fooling
themselves and all others. These are the same people that buy a new camera every
year, each time thinking, "Oh, if I only had the right camera, a better camera,
better lenses, faster lenses, then I will be a great photographer!" Camera
company's love these people. They'll never be able to get a camera that will
make their photography better, because they never were a good photographer to
begin with. The irony is that by them thinking that they only need to throw
money at the problem, they'll never look in the mirror to see what the real
problem is. They'll NEVER become good photographers. Perhaps this is why these
self-proclaimed "pros" hate P&S cameras so much. P&S cameras instantly reveal to
them their ****-poor photography skills.

23. Have you ever had the fun of showing some of your exceptional P&S
photography to some self-proclaimed "Pro" who uses $30,000 worth of camera gear.
They are so impressed that they must know how you did it. You smile and tell
them, "Oh, I just use a $150 P&S camera." Don't you just love the look on their
face? A half-life of self-doubt, the realization of all that lost money, and a
sadness just courses through every fiber of their being. Wondering why they
can't get photographs as good after they spent all that time and money. Get good
on your P&S camera and you too can enjoy this fun experience.

24. Did we mention portability yet? I think we did, but it is worth mentioning
the importance of this a few times. A camera in your pocket that is instantly
ready to get any shot during any part of the day will get more award-winning
photographs than that DSLR gear that's sitting back at home, collecting dust,
and waiting to be loaded up into that expensive back-pack or camera bag, hoping
that you'll lug it around again some day.

25. A good P&S camera is a good theft deterrent. When traveling you are not
advertising to the world that you are carrying $20,000 around with you. That's
like having a sign on your back saying, "PLEASE MUG ME! I'M THIS STUPID AND I
DESERVE IT!" Keep a small P&S camera in your pocket and only take it out when
needed. You'll have a better chance of returning home with all your photos. And
should you accidentally lose your P&S camera you're not out $20,000. They are
inexpensive to replace.

There are many more reasons to add to this list but this should be more than
enough for even the most unaware person to realize that P&S cameras are just
better, all around. No doubt about it.

The phenomenon of everyone yelling "You NEED a DSLR!" can be summed up in just
one short phrase:

"If even 5 billion people are saying and doing a foolish thing, it remains a
foolish thing."

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Old November 5th 08, 09:50 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.misc,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.equipment.misc
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Default 25 Reasons to Choose a P&S Camera Instead Of an Overpriced DSLR (minor typo corrections)

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Thats fantastic, all my D-SLR gear is going.

Just one thing, can you give me a few links to all these amazing wonderful
shots you are taking so I can enjoy them too.

Thanks.

Pete

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Old November 5th 08, 01:26 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.misc,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.equipment.misc
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Default 25 Reasons to Choose a P&S Camera Instead Of an Overpriced DSLR (minor typo corrections)

Wow. Thanks to this post, I expect to see all those big white and black
lenses at the football games, PJ events, etc start to disappear and soon!
Now that they know that a simple P&S will do a better job at capturing pro
football than their silly SLRs, why would they keep them?

"A REAL-Pro Photographer" wrote in message
...
1. P&S cameras can have more seamless zoom range than any DSLR glass in
existence. (E.g. 9mm f2.7 - 1248mm f/3.5.) There are now some excellent
wide-angle and telephoto (tel-extender) add-on lenses for many makes and
models
of P&S cameras. Add either or both of these small additions to your
photography
gear and, with some of the new super-zoom P&S cameras, you can far surpass
any
range of focal-lengths and apertures that are available or will ever be
made for
larger format cameras.

2. P&S cameras can have much wider apertures at longer focal lengths than
any
DSLR glass in existence. (E.g. 549mm f/2.4 and 1248mm f/3.5) when used
with
high-quality tel-extenders, which by the way, do not reduce the lens'
original
aperture one bit. Only DSLRs suffer from that problem due to the manner in
which
their tele-converters work. They can also have higher quality full-frame
180-degree circular fisheye and intermediate super-wide-angle views than
any
DSLR and its glass in existence. Some excellent fish-eye adapters can be
added
to your P&S camera which do not impart any chromatic-aberration nor
edge-softness. When used with a super-zoom P&S camera this allows you to
seamlessly go from as wide as a 9mm (or even wider) 35mm equivalent
focal-length
up to the wide-angle setting of the camera's own lens.

3. P&S smaller sensor cameras can and do have wider dynamic range than
larger
sensor cameras E.g. a 1/2.5" sized sensor can have a 10.3EV Dynamic Range
vs. an
APS-C's typical 7.0-8.0EV Dynamic Range. One quick example:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3142/...7ceaf3a1_o.jpg

4. P&S cameras are cost efficient. Due to the smaller (but excellent)
sensors
used in many of them today, the lenses for these cameras are much smaller.
Smaller lenses are easier to manufacture to exacting curvatures and are
more
easily corrected for aberrations than larger glass used for DSLRs. This
also
allows them to perform better at all apertures rather than DSLR glass
which is
only good for one aperture setting per lens. Side by side tests prove that
P&S
glass can out-resolve even the best DSLR glass ever made. After all is
said and
done, you will spend 1/4th to 1/50th the price that you would have to in
order
to get comparable performance in a DSLR camera. When you buy a DSLR you
are
investing in a body that will require expensive lenses, hand-grips,
external
flash units, heavy tripods, more expensive larger filters, etc. etc. The
outrageous costs of owning a DSLR add up fast after that initial DSLR body
purchase. Camera companies count on this, all the way to their banks.

5. P&S cameras are lightweight and convenient. With just one P&S camera
plus one
small wide-angle adapter and one small telephoto adapter weighing just a
couple
pounds, you have the same amount of zoom range as would require over 10 to
20
pounds of DSLR body and lenses. You can carry the whole P&S kit in one
roomy
pocket of a wind-breaker or jacket. The DSLR kit would require a sturdy
backpack. You also don't require a massive tripod. Large tripods are
required to
stabilize the heavy and unbalanced mass of the larger DSLR and its massive
lenses. A P&S camera, being so light, can be used on some of the most
inexpensive, compact, and lightweight tripods with excellent results.

6. P&S cameras are silent. For the more common snap-shooter/photographer,
you
will not be barred from using your camera at public events,
stage-performances,
and ceremonies. Or when trying to capture candid shots, you won't so
easily
alert all those within a block around, from the obnoxious noise that your
DSLR
is making, that you are capturing anyone's images. For the more dedicated
wildlife photographer a P&S camera will not endanger your life when
photographing potentially dangerous animals by alerting them to your
presence.

7. Some P&S cameras can run the revolutionary CHDK software on them, which
allows for lightning-fast motion detection (literally, lightning fast 45ms
response time, able to capture lightning strikes automatically) so that
you may
capture more elusive and shy animals (in still-frame and video) where any
evidence of your presence at all might prevent their appearance. Without
the
need of carrying a tethered laptop along or any other hardware into remote
areas--which only limits your range, distance, and time allotted for
bringing
back that one-of-a-kind image. It also allows for unattended time-lapse
photography for days and weeks at a time, so that you may capture those
unusual
or intriguing subject-studies in nature. E.g. a rare slime-mold's
propagation,
that you happened to find in a mountain-ravine, 10-days hike from the
nearest
laptop or other time-lapse hardware. (The wealth of astounding new
features that
CHDK brings to the creative-table of photography are too extensive to
begin to
list them all here. See http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK )

8. P&S cameras can have shutter speeds up to 1/40,000th of a second. See:
http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CameraFeatures Allowing you to capture fast
subject
motion in nature (e.g. insect and hummingbird wings) WITHOUT the need of
artificial and image destroying flash, using available light alone. Nor
will
their wing shapes be unnaturally distorted from the focal-plane shutter
distortions imparted in any fast moving objects, as when photographed with
all
DSLRs. (See focal-plane-shutter-distortions example-image link in #10.)

9. P&S cameras can have full-frame flash-sync up to and including
shutter-speeds
of 1/40,000th of a second. E.g.
http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/Samples:_...%26_Flash-Sync
without
the use of any expensive and specialized focal-plane shutter flash-units
that
must strobe for the full duration of the shutter's curtain to pass over
the
frame. The other downside to those kinds of flash units, is that the
light-output is greatly reduced the faster the shutter speed. Any shutter
speed
used that is faster than your camera's X-Sync speed is cutting off some of
the
flash output. Not so when using a leaf-shutter. The full intensity of the
flash
is recorded no matter the shutter speed used. Unless, as in the case of
CHDK
capable cameras where the camera's shutter speed can even be faster than
the
lightning-fast single burst from a flash unit. E.g. If the flash's
duration is
1/10,000 of a second, and your CHDK camera's shutter is set to 1/20,000 of
a
second, then it will only record half of that flash output. P&S cameras
also
don't require any expensive and dedicated external flash unit. Any of them
may
be used with any flash unit made by using an inexpensive slave-trigger
that can
compensate for any automated pre-flash conditions. Example:
http://www.adorama.com/SZ23504.html

10. P&S cameras do not suffer from focal-plane shutter drawbacks and
limitations. Causing camera shake, moving-subject image distortions
(focal-plane-shutter distortions, e.g.
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/ch...istortions.jpg
do note the distorted tail-rotor too and its shadow on the ground,
90-degrees
from one another), last-century-slow flash-sync, obnoxiously loud slapping
mirrors and shutter curtains, shorter mechanical life, easily damaged,
expensive
repair costs, etc.

11. When doing wildlife photography in remote and rugged areas and harsh
environments, or even when the amateur snap-shooter is trying to take
their
vacation photos on a beach or dusty intersection on some city street,
you're not
worrying about trying to change lenses in time to get that shot (fewer
missed
shots), dropping one in the mud, lake, surf, or on concrete while you do,
and
not worrying about ruining all the rest of your photos that day from
having
gotten dust & crud on the sensor. For the adventurous photographer you're
no
longer weighed down by many many extra pounds of unneeded glass, allowing
you to
carry more of the important supplies, like food and water, allowing you to
trek
much further than you've ever been able to travel before with your old
D/SLR
bricks.

12. Smaller sensors and the larger apertures available allow for the deep
DOF
required for excellent macro-photography, WITHOUT the need of any image
destroying, subject irritating, natural-look destroying flash. No DSLR on
the
planet can compare in the quality of available-light macro photography
that can
be accomplished with nearly any smaller-sensor P&S camera.

13. P&S cameras include video, and some even provide for CD-quality stereo
audio
recordings, so that you might capture those rare events in nature where a
still-frame alone could never prove all those "scientists" wrong. E.g.
recording
the paw-drumming communication patterns of eusocial-living field-mice.
With your
P&S video-capable camera in your pocket you won't miss that
once-in-a-lifetime
chance to record some unexpected event, like the passage of a bright
meteor in
the sky in daytime, a mid-air explosion, or any other newsworthy event.
Imagine
the gaping hole in our history of the Hindenberg if there were no film
cameras
there at the time. The mystery of how it exploded would have never been
solved.
Or the amateur 8mm film of the shooting of President Kennedy. Your
video-ready
P&S camera being with you all the time might capture something that will
be a
valuable part of human history one day.

14. P&S cameras have 100% viewfinder coverage that exactly matches your
final
image. No important bits lost, and no chance of ruining your composition
by
trying to "guess" what will show up in the final image. With the ability
to
overlay live RGB-histograms, and under/over-exposure area alerts (and
dozens of
other important shooting data) directly on your electronic viewfinder
display
you are also not going to guess if your exposure might be right this time.
Nor
do you have to remove your eye from the view of your subject to check some
external LCD histogram display, ruining your chances of getting that
perfect
shot when it happens.

15. P&S cameras can and do focus in lower-light (which is common in
natural
settings) than any DSLRs in existence, due to electronic viewfinders and
sensors
that can be increased in gain for framing and focusing purposes as
light-levels
drop. Some P&S cameras can even take images (AND videos) in total darkness
by
using IR illumination alone. (See: Sony) No other multi-purpose cameras
are
capable of taking still-frame and videos of nocturnal wildlife as easily
nor as
well. Shooting videos and still-frames of nocturnal animals in the
total-dark,
without disturbing their natural behavior by the use of flash, from 90 ft.
away
with a 549mm f/2.4 lens is not only possible, it's been done, many times,
by
myself. (An interesting and true story: one wildlife photographer was
nearly
stomped to death by an irate moose that attacked where it saw his camera's
flash
come from.)

16. Without the need to use flash in all situations, and a P&S's nearly
100%
silent operation, you are not disturbing your wildlife, neither scaring it
away
nor changing their natural behavior with your existence. Nor, as
previously
mentioned, drawing its defensive behavior in your direction. You are
recording
nature as it is, and should be, not some artificial human-changed
distortion of
reality and nature.

17. Nature photography requires that the image be captured with the
greatest
degree of accuracy possible. NO focal-plane shutter in existence, with its
inherent focal-plane-shutter distortions imparted on any moving subject
will
EVER capture any moving subject in nature 100% accurately. A leaf-shutter
or
electronic shutter, as is found in ALL P&S cameras, will capture your
moving
subject in nature with 100% accuracy. Your P&S photography will no longer
lead a
biologist nor other scientist down another DSLR-distorted path of
non-reality.

18. Some P&S cameras have shutter-lag times that are even shorter than all
the
popular DSLRs, due to the fact that they don't have to move those
agonizingly
slow and loud mirrors and shutter curtains in time before the shot is
recorded.
In the hands of an experienced photographer that will always rely on
prefocusing
their camera, there is no hit & miss auto-focusing that happens on all
auto-focus systems, DSLRs included. This allows you to take advantage of
the
faster shutter response times of P&S cameras. Any pro worth his salt knows
that
if you really want to get every shot, you don't depend on automatic
anything in
any camera.

19. An electronic viewfinder, as exists in all P&S cameras, can accurately
relay
the camera's shutter-speed in real-time. Giving you a 100% accurate
preview of
what your final subject is going to look like when shot at 3 seconds or
1/20,000th of a second. Your soft waterfall effects, or the crisp sharp
outlines
of your stopped-motion hummingbird wings will be 100% accurately depicted
in
your viewfinder before you even record the shot. What you see in a P&S
camera is
truly what you get. You won't have to guess in advance at what shutter
speed to
use to obtain those artistic effects or those scientifically accurate
nature
studies that you require or that your client requires. When testing CHDK
P&S
cameras that could have shutter speeds as fast as 1/40,000th of a second,
I was
amazed that I could half-depress the shutter and watch in the viewfinder
as a
Dremel-Drill's 30,000 rpm rotating disk was stopped in crisp detail in
real
time, without ever having taken an example shot yet. Similarly true when
lowering shutter speeds for milky-water effects when shooting rapids and
falls,
instantly seeing the effect in your viewfinder. Poor DSLR-trolls will
never
realize what they are missing with their anciently slow focal-plane
shutters and
wholly inaccurate optical viewfinders.

20. P&S cameras can obtain the very same bokeh (out of focus foreground
and
background) as any DSLR by just increasing your focal length, through use
of its
own built-in super-zoom lens or attaching a high-quality telextender on
the
front. Just back up from your subject more than you usually would with a
DSLR.
Framing and the included background is relative to the subject at the time
and
has nothing at all to do with the kind of camera and lens in use. Your
f/ratio
(which determines your depth-of-field), is a computation of focal-length
divided
by aperture diameter. Increase the focal-length and you make your DOF
shallower.
No different than opening up the aperture to accomplish the same. The two
methods are identically related where DOF is concerned.

21. P&S cameras will have perfectly fine noise-free images at lower ISOs
with
just as much resolution as any DSLR camera. Experienced Pros grew up on
ISO25
and ISO64 film all their lives. They won't even care if their P&S camera
can't
go above ISO400 without noise. An added bonus is that the P&S camera can
have
larger apertures at longer focal-lengths than any DSLR in existence. The
time
when you really need a fast lens to prevent camera-shake that gets
amplified at
those focal-lengths. Even at low ISOs you can take perfectly fine
hand-held
images at super-zoom settings. Whereas the DSLR, with its very small
apertures
at long focal lengths require ISOs above 3200 to obtain the same results.
They
need high ISOs, you don't. If you really require low-noise high ISOs,
there are
some excellent models of Fuji P&S cameras that do have noise-free images
up to
ISO1600 and more.

22. Don't for one minute think that the price of your camera will in any
way
determine the quality of your photography. Any of the newer cameras of
around
$100 or more are plenty good for nearly any talented photographer today.
IF they
have talent to begin with. A REAL pro can take an award winning photograph
with
a cardboard Brownie Box camera made a century ago. If you can't take
excellent
photos on a P&S camera then you won't be able to get good photos on a DSLR
either. Never blame your inability to obtain a good photograph on the kind
of
camera that you own. Those who claim they NEED a DSLR are only fooling
themselves and all others. These are the same people that buy a new camera
every
year, each time thinking, "Oh, if I only had the right camera, a better
camera,
better lenses, faster lenses, then I will be a great photographer!" Camera
company's love these people. They'll never be able to get a camera that
will
make their photography better, because they never were a good photographer
to
begin with. The irony is that by them thinking that they only need to
throw
money at the problem, they'll never look in the mirror to see what the
real
problem is. They'll NEVER become good photographers. Perhaps this is why
these
self-proclaimed "pros" hate P&S cameras so much. P&S cameras instantly
reveal to
them their ****-poor photography skills.

23. Have you ever had the fun of showing some of your exceptional P&S
photography to some self-proclaimed "Pro" who uses $30,000 worth of camera
gear.
They are so impressed that they must know how you did it. You smile and
tell
them, "Oh, I just use a $150 P&S camera." Don't you just love the look on
their
face? A half-life of self-doubt, the realization of all that lost money,
and a
sadness just courses through every fiber of their being. Wondering why
they
can't get photographs as good after they spent all that time and money.
Get good
on your P&S camera and you too can enjoy this fun experience.

24. Did we mention portability yet? I think we did, but it is worth
mentioning
the importance of this a few times. A camera in your pocket that is
instantly
ready to get any shot during any part of the day will get more
award-winning
photographs than that DSLR gear that's sitting back at home, collecting
dust,
and waiting to be loaded up into that expensive back-pack or camera bag,
hoping
that you'll lug it around again some day.

25. A good P&S camera is a good theft deterrent. When traveling you are
not
advertising to the world that you are carrying $20,000 around with you.
That's
like having a sign on your back saying, "PLEASE MUG ME! I'M THIS STUPID
AND I
DESERVE IT!" Keep a small P&S camera in your pocket and only take it out
when
needed. You'll have a better chance of returning home with all your
photos. And
should you accidentally lose your P&S camera you're not out $20,000. They
are
inexpensive to replace.

There are many more reasons to add to this list but this should be more
than
enough for even the most unaware person to realize that P&S cameras are
just
better, all around. No doubt about it.

The phenomenon of everyone yelling "You NEED a DSLR!" can be summed up in
just
one short phrase:

"If even 5 billion people are saying and doing a foolish thing, it remains
a
foolish thing."


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Old November 5th 08, 01:46 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.misc,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.equipment.misc
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On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 07:26:30 -0500, "B?wser" wrote:

Wow. Thanks to this post, I expect to see all those big white and black
lenses at the football games, PJ events, etc start to disappear and soon!
Now that they know that a simple P&S will do a better job at capturing pro
football than their silly SLRs, why would they keep them?


As they improve and as more people realize how much more efficient they are for
all purposes, then yes you will see D/SLRs disappear. Just as you saw all
view-cameras disappear nearly a century ago at all major events.

Get it?

If not, then perhaps you should stand in the bleachers at the next sporting
event holding a view-camera on a heavy wooden tripod, with your flash-powder
tray in the other hand, both lofted high above your head. Then maybe you'll
begin to understand why it's only a matter of time, maybe only a couple years,
before your beloved, though ancient, D/SLR designs completely disappear from
common usage.

Get it yet?

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Old November 5th 08, 02:48 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.misc,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.equipment.misc
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"B?wser" wrote in message
...
Wow. Thanks to this post, I expect to see all those big white and black
lenses at the football games, PJ events, etc start to disappear and soon!
Now that they know that a simple P&S will do a better job at capturing
pro football than their silly SLRs, why would they keep them?


Silly, it's to impress the girls...

Toby


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Old November 5th 08, 02:53 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.misc,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.equipment.misc
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On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:46:12 -0600, Carl_Devonston
wrote:

Then maybe you'll
begin to understand why it's only a matter of time, maybe only a couple years,
before your beloved, though ancient, D/SLR designs completely disappear from
common usage.

You can have my gun, but you'll have to pry my dslr from my cold,
dead, hands.


--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
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Old November 5th 08, 03:08 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.misc,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.equipment.misc
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On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:46:12 -0600, Carl_Devonston
wrote:

On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 07:26:30 -0500, "B?wser" wrote:

Wow. Thanks to this post, I expect to see all those big white and black
lenses at the football games, PJ events, etc start to disappear and soon!
Now that they know that a simple P&S will do a better job at capturing pro
football than their silly SLRs, why would they keep them?


As they improve and as more people realize how much more efficient they are for
all purposes, then yes you will see D/SLRs disappear. Just as you saw all
view-cameras disappear nearly a century ago at all major events.

Get it?


You may see the current crop of DSLRs disappear years from now. But
you definitely won't see them replaced with P&S. Not if any serious
sports photographer wants to keep their job. But you'll see
convergance, which you're already seeing. DSLRs that have live-view,
HD video recording, etc. Things that were first introduced in P&S and
can be applied to a DSLR. Hell, you may even see electronic shutters
although those compromise image quality so maybe not. But if they can
figure out how to do them without compromising image quality, then why
not?

Steve
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Old November 5th 08, 03:31 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.misc,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.equipment.misc
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"Carl_Devonston" wrote in message
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On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 07:26:30 -0500, "B?wser" wrote:

Wow. Thanks to this post, I expect to see all those big white and black
lenses at the football games, PJ events, etc start to disappear and soon!
Now that they know that a simple P&S will do a better job at capturing
pro
football than their silly SLRs, why would they keep them?


As they improve and as more people realize how much more efficient they
are for
all purposes, then yes you will see D/SLRs disappear. Just as you saw all
view-cameras disappear nearly a century ago at all major events.

Get it?


Yeah, sure. Call me when you see a Panasonic FZ28 show up on the sidelines
of a night football game. I shoot HS sports in weak lighting, and I need to
shoot at ISO 6400. Yeah. I get it.


If not, then perhaps you should stand in the bleachers at the next
sporting
event holding a view-camera on a heavy wooden tripod, with your
flash-powder
tray in the other hand, both lofted high above your head. Then maybe
you'll
begin to understand why it's only a matter of time, maybe only a couple
years,
before your beloved, though ancient, D/SLR designs completely disappear
from
common usage.

Get it yet?


And utterly pointless comparison. I'm not holding my breath.



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Old November 5th 08, 03:33 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.misc,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.equipment.misc
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"tony cooper" wrote in message
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On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:46:12 -0600, Carl_Devonston
wrote:

Then maybe you'll
begin to understand why it's only a matter of time, maybe only a couple
years,
before your beloved, though ancient, D/SLR designs completely disappear
from
common usage.

You can have my gun, but you'll have to pry my dslr from my cold,
dead, hands.


DSLRs will disappear eventually, all tech changes. But to claim that they
can replace them now? Kinda silly...

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Old November 5th 08, 03:50 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.misc,rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.equipment.misc
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On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 09:33:35 -0500, B?wser wrote:


"tony cooper" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:46:12 -0600, Carl_Devonston
wrote:

Then maybe you'll
begin to understand why it's only a matter of time, maybe only a couple
years,
before your beloved, though ancient, D/SLR designs completely disappear
from
common usage.

You can have my gun, but you'll have to pry my dslr from my cold,
dead, hands.


DSLRs will disappear eventually, all tech changes. But to claim that they
can replace them now? Kinda silly...


Yeah, kinda like those idiots 3 years ago that said digital cameras would
replace film cameras as being more popular. What idiots! What nonsense! What
fools! Digital replacing film? That's impossible. That will take at least 2 more
decades before we even get to the point of thinking like that!



 




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