Another nail in the view camera coffin?

I feel compelled to concur. It was interesting at a recent
street fair where I showed my work how many people digital
camera users "dslr" in hand stopped to look at my LF
prints. I sensed that they were rather dumbfounded at the
by the imagery, I also sensed a certain envy.
But I think there was also a certain amount of appreciation.


In article ,
"Vladamir30" wrote:

What coffin? We have more choices in cameras than we have ever had before,
it seems like every six months or so there's a new camera on the market. We
have plenty of choices in film (and maybe some day digital backs will become
an affordable alternative), there are at least five large format groups on
the internet that enjoy active and spirited participation, you can't buy
several brands and sizes of cameras without a wait of several years yet the
makers keep making them and buyers keep buying them, every workshop I attend
is filled with people using large format cameras, Schneider just brought a
whole new line of large format lenses on the market, Cooke has two very
expensive new lenses, etc. etc. I think large format is more popular than
ever among serious amateurs so if there's a large format coffin out there I
must have missed the funeral.

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"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

I feel compelled to concur. It was interesting at a recent
street fair where I showed my work how many people digital
camera users "dslr" in hand stopped to look at my LF
prints. I sensed that they were rather dumbfounded at the
by the imagery, I also sensed a certain envy.
But I think there was also a certain amount of appreciation.


In article ,
"Vladamir30" wrote:

What coffin? We have more choices in cameras than we have ever had before,
it seems like every six months or so there's a new camera on the market. We
have plenty of choices in film (and maybe some day digital backs will become
an affordable alternative), there are at least five large format groups on
the internet that enjoy active and spirited participation, you can't buy
several brands and sizes of cameras without a wait of several years yet the
makers keep making them and buyers keep buying them, every workshop I attend
is filled with people using large format cameras, Schneider just brought a
whole new line of large format lenses on the market, Cooke has two very
expensive new lenses, etc. etc. I think large format is more popular than
ever among serious amateurs so if there's a large format coffin out there I
must have missed the funeral.

--
LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

I have a couple of issues with this post. The first is you out of hand dismissal
of the film size as a reason for my people use LF. The second is that there
is any kind of a coffin that LF photography is in. I spoke with the midwest sales
manager for Calumet Camera and he informed me that LF photography is more popular
now then it's been in a long time. The popularity amoung amatures is growing as are
camera, film and accessory sales.

Have you figured out a way to implement the rise and fall with PS?? If you ever figure
out a method for shifting the plane of focus after the fact make sure you
get a patent on it right a way!! There is a huge market for a process that that can
take an out of focus image and bringing it into focus.

After that you can figure out how to add the tonality and detail to an image that is
possible only with LF.

PS - I realize that I'm biting on a troll since the "perspective correction" has been
available with PS and documented for years.

Frank

Robert Feinman wrote:
: Leaving aside film size, the two features that view cameras still
: have over other formats are the ability to adjust perspective and
: the plane of focus.
: By using a digital editor one can generate the same perspective
: effects from an image taken with a conventional camera afterwards.

: I've been playing with this feature in Photoshop and have put up
: an additional tip about this on my web site. This one shows the
: creative uses the extreme perspective adjustments can yield.
: Just follow the tips link on my home page, if you are interested.

: I still haven't solved the plane of focus problem, however...

: --
: Robert D Feinman
: Landscapes, Cityscapes and Panoramic Photographs
: http://robertdfeinman.com
: mail:

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I have a couple of issues with this post. The first is you out of hand dismissal
of the film size as a reason for my people use LF. The second is that there
is any kind of a coffin that LF photography is in. I spoke with the midwest sales
manager for Calumet Camera and he informed me that LF photography is more popular
now then it's been in a long time. The popularity amoung amatures is growing as are
camera, film and accessory sales.

Have you figured out a way to implement the rise and fall with PS?? If you ever figure
out a method for shifting the plane of focus after the fact make sure you
get a patent on it right a way!! There is a huge market for a process that that can
take an out of focus image and bringing it into focus.

After that you can figure out how to add the tonality and detail to an image that is
possible only with LF.

PS - I realize that I'm biting on a troll since the "perspective correction" has been
available with PS and documented for years.

Frank

Robert Feinman wrote:
: Leaving aside film size, the two features that view cameras still
: have over other formats are the ability to adjust perspective and
: the plane of focus.
: By using a digital editor one can generate the same perspective
: effects from an image taken with a conventional camera afterwards.

: I've been playing with this feature in Photoshop and have put up
: an additional tip about this on my web site. This one shows the
: creative uses the extreme perspective adjustments can yield.
: Just follow the tips link on my home page, if you are interested.

: I still haven't solved the plane of focus problem, however...

: --
: Robert D Feinman
: Landscapes, Cityscapes and Panoramic Photographs
: http://robertdfeinman.com
: mail:

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"Frank Pittel" posted:
"...
There is a huge market for a process that that can
take an out of focus image and bringing it into focus.
...."

Take a look at 'Convolution.' and 'DeConvolution.' The Image-Processing (mathematics)
types have been doing it for years.

One example would be Reindeer Graphics' "Refocus" tool in the Optipix 3 package ...

http://www.reindeergraphics.com/

http://www.reindeergraphics.com/opti.../refocus.shtml

"Frank Pittel" posted:
"...
There is a huge market for a process that that can
take an out of focus image and bringing it into focus.
...."

Take a look at 'Convolution.' and 'DeConvolution.' The Image-Processing (mathematics)
types have been doing it for years.

One example would be Reindeer Graphics' "Refocus" tool in the Optipix 3 package ...

http://www.reindeergraphics.com/

http://www.reindeergraphics.com/opti.../refocus.shtml

"Frank Pittel" posted:
"...
There is a huge market for a process that that can
take an out of focus image and bringing it into focus.
...."

Take a look at 'Convolution.' and 'DeConvolution.' The Image-Processing (mathematics)
types have been doing it for years.

One example would be Reindeer Graphics' "Refocus" tool in the Optipix 3 package ...

http://www.reindeergraphics.com/

http://www.reindeergraphics.com/opti.../refocus.shtml

In article you wrote:
: "Frank Pittel" posted:
: "...
: There is a huge market for a process that that can
: take an out of focus image and bringing it into focus.
: ..."

: Take a look at 'Convolution.' and 'DeConvolution.' The Image-Processing (mathematics)
: types have been doing it for years.

: One example would be Reindeer Graphics' "Refocus" tool in the Optipix 3 package ...

: http://www.reindeergraphics.com/

: http://www.reindeergraphics.com/opti.../refocus.shtml

I took a look at the refocus page and while it can be a valuable tool it can't bring
something out of focus into focus. In order to do that properly the software would need
to be able to add information that isn't there.

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Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
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In article you wrote:
: "Frank Pittel" posted:
: "...
: There is a huge market for a process that that can
: take an out of focus image and bringing it into focus.
: ..."

: Take a look at 'Convolution.' and 'DeConvolution.' The Image-Processing (mathematics)
: types have been doing it for years.

: One example would be Reindeer Graphics' "Refocus" tool in the Optipix 3 package ...

: http://www.reindeergraphics.com/

: http://www.reindeergraphics.com/opti.../refocus.shtml

I took a look at the refocus page and while it can be a valuable tool it can't bring
something out of focus into focus. In order to do that properly the software would need
to be able to add information that isn't there.

--




Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
-------------------

In article you wrote:
: "Frank Pittel" posted:
: "...
: There is a huge market for a process that that can
: take an out of focus image and bringing it into focus.
: ..."

: Take a look at 'Convolution.' and 'DeConvolution.' The Image-Processing (mathematics)
: types have been doing it for years.

: One example would be Reindeer Graphics' "Refocus" tool in the Optipix 3 package ...

: http://www.reindeergraphics.com/

: http://www.reindeergraphics.com/opti.../refocus.shtml

I took a look at the refocus page and while it can be a valuable tool it can't bring
something out of focus into focus. In order to do that properly the software would need
to be able to add information that isn't there.

--




Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
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