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[OT - US/Canada] E-85
For the North American audience 60 Minutes will present a segement on E-85 (Ethanol) fuels, Sunday May 7 (19:00 EDT, CBS). I halfheartedly apologize for the OT posting, but you know how sensitive I am on this topic. E-85 is 85% ethanol. The vehicle must have a fuel mix sensor and controls. This is a growth trend area in North America which, while it doesn't reduce consumption, it at least displaces it with a renewable fuel that burns cleaner than gasoline. Cheers, Alan -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. |
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E-85
It's so clean it scours the inside of the engine, causing drastically
increased part's wear. Of for the days of tetraethyl lead. |
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E-85
Rich wrote:
It's so clean it scours the inside of the engine, causing drastically increased part's wear. Of for the days of tetraethyl lead. "Repairs and reliability of the E-85 Luminas have been slightly better than their gasoline counterparts." http://www.ilcorn.org/Ethanol/85__Et...__ethanol.html "Because E-85 ethanol fuel is a cleaner-burning fuel than gasoline, it is expected that the life of an E-85 vehicle will be somewhat longer than a comparable gasoline vehicle." http://www.ilcorn.org/Ethanol/85__Et...__ethanol.html I recognize that the site above may be biased. If you have a factual site regarding reliability or engine wear regarding E85, I'm very interested. Cheers, Alan -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. |
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[OT - US/Canada] E-85
Alan Browne wrote: For the North American audience 60 Minutes will present a segement on E-85 (Ethanol) fuels, Sunday May 7 (19:00 EDT, CBS). I halfheartedly apologize for the OT posting, but you know how sensitive I am on this topic. E-85 is 85% ethanol. The vehicle must have a fuel mix sensor and controls. This is a growth trend area in North America which, while it doesn't reduce consumption, it at least displaces it with a renewable fuel that burns cleaner than gasoline. Cheers, Alan -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. Is there any truth to the rumor that the pollution created and energy used in the manufacture of E85 offsets the savings? Eric |
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[OT - US/Canada] E-85
"bluezfolk" wrote in message ps.com... Alan Browne wrote: Is there any truth to the rumor that the pollution created and energy used in the manufacture of E85 offsets the savings? Eric Is it true that you still beat your wife and kids? |
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[OT - US/Canada] E-85
bluezfolk wrote:
Alan Browne wrote: For the North American audience 60 Minutes will present a segement on E-85 (Ethanol) fuels, Sunday May 7 (19:00 EDT, CBS). I halfheartedly apologize for the OT posting, but you know how sensitive I am on this topic. E-85 is 85% ethanol. The vehicle must have a fuel mix sensor and controls. This is a growth trend area in North America which, while it doesn't reduce consumption, it at least displaces it with a renewable fuel that burns cleaner than gasoline. Is there any truth to the rumor that the pollution created and energy used in the manufacture of E85 offsets the savings? Nope. http://www.ilcorn.org/Ethanol/85__Et...__ethanol.html Suggests a net 33% gain (and improving). -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. |
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[OT - US/Canada] E-85
Alan Browne wrote:
bluezfolk wrote: Alan Browne wrote: For the North American audience 60 Minutes will present a segement on E-85 (Ethanol) fuels, Sunday May 7 (19:00 EDT, CBS). I halfheartedly apologize for the OT posting, but you know how sensitive I am on this topic. E-85 is 85% ethanol. The vehicle must have a fuel mix sensor and controls. This is a growth trend area in North America which, while it doesn't reduce consumption, it at least displaces it with a renewable fuel that burns cleaner than gasoline. Is there any truth to the rumor that the pollution created and energy used in the manufacture of E85 offsets the savings? Nope. http://www.ilcorn.org/Ethanol/85__Et...__ethanol.html Suggests a net 33% gain (and improving). Way I heard it, there isn't sufficient production and infrastructure to supply sufficient material to make a significant difference. The liquid's nature is such that it isn't an appropriate subject for current mass distribution methods: it must be _trucked_ to its destination. Again, insufficient capacity likely to be available in the forseeable future. Too bad. I really like the idea of fuel from renewable biomass. We've just made the wrong investments for too long. Sad. -- Frank ess |
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it must be _trucked_ to its destination
Isn't all gas trucked to its destination? And if the trucks use the same fuel... |
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[OT - US/Canada] E-85
Bill wrote:
Frank ess wrote: Is there any truth to the rumor that the pollution created and energy used in the manufacture of E85 offsets the savings? Nope. http://www.ilcorn.org/Ethanol/85__Et...__ethanol.html They're promoting ethanol use, so they might be biased. Way I heard it, there isn't sufficient production and infrastructure to supply sufficient material to make a significant difference. The liquid's nature is such that it isn't an appropriate subject for current mass distribution methods: it must be _trucked_ to its destination. This may come as a shock to you, but most "gas stations" get their fuel from a transport truck hauling a tanker. I too like the idea of using ethanol, but the government will have to step in or the oil companies with their massive resources will continue to derail the use of ethanol. It may come as a shock to you, Bill, but your attribution snip is faulty. Plus which, a road-going tanker is not a _mass_ distribution method in this context. |
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