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MarkČ wrote:
"Toni" wrote in message oups.com... Like wondering how many milliseconds of vision and cognitive awareness you could maintain as your head falls after having it lopped off by a gillotine... LOL, I thought I was the only person who ever wondered that. Also, would you recognize your body over there and would you have time to be horrified? I'm not alone after all!! I also wonder whether if the blade stopped immediately...keeping your severed head pressed against the blade after detachment...whether the pressing blade might briefly curb the bleeding enough to maintain a bit more blood pressure...which might allow a few full seconds of awareness. II get the death penalty someday I think I'll ask for this, and then try and devise a way to signal someone like you with my eyes one way or the other... Deal? I have read that some beheaded people were conscious for up to 8 seconds. NOt sure how this was determined. Don't want to think much about it. -- Ron Hunter |
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MarkČ wrote:
"Toni" wrote in message oups.com... Like wondering how many milliseconds of vision and cognitive awareness you could maintain as your head falls after having it lopped off by a gillotine... LOL, I thought I was the only person who ever wondered that. Also, would you recognize your body over there and would you have time to be horrified? I'm not alone after all!! I also wonder whether if the blade stopped immediately...keeping your severed head pressed against the blade after detachment...whether the pressing blade might briefly curb the bleeding enough to maintain a bit more blood pressure...which might allow a few full seconds of awareness. II get the death penalty someday I think I'll ask for this, and then try and devise a way to signal someone like you with my eyes one way or the other... Deal? I have read that some beheaded people were conscious for up to 8 seconds. NOt sure how this was determined. Don't want to think much about it. -- Ron Hunter |
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MarkČ wrote:
"Toni" wrote in message oups.com... Like wondering how many milliseconds of vision and cognitive awareness you could maintain as your head falls after having it lopped off by a gillotine... LOL, I thought I was the only person who ever wondered that. Also, would you recognize your body over there and would you have time to be horrified? I'm not alone after all!! I also wonder whether if the blade stopped immediately...keeping your severed head pressed against the blade after detachment...whether the pressing blade might briefly curb the bleeding enough to maintain a bit more blood pressure...which might allow a few full seconds of awareness. II get the death penalty someday I think I'll ask for this, and then try and devise a way to signal someone like you with my eyes one way or the other... Deal? So, you were saying about IQ...? -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mike Kohary mike at kohary dot com http://www.kohary.com Karma Photography: http://www.karmaphotography.com Seahawks Historical Database: http://www.kohary.com/seahawks ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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Ken Tough writes:
I'm sure the massive shock straight to your central nervous system (through the spinal cord) would zap you unconscious straight away. That's not to say dead, just unconscious, like the karate chop to the neck thing. People executed by the guillotine remain conscious for a few seconds. A French doctor once did some observations of executions to determine this. But a constant and generous blood supply to the brain is necessary to allow this, and so the period of remaining consciousness (if any) is extremely brief. -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. |
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Ron Hunter writes:
I have read that some beheaded people were conscious for up to 8 seconds. NOt sure how this was determined. Don't want to think much about it. In the case of guillotine executions, they simply observed the person's head. He couldn't speak, but he turn his eyes to look at someone speaking to him. -- Transpose hotmail and mxsmanic in my e-mail address to reach me directly. |
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Owamanga wrote:
An interesting discussion, may be of interest to anyone who ever photographs medium to large groups of 5 year-olds: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...4&fpart=1&vc=1 or he http://tinyurl.com/6tqes -- Owamanga! http://www.pbase.com/owamanga just don't photograph them or you'll be arrested in this era of pedophile mania Alan |
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Ron Hunter writes: I have read that some beheaded people were conscious for up to 8 seconds. NOt sure how this was determined. Don't want to think much about it. In the case of guillotine executions, they simply observed the person's head. He couldn't speak, but he turn his eyes to look at someone speaking to him. That doesn't necessarily imply consciousness. The same works with people dreaming in REM sleep, though their eyelids are closed. I don't think 18th century medical research on consciousness is going to be all that reliable. I'll grant that brain activity won't stop instantly, but doubt it involves consciousness. -- Ken Tough |
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retoohs wrote:
Owamanga wrote: An interesting discussion, may be of interest to anyone who ever photographs medium to large groups of 5 year-olds: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...4&fpart=1&vc=1 or he http://tinyurl.com/6tqes -- Owamanga! http://www.pbase.com/owamanga just don't photograph them or you'll be arrested in this era of pedophile mania Alan That is possible. State law here only requires that a picture be 'provocative' in order to be classified as child pornography. So what, exactly, IS provocative? What I consider 'cute' may be 'provocative' to someone else. The classic nude baby on the bearskin rug is DEFINITELY illegal here. sigh. -- Ron Hunter |
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retoohs wrote:
Owamanga wrote: An interesting discussion, may be of interest to anyone who ever photographs medium to large groups of 5 year-olds: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...4&fpart=1&vc=1 or he http://tinyurl.com/6tqes -- Owamanga! http://www.pbase.com/owamanga just don't photograph them or you'll be arrested in this era of pedophile mania Alan That is possible. State law here only requires that a picture be 'provocative' in order to be classified as child pornography. So what, exactly, IS provocative? What I consider 'cute' may be 'provocative' to someone else. The classic nude baby on the bearskin rug is DEFINITELY illegal here. sigh. -- Ron Hunter |
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