I think we should leave this group for P&S's

On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 06:49:19 +1000, Jurgen
wrote:

HEMI-Powered wrote:
bugbear added these comments in the current discussion du jour
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_8_(Usenet)

rec.* Recreation and entertainment

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt.*_hierarchy

According to the "So You Want to Create an Alt Newsgroup"
FAQ, the name "alt" is an acronym for "Anarchists,
Lunatics, and Terrorists", though the acronym also refers
to the fact that it is a "hierarchy that is 'alternative'
to the 'mainstream'
As to the quote above, I doubt it is an acronym like that any more
than TIPS means "To Insure Prompt Service" or **** means "For
Unlawful Carnal Knowledge". However, it IS widely believed that the
etymology of posh, meaning "plush and luxurious" comes from "Port
Outbound, Starboard Inbound" referring to the way passengers on
sailing ships got preferred berthing according to where the ship
would be when docked and the way waves and prevailing winds tended
to rock the ship differently as perceived by a person in their
cabin.

So, I was basically right that rec means recreational and alt means
alternate or alternative.


Bloody Hell!
Such a wealth of information and from a Chrysler freak too!

He's right that "posh" is widely believed to be from "port outbound,
starboard inbound", but there doesn't seem to be any support for that
from people who research words and terms.

I've been a subscriber to Michael Quinion's "WorldWideWords"
newsletter for several years. Michael both researches word and term
origins and publishes the research of others in this field. Here's
Michael's article on "posh":
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-pos1.htm

For those that can't be arsed to read it, it states in part: "The
most probable solution — though unprovable because slang is so rarely
written down — is that it comes from London street slang for money.
This may well derive from Romany posh, half, originally applied to a
halfpenny, then to any small sum of money, and then to money in
general. This is recorded from as early as 1830 and was certainly
still around in 1892."


--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

HEMI-Powered wrote:

Blinky the Shark added these comments in the current discussion du jour
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Sayonara - don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out!
Actually, the 'rec' in the title might give you a clue.

Do you perceive the "rec" in rec.photo-digital.slr-systems to be a
different "rec" than the one in rec.photo.digital?

Blinky, what exactly does "rec" mean in these NGs, "recreational"? I
really don't know what "alt" means, either except maybe "alternate" or
something like that.

Answered elsewhere. I'll ad that unlike alt, rec belongs to the Big
Eight.

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On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 06:51:01 -0600, "HEMI-Powered"
wrote:

bugbear added these comments in the current discussion du jour
...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_8_(Usenet)

rec.* Recreation and entertainment

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt.*_hierarchy

According to the "So You Want to Create an Alt Newsgroup"
FAQ, the name "alt" is an acronym for "Anarchists,
Lunatics, and Terrorists", though the acronym also refers
to the fact that it is a "hierarchy that is 'alternative'
to the 'mainstream'

As to the quote above, I doubt it is an acronym like that any more
than TIPS means "To Insure Prompt Service" or **** means "For
Unlawful Carnal Knowledge". However, it IS widely believed that the
etymology of posh, meaning "plush and luxurious" comes from "Port
Outbound, Starboard Inbound" referring to the way passengers on
sailing ships got preferred berthing according to where the ship
would be when docked and the way waves and prevailing winds tended
to rock the ship differently as perceived by a person in their
cabin.

Actually, POSH was how to select the coolest side of the ship when
travelling backwards and forwards between England and India.

So, I was basically right that rec means recreational and alt means
alternate or alternative.



Eric Stevens

On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:32:01 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote in
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Actually, POSH was how to select the coolest side of the ship when
travelling backwards and forwards between England and India.

So many think, but it's not so -- see Wikipedia.
--
Best regards,
John
[Please Note: Ads belong *only* in rec.photo.marketplace.digital, as per
http://bobatkins.photo.net/info/charter.htm http://rpdfaq.50megs.com/]

On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:39:22 -0800, John Navas
wrote:

On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:32:01 +1300, Eric Stevens
wrote in
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Actually, POSH was how to select the coolest side of the ship when
travelling backwards and forwards between England and India.

So many think, but it's not so -- see Wikipedia.

Now you've made me go and look up the New Shorter Oxford English
Dictionary (NSOED). It gives three main meanings (1) a small coin (2)
Nonsense, Rubbish (3) Smart, stylish, luxurious etc. It goes on to say
"There is no evidence to support ... 'Port Out, Starboard Home"



Eric Stevens

Blinky the Shark wrote:
HEMI-Powered wrote:

Blinky the Shark added these comments in the current discussion du jour
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Sayonara - don't let the door hit you in the butt on the way out!
Actually, the 'rec' in the title might give you a clue.

Do you perceive the "rec" in rec.photo-digital.slr-systems to be a
different "rec" than the one in rec.photo.digital?

Blinky, what exactly does "rec" mean in these NGs, "recreational"? I
really don't know what "alt" means, either except maybe "alternate" or
something like that.

Answered elsewhere. I'll ad that unlike alt, rec belongs to the Big
Eight.

Not that that has made any difference for the last 10 years...

--
Floyd L. Davidson http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)

On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:31:06 +0000, bugbear
wrote:

RichA wrote:
I know it's "digital" which encompasses all the cameras, but the
rec.photo.digital.slr-systems is more suited to DSLRs and people here would
be free to concentrate on P&S's for as long as their stomach's stay strong.


I think we should talk about photography.

BINGO!

However, regardless of camera types or style of photography, forums
such as these always seem to degrade to discussions of "my camera is
better than yours" kinds of things. This has been true for decades,
even before Al Gore invented the internet.

Of course, it is perfectly valid to discuss gear in the context of
choosing cameras that will give you the best results for specific
applications.



Perhaps a group "rec.photo.camera.advocacy" is needed,
where the trolls could play.

BugBear

"Stephen Bishop" wrote in message


[...]

However, regardless of camera types or style of photography, forums
such as these always seem to degrade to discussions of "my camera is
better than yours" kinds of things. This has been true for decades,
even before Al Gore invented the internet.

Another urban myth. He never said that.

Eric Stevens added these comments in the current discussion du
jour ...

Actually, POSH was how to select the coolest side of the ship
when travelling backwards and forwards between England and
India.

So many think, but it's not so -- see Wikipedia.

Now you've made me go and look up the New Shorter Oxford
English Dictionary (NSOED). It gives three main meanings (1)
a small coin (2) Nonsense, Rubbish (3) Smart, stylish,
luxurious etc. It goes on to say "There is no evidence to
support ... 'Port Out, Starboard Home"

This was meant to be a joke on why I don't think that "alt" is an
acronym, but POSH does mean that, it is just debatable what the
words were meant to convey. The reason the dictionary doesn't
define "port outbound, starboard inbound" is that it doesn't
include obsolete definitions for terms and acronyms, only words
generally considered to be current. There are literally tens of
thousands of legitimate words in the English language that won't be
found in a standard dictionary no matter how think or how new, but
they can be found with some judicious Googling.

--
HP, aka Jerry

"Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this the War Room!" –
President Merkin Muffley, in the movie 'Dr. Strangelove or How I
Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb'

Stephen Bishop added these comments in the current discussion du
jour ...

I think we should talk about photography.

BINGO!

However, regardless of camera types or style of photography,
forums such as these always seem to degrade to discussions of
"my camera is better than yours" kinds of things. This has
been true for decades, even before Al Gore invented the
internet.

I wish der Fuhrer of der Green Nazis would have stuck with the
Internet instead of going on to invent something far more
dangerous, the idiotic notion of global warming being caused by
man.

Of course, it is perfectly valid to discuss gear in the
context of choosing cameras that will give you the best
results for specific applications.

There are bigots and elitists in the NG the same as in any NG and
if someone accidently wakes them up by making a comment about a
specific camera, genre of cameras, or photographic technique that
doesn't agree with the mainstream of thought for these people, they
will rise up in righteous indignation and smite the infidel. So,
just ignore it, learn from the stuff you do like, and enjoy life.

--
HP, aka Jerry

"Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this the War Room!" –
President Merkin Muffley, in the movie 'Dr. Strangelove or How I
Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb'