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Fuji MF weirdness
Something I wasn't aware of until I read this article:
https://blog.mingthein.com/2018/03/1...es-on-the-x1d/ The Fuji X1D has no mechanical shutter and it takes a full 1/3s to read the sensor, which is an eternity and means that you have to be careful about how you hold the camera: "Rolling shutter, beware. It?s not just moving objects; hold the camera stead else verticals may wiggle." And the camera is limited to ISO 3200: "There is also no calibration data above ISO 3200 for various technical reasons, so this is your maximum speed" A bit strange why a camera, especially one with a MF sensor, would be limited to ISO 3200. -- Alfred Molon Olympus E-series DSLRs and micro 4/3 forum at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/ http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site |
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Fuji MF weirdness
On 2018-03-18 10:00:06 +0000, Alfred Molon said:
Something I wasn't aware of until I read this article: https://blog.mingthein.com/2018/03/1...es-on-the-x1d/ You need to reread the article as you seem to have missed some pertinent points. As a result you have mistitled the subject line, and done Fujifilm a disservice. The Fuji X1D has no mechanical shutter and it takes a full 1/3s to read the sensor, which is an eternity and means that you have to be careful about how you hold the camera: First, nowhere in that article is any Fujifilm camera mentioned. The camera in question is the Hasselblad X1D. The Fujifilm MF is the GFX50S, and that has a mechanical focal plane shutter with an option to use the electronic shutter, or electronic front curtain shutter. http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/gfx/fujifilm_gfx_50s/ "Rolling shutter, beware. It?s not just moving objects; hold the camera stead else verticals may wiggle." And the camera is limited to ISO 3200: "There is also no calibration data above ISO 3200 for various technical reasons, so this is your maximum speed" A bit strange why a camera, especially one with a MF sensor, would be limited to ISO 3200. The issue it seems is the selection of specific lenses which do not match well with the X1D since neither the lenses, nor the camera body have a mechanical shutter. This problem should not exist with the Fujifilm GFX50S. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Fuji MF weirdness
On 2018-03-18 13:07:52 +0000, Savageduck said:
You need to reread the article as you seem to have missed some pertinent points. As a result you have mistitled the subject line, and done Fujifilm a disservice. Putting Leica lenses on a microMF is a waste since the ain't design to cover that slightly large sensor area. A Sony a7Riii would be a better choice, in that price range. A TechArt Pro adapter per lense included... http://techartpro.com/product/techart-pro-leica-m-sony-e-autofocus-adapter/ -- teleportation kills |
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Hasselblad MF weirdness
True. It's a Hasselblad, not a Fuji. Not sure why I confused it with a
Fuji. But the strangeness remains - why this Hasselblad medium format camera has no mechanical shutter and needs 1/3s to read the sensor. You would expect that especially a Hasselblad camera wouldn't have these problems. -- Alfred Molon Olympus E-series DSLRs and micro 4/3 forum at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/ http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site |
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Hasselblad MF weirdness
On Mar 18, 2018, Alfred Molon wrote
(in om): True. It's a Hasselblad, not a Fuji. Not sure why I confused it with a Fuji. I guess that if you start with the similar sized sensors it is easy enough to make that leap. But the strangeness remains - why this Hasselblad medium format camera has no mechanical shutter and needs 1/3s to read the sensor. Agreed. One would think that with all their experience, and the knowledge that users would undoubtably want to use a wide selection of lenses with appropriate adaptors that they would have taken that into account. It is almost as if they had no thought of users using anything other than Hassy lenses. You would expect that especially a Hasselblad camera wouldn't have these problems. It does make you think that perhaps the Fujifilm GFX50S would be the better option. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Hasselblad MF weirdness
On 2018-03-18 20:01:54 +0000, Savageduck said:
On Mar 18, 2018, Alfred Molon wrote (in om): True. It's a Hasselblad, not a Fuji. Not sure why I confused it with a Fuji. I guess that if you start with the similar sized sensors it is easy enough to make that leap. But the strangeness remains - why this Hasselblad medium format camera has no mechanical shutter and needs 1/3s to read the sensor. Agreed. One would think that with all their experience, and the knowledge that users would undoubtably want to use a wide selection of lenses with appropriate adaptors that they would have taken that into account. It is almost as if they had no thought of users using anything other than Hassy lenses. You would expect that especially a Hasselblad camera wouldn't have these problems. It does make you think that perhaps the Fujifilm GFX50S would be the better option. Fuji has been producing cameras for Hassy since the XPAN that was a rebranded Fuji 35mm UWA system. Some H cameras have been sold under the Fuji brand and was developed by them too. With Japanese firmware no need to say! The Hasseblad lenses have mainly been Fujinons since H1... Hasselblad has it's headquarters in Copenhagen, Denmark and makes the databacks for the Hs and scanners themselves. IIRC! Since Hassy was sold to overseas interest in the mid nineties and the new owners decided to dump the digital development for short time cash revenue maximisation very little has happened in Hassy wise in Gothenburg. The now mostly Danish operation had Imacon (databacks) as a nucleus. Hasselblad is still registered and has it's legal seat in Gothenburg, Sweden. Just to get the history right.. No need to say that the the H series is inspired by the Mamiya 645 that that was a blatant chepoo copy of the Hasselblad 500c/m. Confusing Hasselblad with Fuji is a rookie but minor misstake! -- teleportation kills |
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Hasselblad MF weirdness
On 2018-03-19 04:50:31 +0000, android said:
On 2018-03-18 20:01:54 +0000, Savageduck said: On Mar 18, 2018, Alfred Molon wrote (in om): True. It's a Hasselblad, not a Fuji. Not sure why I confused it with a Fuji. I guess that if you start with the similar sized sensors it is easy enough to make that leap. But the strangeness remains - why this Hasselblad medium format camera has no mechanical shutter and needs 1/3s to read the sensor. Agreed. One would think that with all their experience, and the knowledge that users would undoubtably want to use a wide selection of lenses with appropriate adaptors that they would have taken that into account. It is almost as if they had no thought of users using anything other than Hassy lenses. You would expect that especially a Hasselblad camera wouldn't have these problems. It does make you think that perhaps the Fujifilm GFX50S would be the better option. Fuji has been producing cameras for Hassy since the XPAN that was a rebranded Fuji 35mm UWA system. Some H cameras have been sold under the Fuji brand and was developed by them too. With Japanese firmware no need to say! The Hasseblad lenses have mainly been Fujinons since H1... Hasselblad has it's headquarters in Copenhagen, Denmark and makes the databacks for the Hs and scanners themselves. IIRC! Since Hassy was sold to overseas interest in the mid nineties and the new owners decided to dump the digital development for short time cash revenue maximisation very little has happened in Hassy wise in Gothenburg. The now mostly Danish operation had Imacon (databacks) as a nucleus. Hasselblad is still registered and has it's legal seat in Gothenburg, Sweden. Just to get the history right.. No need to say that the the H series is inspired by the Mamiya 645 that that was a blatant chepoo copy of the Hasselblad 500c/m. Confusing Hasselblad with Fuji is a rookie but minor misstake! This is the old Hassy block, factory and offices situated inside the city mote. It now host condominiums... https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/qe913ov7c0vjj6t/i150918%236530.oldhassycomplex.jpg -- teleportation kills |
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Hasselblad MF weirdness
In article .com,
Savageduck says... It does make you think that perhaps the Fujifilm GFX50S would be the better option. It seems that Hasselblad incorporate the shutter into the lens (leaf shutter). This allows unlimited flash sync speeds (the Fuji has max. 1/125s). Then the Hassy is slimmer, but the Fuji has more lenses. -- Alfred Molon Olympus E-series DSLRs and micro 4/3 forum at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MyOlympus/ http://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site |
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