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RichA wrote:
Why? You don't need a spine to think. For all we know, the head could be alive and thinking for about 1-2 minutes. Wouldn't it be a kick if it talked? If you quickly supply an air hose, he might ba able to... gotta slice below the vocal cords, however. -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch. |
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Alan Browne wrote:
Ron Hunter wrote: That is possible. State law here only requires that a picture be 'provocative' in order to be classified as child pornography. So what, exactly, IS provocative? What I consider 'cute' may be 'provocative' to someone else. The classic nude baby on the bearskin rug is DEFINITELY illegal here. sigh. Following some notorious cases like the lady down in Texas a couple years ago, I would expect (or hope) that law enforcement are standing back and giving it a re-think. At one point, the hysteria reached the point where the legislature passed a law that made it illegal to change a baby's diaper, bathe them, or even to breast-feed!! That one didn't last long! -- Ron Hunter |
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RichA wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 09:42:00 +0200, Ken Tough wrote: Mxsmanic wrote: Ron Hunter writes: I have read that some beheaded people were conscious for up to 8 seconds. NOt sure how this was determined. Don't want to think much about it. In the case of guillotine executions, they simply observed the person's head. He couldn't speak, but he turn his eyes to look at someone speaking to him. That doesn't necessarily imply consciousness. The same works with people dreaming in REM sleep, though their eyelids are closed. I don't think 18th century medical research on consciousness is going to be all that reliable. I'll grant that brain activity won't stop instantly, but doubt it involves consciousness. Why? You don't need a spine to think. For all we know, the head could be alive and thinking for about 1-2 minutes. Wouldn't it be a kick if it talked? -Rich It couldn't talk as that requires air from the lungs (which it no longer has contact with), and the voicebox is likely to have been severed as well. -- Ron Hunter |
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RichA wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 09:42:00 +0200, Ken Tough wrote: Mxsmanic wrote: Ron Hunter writes: I have read that some beheaded people were conscious for up to 8 seconds. NOt sure how this was determined. Don't want to think much about it. In the case of guillotine executions, they simply observed the person's head. He couldn't speak, but he turn his eyes to look at someone speaking to him. That doesn't necessarily imply consciousness. The same works with people dreaming in REM sleep, though their eyelids are closed. I don't think 18th century medical research on consciousness is going to be all that reliable. I'll grant that brain activity won't stop instantly, but doubt it involves consciousness. Why? You don't need a spine to think. For all we know, the head could be alive and thinking for about 1-2 minutes. Wouldn't it be a kick if it talked? -Rich It couldn't talk as that requires air from the lungs (which it no longer has contact with), and the voicebox is likely to have been severed as well. -- Ron Hunter |
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RichA wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 09:42:00 +0200, Ken Tough That doesn't necessarily imply consciousness. The same works with people dreaming in REM sleep, though their eyelids are closed. I don't think 18th century medical research on consciousness is going to be all that reliable. I'll grant that brain activity won't stop instantly, but doubt it involves consciousness. Why? You don't need a spine to think. For all we know, the head could be alive and thinking for about 1-2 minutes. The massive shock applied to the central nervous system (by chopping the cord in half, as well as the instant drop in blood pressure to the "sensors" that make you unconscious would render you blacked out almost instantly. Surely. Wouldn't it be a kick if it talked? A heck of a trick. Maybe some american states could be convinced to return to the guillotine and we'll find out. -- Ken Tough |
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Ron Hunter wrote:
The classic nude baby on the bearskin rug is DEFINITELY illegal here. sigh. I would hope so. That's absolutely disgusting. A bearskin rug, how gruesome. -- Ken Tough |
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On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 17:39:19 +0200, Ken Tough
mumbled: RichA wrote: On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 09:42:00 +0200, Ken Tough That doesn't necessarily imply consciousness. The same works with people dreaming in REM sleep, though their eyelids are closed. I don't think 18th century medical research on consciousness is going to be all that reliable. I'll grant that brain activity won't stop instantly, but doubt it involves consciousness. Why? You don't need a spine to think. For all we know, the head could be alive and thinking for about 1-2 minutes. The massive shock applied to the central nervous system (by chopping the cord in half, as well as the instant drop in blood pressure to the "sensors" that make you unconscious would render you blacked out almost instantly. Surely. Wouldn't it be a kick if it talked? A heck of a trick. Maybe some american states could be convinced to return to the guillotine and we'll find out. A hoot would be to stick out their tongue at the executioner. nah nah nah ahhhh....... |
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