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LightRoom Mobile and external storage
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I'm trying to design a workflow for handling 20 years / 200GB of photos As I'm on a train a lot, basic "pick and rate" on my phone would be important with use of a PC/Mac to do retouching and keywording of the higher rated items. So as far as DAMs go, Lightroom seems to be the only one that can sync MobilePC and allow some useful activity on the Mobile end. (Though if anyone knows of any others, I'd like to know Starting with LR-Mobile: I know it can (on Android) handle photos stored on both the phone's flash and the internal removable SD card. Q1: But - can it work with assets on an external card connected via the USB/OTG port? In other words, can I have a collection of image sets on random SD cards all managed by one catalogue and plug the cards into the USB port to work on them? Q2: Failing that, does anyone know if it can handle the internal SD card being swapped with different image sets? The way I'd like to work is to treat my phone (and some microSD cards) as primary storage for RAW files, rate and review, then sync via Adobe CC to a PC/Mac with lots of storage - so at all times, I have everything in 2 places. If that's cockeyed and there's another way to achieve a good workflow that's mobile centric, please do tell If this works out, I'd consider getting an iPadPro to be the mobile device to make review and basic editing easier. Many thanks for any ideas/comments Cheers, Tim |
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LightRoom Mobile and external storage
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Tim Watts wrote: Hi, I'm trying to design a workflow for handling 20 years / 200GB of photos As I'm on a train a lot, basic "pick and rate" on my phone would be important with use of a PC/Mac to do retouching and keywording of the higher rated items. So as far as DAMs go, Lightroom seems to be the only one that can sync MobilePC and allow some useful activity on the Mobile end. (Though if anyone knows of any others, I'd like to know Starting with LR-Mobile: I know it can (on Android) handle photos stored on both the phone's flash and the internal removable SD card. Q1: But - can it work with assets on an external card connected via the USB/OTG port? In other words, can I have a collection of image sets on random SD cards all managed by one catalogue and plug the cards into the USB port to work on them? Q2: Failing that, does anyone know if it can handle the internal SD card being swapped with different image sets? The way I'd like to work is to treat my phone (and some microSD cards) as primary storage for RAW files, rate and review, then sync via Adobe CC to a PC/Mac with lots of storage - so at all times, I have everything in 2 places. If that's cockeyed and there's another way to achieve a good workflow that's mobile centric, please do tell If this works out, I'd consider getting an iPadPro to be the mobile device to make review and basic editing easier. Many thanks for any ideas/comments I use an Android smartphone, the Xperia M4 to make photographic notes sometimes but use Sonys soft to sync it over to the Mac and work from there. I do have Photoshop for Android and other mobile photo apps installed but just use them for a grin occasionally. Good luck with your mobile workflow. Lightroom for Android and iPhone should do the same things for you. Some folks would suggest that you use the cloud for storage here but I wouldn't... -- teleportation kills |
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On Oct 18, 2017, Tim Watts wrote
(in ): Hi, I'm trying to design a workflow for handling 20 years / 200GB of photos What is your current workflow (storage, and software)? As I'm on a train a lot, basic "pick and rate" on my phone would be important with use of a PC/Mac to do retouching and keywording of the higher rated items. So as far as DAMs go, Lightroom seems to be the only one that can sync MobilePC and allow some useful activity on the Mobile end. (Though if anyone knows of any others, I'd like to know Starting with LR-Mobile: I know it can (on Android) handle photos stored on both the phone's flash and the internal removable SD card. Q1: But - can it work with assets on an external card connected via the USB/OTG port? In other words, can I have a collection of image sets on random SD cards all managed by one catalogue and plug the cards into the USB port to work on them? Q2: Failing that, does anyone know if it can handle the internal SD card being swapped with different image sets? The way I'd like to work is to treat my phone (and some microSD cards) as primary storage for RAW files, rate and review, then sync via Adobe CC to a PC/Mac with lots of storage - so at all times, I have everything in 2 places. If that's cockeyed and there's another way to achieve a good workflow that's mobile centric, please do tell If this works out, I'd consider getting an iPadPro to be the mobile device to make review and basic editing easier. Many thanks for any ideas/comments Cheers, Tim I was going through a similar thought process for a travel/road workflow. In years past I used a MacBook Pro and external hard drives for backup, and major transfer to my desktop Mac. In those days global transfer and cloud services could not be relied upon in all locations. So my redundant on the road backup was; Colorspace UDMA, Laptop, & external harddrive. Images (not everything) I wanted for immediate online sharing, or additional backup went to Dropbox. Since then the MBP has aged beyond capability to update to current macOS, and will not support Adobe CC. I have retired and I cannot justify the cost of a new MBP, (i’d rather buy new photo kit, lenses, etc.) so I looked at the Macbook Air, Macbook, or iPad Pro. Last year I took an overseas trip and I decided to travel light, so my only computing device was an iPhone 6S+ (128 GB) with Lightroom Mobile. Tx from camera to iPhone was space limited, so primary backup was to my 1 TB Colorspace UDMA and additional phone storage to a SandiskiXpand flash drive. They have several solutions. https://www.hypershop.com/products/hyperdrive-colorspace-udma3 https://www.sandisk.com/home Since then I have bought a 10.5” iPad Pro (512GB). I have all the Adobe Mobile apps installed, and Affinity Photo for iPad. I still have the Sandisk iXpand flash to use with the iPad Pro, and the UDMA for primary on-the-road backup. With iOS11 the file system (iCloud Drive) together with Apple iCloud service has become a reliable additional resource, so I have additional iCloud storage, it is cheap enough. I think that having a bunch of different micro SD cards for different LR collections might be more than LR Mobile could deal with. I could be wrong. LR Mobile-LR CC syncing works very well, and for the type of shooting I am going to do on a trip the iPad Pro, with the software I have installed, is going to meet my travel computing needs. LR Mobile on my iPad with synced collections. https://www.dropbox.com/s/224ruvnwsh1sf07/LRM-1.png https://www.dropbox.com/s/8qm92cl0msvkus2/LRM-2.png https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/photo/ipad/ ....and Affinity Photo on my iPad. https://www.dropbox.com/s/axg14zd124mugwz/APM-1.png -- Regards, Savageduck |
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LightRoom Mobile and external storage
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Savageduck wrote: On Oct 18, 2017, Tim Watts wrote (in ): Hi, I'm trying to design a workflow for handling 20 years / 200GB of photos What is your current workflow (storage, and software)? As I'm on a train a lot, basic "pick and rate" on my phone would be important with use of a PC/Mac to do retouching and keywording of the higher rated items. So as far as DAMs go, Lightroom seems to be the only one that can sync MobilePC and allow some useful activity on the Mobile end. (Though if anyone knows of any others, I'd like to know Starting with LR-Mobile: I know it can (on Android) handle photos stored on both the phone's flash and the internal removable SD card. Q1: But - can it work with assets on an external card connected via the USB/OTG port? In other words, can I have a collection of image sets on random SD cards all managed by one catalogue and plug the cards into the USB port to work on them? Q2: Failing that, does anyone know if it can handle the internal SD card being swapped with different image sets? The way I'd like to work is to treat my phone (and some microSD cards) as primary storage for RAW files, rate and review, then sync via Adobe CC to a PC/Mac with lots of storage - so at all times, I have everything in 2 places. If that's cockeyed and there's another way to achieve a good workflow that's mobile centric, please do tell If this works out, I'd consider getting an iPadPro to be the mobile device to make review and basic editing easier. Many thanks for any ideas/comments Cheers, Tim I was going through a similar thought process for a travel/road workflow. In years past I used a MacBook Pro and external hard drives for backup, and major transfer to my desktop Mac. In those days global transfer and cloud services could not be relied upon in all locations. So my redundant on the road backup was; Colorspace UDMA, Laptop, & external harddrive. Images (not everything) I wanted for immediate online sharing, or additional backup went to Dropbox. Since then the MBP has aged beyond capability to update to current macOS, and will not support Adobe CC. I have retired and I cannot justify the cost of a new MBP, (i’d rather buy new photo kit, lenses, etc.) so I looked at the Macbook Air, Macbook, or iPad Pro. Last year I took an overseas trip and I decided to travel light, so my only computing device was an iPhone 6S+ (128 GB) with Lightroom Mobile. Tx from camera to iPhone was space limited, so primary backup was to my 1 TB Colorspace UDMA and additional phone storage to a SandiskiXpand flash drive. They have several solutions. https://www.hypershop.com/products/hyperdrive-colorspace-udma3 Why is this? "User replaceable/installable hard drive/SSD ( Support up to 2TB merchanical drive, and 1TB SSD, not compatible with Sandisk SSD.)" https://www.sandisk.com/home Since then I have bought a 10.5” iPad Pro (512GB). I have all the Adobe Mobile apps installed, and Affinity Photo for iPad. I still have the Sandisk iXpand flash to use with the iPad Pro, and the UDMA for primary on-the-road backup. With iOS11 the file system (iCloud Drive) together with Apple iCloud service has become a reliable additional resource, so I have additional iCloud storage, it is cheap enough. I think that having a bunch of different micro SD cards for different LR collections might be more than LR Mobile could deal with. I could be wrong. LR Mobile-LR CC syncing works very well, and for the type of shooting I am going to do on a trip the iPad Pro, with the software I have installed, is going to meet my travel computing needs. LR Mobile on my iPad with synced collections. https://www.dropbox.com/s/224ruvnwsh1sf07/LRM-1.png https://www.dropbox.com/s/8qm92cl0msvkus2/LRM-2.png https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/photo/ipad/ ...and Affinity Photo on my iPad. https://www.dropbox.com/s/axg14zd124mugwz/APM-1.png -- teleportation kills |
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LightRoom Mobile and external storage
In article .com,
Savageduck wrote: Last year I took an overseas trip and I decided to travel light, so my only computing device was an iPhone 6S+ (128 GB) with Lightroom Mobile. Tx from camera to iPhone was space limited, so primary backup was to my 1 TB Colorspace UDMA and additional phone storage to a SandiskiXpand flash drive. They have several solutions. https://www.hypershop.com/products/hyperdrive-colorspace-udma3 That's an empty box this thingy seem to be a way better deal and you get 1TB storage from the get go: https://www.amazon.com/Passport-Wire...-Drive/dp/B00M 9B3XZM/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1508340637&sr =1-1&keywords=me mory+card+backup+device&refinements=p_n_feature_tw o_browse-bin%3A54468120 11 http://tinyurl.com/y8tqg64m -- teleportation kills |
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LightRoom Mobile and external storage
On 18/10/17 13:35, Savageduck wrote:
On Oct 18, 2017, Tim Watts wrote (in ): Hi, I'm trying to design a workflow for handling 20 years / 200GB of photos What is your current workflow (storage, and software)? Hi None really - I have a ton of photos sitting on my home linux fileserver and sync'd to my laptop, in folders b y date and further grouped by year. I'm looking to start managing this properly - with cataloging/pick/rate being the priority. Then the "good" ones will get some retouching if needed. I was going through a similar thought process for a travel/road workflow. In years past I used a MacBook Pro and external hard drives for backup, and major transfer to my desktop Mac. In those days global transfer and cloud services could not be relied upon in all locations. So my redundant on the road backup was; Colorspace UDMA, Laptop, & external harddrive. Images (not everything) I wanted for immediate online sharing, or additional backup went to Dropbox. Since then the MBP has aged beyond capability to update to current macOS, and will not support Adobe CC. I have retired and I cannot justify the cost of a new MBP, (i’d rather buy new photo kit, lenses, etc.) so I looked at the Macbook Air, Macbook, or iPad Pro. Last year I took an overseas trip and I decided to travel light, so my only computing device was an iPhone 6S+ (128 GB) with Lightroom Mobile. Tx from camera to iPhone was space limited, so primary backup was to my 1 TB Colorspace UDMA and additional phone storage to a SandiskiXpand flash drive. They have several solutions. https://www.hypershop.com/products/hyperdrive-colorspace-udma3 https://www.sandisk.com/home Since then I have bought a 10.5” iPad Pro (512GB). I have all the Adobe Mobile apps installed, and Affinity Photo for iPad. I still have the Sandisk iXpand flash to use with the iPad Pro, and the UDMA for primary on-the-road backup. With iOS11 the file system (iCloud Drive) together with Apple iCloud service has become a reliable additional resource, so I have additional iCloud storage, it is cheap enough. I think that having a bunch of different micro SD cards for different LR collections might be more than LR Mobile could deal with. I could be wrong. OK - thanks. Am I right that LR-PC/Mac can manage offline storage, provided you only have one catalogue? LR Mobile-LR CC syncing works very well, and for the type of shooting I am going to do on a trip the iPad Pro, with the software I have installed, is going to meet my travel computing needs. Encouraging I can at the moment fit everything on a single 256GB card - so I might try something like (which I already have a script for): 1) Dupe to slow reliable SDCard which I keep at work in a wallet in my desk; That's also my "offsite backup" 2) After Pick/Reject, delete the rejected from my phone's card - it's likely I can keep my entire Picked catalgue under 256GB - at least until the microSD cards double in size. LR Mobile on my iPad with synced collections. https://www.dropbox.com/s/224ruvnwsh1sf07/LRM-1.png https://www.dropbox.com/s/8qm92cl0msvkus2/LRM-2.png https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/photo/ipad/ ...and Affinity Photo on my iPad. https://www.dropbox.com/s/axg14zd124mugwz/APM-1.png Cool - thank you for that. |
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On Oct 18, 2017, android wrote
(in ): In iganews.com, Savageduck wrote: On Oct 18, 2017, Tim Watts wrote (in ): Hi, I'm trying to design a workflow for handling 20 years / 200GB of photos What is your current workflow (storage, and software)? As I'm on a train a lot, basic "pick and rate" on my phone would be important with use of a PC/Mac to do retouching and keywording of the higher rated items. So as far as DAMs go, Lightroom seems to be the only one that can sync MobilePC and allow some useful activity on the Mobile end. (Though if anyone knows of any others, I'd like to know Starting with LR-Mobile: I know it can (on Android) handle photos stored on both the phone's flash and the internal removable SD card. Q1: But - can it work with assets on an external card connected via the USB/OTG port? In other words, can I have a collection of image sets on random SD cards all managed by one catalogue and plug the cards into the USB port to work on them? Q2: Failing that, does anyone know if it can handle the internal SD card being swapped with different image sets? The way I'd like to work is to treat my phone (and some microSD cards) as primary storage for RAW files, rate and review, then sync via Adobe CC to a PC/Mac with lots of storage - so at all times, I have everything in 2 places. If that's cockeyed and there's another way to achieve a good workflow that's mobile centric, please do tell If this works out, I'd consider getting an iPadPro to be the mobile device to make review and basic editing easier. Many thanks for any ideas/comments Cheers, Tim I was going through a similar thought process for a travel/road workflow. In years past I used a MacBook Pro and external hard drives for backup, and major transfer to my desktop Mac. In those days global transfer and cloud services could not be relied upon in all locations. So my redundant on the road backup was; Colorspace UDMA, Laptop, & external harddrive. Images (not everything) I wanted for immediate online sharing, or additional backup went to Dropbox. Since then the MBP has aged beyond capability to update to current macOS, and will not support Adobe CC. I have retired and I cannot justify the cost of a new MBP, (i’d rather buy new photo kit, lenses, etc.) so I looked at the Macbook Air, Macbook, or iPad Pro. Last year I took an overseas trip and I decided to travel light, so my only computing device was an iPhone 6S+ (128 GB) with Lightroom Mobile. Tx from camera to iPhone was space limited, so primary backup was to my 1 TB Colorspace UDMA and additional phone storage to a SandiskiXpand flash drive. They have several solutions. https://www.hypershop.com/products/hyperdrive-colorspace-udma3 Why is this? "User replaceable/installable hard drive/SSD ( Support up to 2TB merchanical drive, and 1TB SSD, not compatible with Sandisk SSD.)" You can buy several different configurations, from the empty build your own, to severalk different size options. For whatever reason, there seems to be a compatibility issue with Sandisk SSD. The current version is the UDMA3. I bought my UDMA with a 250GB drive back in 2001. Since then I have changed the drive to 1TB and replaced the battery. All very simple upgrades, just two screw to remove to open it up. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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On Oct 18, 2017, android wrote
(in ): In iganews.com, Savageduck wrote: Last year I took an overseas trip and I decided to travel light, so my only computing device was an iPhone 6S+ (128 GB) with Lightroom Mobile. Tx from camera to iPhone was space limited, so primary backup was to my 1 TB Colorspace UDMA and additional phone storage to a SandiskiXpand flash drive. They have several solutions. https://www.hypershop.com/products/hyperdrive-colorspace-udma3 That's an empty box this thingy seem to be a way better deal and you get 1TB storage from the get go: Yup! https://www.amazon.com/Passport-Wire...-Drive/dp/B00M 9B3XZM/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1508340637&sr =1-1&keywords=me mory+card+backup+device&refinements=p_n_feature_tw o_browse-bin%3A54468120 11 http://tinyurl.com/y8tqg64m There is nothing wrong with that. The UDMA was the best of its kind back then, and even now has the advantage of having an LCD display, and slots for CF, SD, and a bunch of other memory cards. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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In article .com,
Savageduck wrote: On Oct 18, 2017, android wrote (in ): In iganews.com, Savageduck wrote: Last year I took an overseas trip and I decided to travel light, so my only computing device was an iPhone 6S+ (128 GB) with Lightroom Mobile. Tx from camera to iPhone was space limited, so primary backup was to my 1 TB Colorspace UDMA and additional phone storage to a SandiskiXpand flash drive. They have several solutions. https://www.hypershop.com/products/hyperdrive-colorspace-udma3 That's an empty box this thingy seem to be a way better deal and you get 1TB storage from the get go: Yup! https://www.amazon.com/Passport-Wire...-Drive/dp/B00M 9B3XZM/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1508340637&sr =1-1&keywords=me mory+card+backup+device&refinements=p_n_feature_tw o_browse-bin%3A54468120 11 http://tinyurl.com/y8tqg64m There is nothing wrong with that. The UDMA was the best of its kind back then, and even now has the advantage of having an LCD display, and slots for CF, SD, and a bunch of other memory cards. It seems that you can back up from a SD card and then browse it from a mobile device. From Amazon: Built-in SD card slot Wirelessly connect with your mobile devices Back up or transfer photos and videos from your SD card Whatever. For it to be a true backup you would need to have an additional disk mirrored on the side or keep to the data on the cards and thus have cards to cover you for the whole trip. I think that I'll bring my 10" Acer and an external 2.5"HD enclosure on my next longer trip to mirror important stuff. Seems safer than to fiddle with pads, tabs or phones... -- teleportation kills |
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On Oct 18, 2017, Tim Watts wrote
(in ): On 18/10/17 13:35, Savageduck wrote: On Oct 18, 2017, Tim Watts wrote (in ): Hi, I'm trying to design a workflow for handling 20 years / 200GB of photos What is your current workflow (storage, and software)? Hi None really - I have a ton of photos sitting on my home linux fileserver and sync'd to my laptop, in folders b y date and further grouped by year. I'm looking to start managing this properly - with cataloging/pick/rate being the priority. Then the "good" ones will get some retouching if needed. Currently the best of breed for asset management is Lightroom, and if you are going that route, then there is a new development which might suit you even better. Adobe has just announced a change to their Adobe CC line up which would give you 1TB of Adobe Creative Cloud storage and new Lightroom CC for $10/month. With 1TB you wouldn’t need any elaborate storage. I currently use the Photography plan which gives me 20GB. http://news.adobe.com/press-release/...ntroduces-new- lightroom-cc-cloud-photography-service https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/18/...-adobe-update- release-price-photography https://petapixel.com/2017/10/18/bye...oom-cc-faster- lightroom-classic/ BTW: 200GB of photos over 20 years, is not a particularly large amount. These days with larger sensors and file sizes it is possible to accumulate massive archives. At a single 4-6 hour event such as an airshow, or motorsport event shooting 100GB or more would not be unusual. I was going through a similar thought process for a travel/road workflow. In years past I used a MacBook Pro and external hard drives for backup, and major transfer to my desktop Mac. In those days global transfer and cloud services could not be relied upon in all locations. So my redundant on the road backup was; Colorspace UDMA, Laptop, & external harddrive. Images (not everything) I wanted for immediate online sharing, or additional backup went to Dropbox. Since then the MBP has aged beyond capability to update to current macOS, and will not support Adobe CC. I have retired and I cannot justify the cost of a new MBP, (i’d rather buy new photo kit, lenses, etc.) so I looked at the Macbook Air, Macbook, or iPad Pro. Last year I took an overseas trip and I decided to travel light, so my only computing device was an iPhone 6S+ (128 GB) with Lightroom Mobile. Tx from camera to iPhone was space limited, so primary backup was to my 1 TB Colorspace UDMA and additional phone storage to a SandiskiXpand flash drive. They have several solutions. https://www.hypershop.com/products/hyperdrive-colorspace-udma3 https://www.sandisk.com/home Since then I have bought a 10.5” iPad Pro (512GB). I have all the Adobe Mobile apps installed, and Affinity Photo for iPad. I still have the Sandisk iXpand flash to use with the iPad Pro, and the UDMA for primary on-the-road backup. With iOS11 the file system (iCloud Drive) together with Apple iCloud service has become a reliable additional resource, so I have additional iCloud storage, it is cheap enough. I think that having a bunch of different micro SD cards for different LR collections might be more than LR Mobile could deal with. I could be wrong. OK - thanks. Am I right that LR-PC/Mac can manage offline storage, provided you only have one catalogue? You can only have one catalogue at a time. You can have several catalogues, and some pro users go that route to separate individual client shoots, but for most of us working with a single catalogue is simpler. LR Mobile-LR CC syncing works very well, and for the type of shooting I am going to do on a trip the iPad Pro, with the software I have installed, is going to meet my travel computing needs. Encouraging I can at the moment fit everything on a single 256GB card - so I might try something like (which I already have a script for): 1) Dupe to slow reliable SDCard which I keep at work in a wallet in my desk; That's also my "offsite backup" 2) After Pick/Reject, delete the rejected from my phone's card - it's likely I can keep my entire Picked catalgue under 256GB - at least until the microSD cards double in size. From what you have said, I assume that your photography is mostly shot on your phone. LR Mobile on my iPad with synced collections. https://www.dropbox.com/s/224ruvnwsh1sf07/LRM-1.png https://www.dropbox.com/s/8qm92cl0msvkus2/LRM-2.png https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/photo/ipad/ ...and Affinity Photo on my iPad. https://www.dropbox.com/s/axg14zd124mugwz/APM-1.png Cool - thank you for that. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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