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Old April 9th 09, 12:31 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
Rich[_6_]
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These people are the kind who want nature reserved only for their kind,
the hemp-sandal wearing KOOKS who like to protest G20 meetings. It
reminds me of the YUPPIE, latte-sipping urban envirokooks in California
who banned mountain bikes from wilderness areas for "degrading to the
environment" while they rode 1500lb horses all over the same place.

amateurphotographer.com

Birdwatching photographers under fire in Peak District

Tuesday 7th April 2009
Chris Cheesman

Photographers' behaviour has been blamed for a fall in the survival rates
of nesting dipper birds in the Derbyshire Peak District, prompting an
appeal by conservationists.

'Unfortunately, disturbances at one or two of the key dipper sites has
had a direct and negative impact on their nesting success in recent
years,' said Phil Bowler, senior reserve manager at the Derbyshire Dales
National Nature Reserve.

If disturbed, dipper 'chicks' may leave their nest too early - increasing
their vulnerability to predators, warns the conservation watchdog Natural
England.

The risks to a bird's survival also include the attraction of predators
to the nest itself if it is disturbed as a result of it being inspected.

Natural England has issued written advice for photographers which states:
'A number of isolated instances of photographer behaviour have called
into question the ethics of some photographers.'

It continues: 'We do not wish to stop photography, but to encourage
photographers to behave in a responsible manner at nesting sites,
reducing disturbance levels to dippers as much as possible.'

The watchdog's advice leaflet warns photographers to not attempt any
photography during the nesting season (March to July) until they know
where the dipper's nest is. 'This may mean that you will need to retreat
a few metres and watch the movements of the birds until you have located
it [the nest].'

The leaflet was drawn up with the help of photographer Paul Hobson who
said: 'As a photographer, I know that it is entirely possible to get
shots of these beautiful birds successfully, without disturbing them.'

Hobson, whose work has been featured in Amateur Photographer, added: 'We
are hoping photographers and other interested people understand the
reasons behind this code of conduct and follow it.'

Bowler said he hopes the leaflet will raise awareness of the problem
among photographers and casual visitors. He added: 'Simple things such as
limiting the time at the site can make a real difference.'

The advice concludes by telling photographers: 'The welfare of the
subject is more important than your photography.'

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Old April 9th 09, 01:14 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
TonyCooper
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On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 16:47:25 -0700 (PDT), Nicko
wrote:

On Apr 8, 6:31*pm, Rich wrote:
These people are the kind who want nature reserved only for their kind,
the hemp-sandal wearing KOOKS who like to protest G20 meetings. *It
reminds me of the YUPPIE, latte-sipping urban envirokooks in California
who banned mountain bikes from wilderness areas for "degrading to the
environment" while they rode 1500lb horses all over the same place.


If there is a problem, it is with people of YOUR kind--who want nature
reserved for them to exploit regardless of the consequences for anyone
but yourself, you arrogant, solipsistic ****.

You have to admire someone who insults with this degree of panache.
"Solipsistic ****", indeed.

--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
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Old April 9th 09, 03:33 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
Ray Fischer
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Rich wrote:
These people are the kind who want nature reserved only for their kind,


As opposed to you people who want the freedom to kill anything and
steal anything that isn't nailed down?

--
Ray Fischer


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Old April 9th 09, 06:26 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
Jer
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Rich wrote:
These people are the kind who want nature reserved only for their kind,
the hemp-sandal wearing KOOKS who like to protest G20 meetings. It
reminds me of the YUPPIE, latte-sipping urban envirokooks in California
who banned mountain bikes from wilderness areas for "degrading to the
environment" while they rode 1500lb horses all over the same place.



What's wrong with being reminded of the importance for being careful?
Besides, the exhaust from mountain bikes is quite different from that of
horses, and a horse fart disturbs the neighborhood a lot less. And you
know this.


--
jer
email reply - I am not a 'ten'
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Old April 9th 09, 07:04 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
Atheist Chaplain[_3_]
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"Jer" wrote in message
news
Rich wrote:
These people are the kind who want nature reserved only for their kind,
the hemp-sandal wearing KOOKS who like to protest G20 meetings. It
reminds me of the YUPPIE, latte-sipping urban envirokooks in California
who banned mountain bikes from wilderness areas for "degrading to the
environment" while they rode 1500lb horses all over the same place.



What's wrong with being reminded of the importance for being careful?
Besides, the exhaust from mountain bikes is quite different from that of
horses, and a horse fart disturbs the neighborhood a lot less. And you
know this.


--
jer
email reply - I am not a 'ten'


what exhaust would that be from the mountain bike, the much smaller farts
from the rider or the puffing and panting as the rider is pedaling harder ??

--
[This comment is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Church of
Scientology International]
"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your
Christ." Gandhi

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Old April 9th 09, 07:58 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
Martin Brown
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Rich wrote:
These people are the kind who want nature reserved only for their kind,


As opposed to you people who want the freedom to kill anything and
steal anything that isn't nailed down?


He is well known in other groups as a longstanding redneck troll and
wannbe member of "Fat Ugly Americans for a Dead Planet". He is
apparently a Canuk.

The advice from natural England on how to locate rare ground nesting
birds nests for photography without disturbing them seemed OK to me.

Regards,
Martin Brown
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Old April 9th 09, 11:21 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
Bruce[_4_]
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Twibil wrote:

Good to hear that you hate environmentalists. But to remain self-
consistant, from now on you're going to be limited to breathing only
diesel exhaust and drinking only industrial waste.

If you *truly hate* those nasty environmentalists I'm sure that you
won't mind making this small sacrifice, and besides: it's a good bet
that nobody here is going to miss you much anyway.



I'm sure that one of the people who will miss him most is you, because
you will lose the opportunity to appear as "clever" in replying to the
"idiot" as you did above.

Don't feed the trolls!

(Yes, I know. I just did)

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Old April 9th 09, 03:23 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
Jer
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Atheist Chaplain wrote:
"Jer" wrote in message
news
Rich wrote:
These people are the kind who want nature reserved only for their
kind, the hemp-sandal wearing KOOKS who like to protest G20
meetings. It reminds me of the YUPPIE, latte-sipping urban
envirokooks in California who banned mountain bikes from wilderness
areas for "degrading to the environment" while they rode 1500lb
horses all over the same place.



What's wrong with being reminded of the importance for being careful?
Besides, the exhaust from mountain bikes is quite different from that
of horses, and a horse fart disturbs the neighborhood a lot less. And
you know this.


--
jer
email reply - I am not a 'ten'


what exhaust would that be from the mountain bike, the much smaller
farts from the rider or the puffing and panting as the rider is pedaling
harder ??


A mountain bike here has a motor, but that term can also infer the more
pedestrian bicycle. Sorry, don't mean to confuse.

--
jer
email reply - I am not a 'ten'
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Old April 9th 09, 04:07 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
HEMI-Powered[_2_]
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Rich added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

These people are the kind who want nature reserved only for
their kind, the hemp-sandal wearing KOOKS who like to protest
G20 meetings. It reminds me of the YUPPIE, latte-sipping urban
envirokooks in California who banned mountain bikes from
wilderness areas for "degrading to the environment" while they
rode 1500lb horses all over the same place.

amateurphotographer.com

Birdwatching photographers under fire in Peak District

Tuesday 7th April 2009
Chris Cheesman

Photographers' behaviour has been blamed for a fall in the
survival rates of nesting dipper birds in the Derbyshire Peak
District, prompting an appeal by conservationists.

'Unfortunately, disturbances at one or two of the key dipper
sites has had a direct and negative impact on their nesting
success in recent years,' said Phil Bowler, senior reserve
manager at the Derbyshire Dales National Nature Reserve.

If disturbed, dipper 'chicks' may leave their nest too early -
increasing their vulnerability to predators, warns the
conservation watchdog Natural England.

The risks to a bird's survival also include the attraction of
predators to the nest itself if it is disturbed as a result of
it being inspected.

Natural England has issued written advice for photographers
which states: 'A number of isolated instances of photographer
behaviour have called into question the ethics of some
photographers.'

It continues: 'We do not wish to stop photography, but to
encourage photographers to behave in a responsible manner at
nesting sites, reducing disturbance levels to dippers as much as
possible.'

The watchdog's advice leaflet warns photographers to not attempt
any photography during the nesting season (March to July) until
they know where the dipper's nest is. 'This may mean that you
will need to retreat a few metres and watch the movements of the
birds until you have located it [the nest].'

The leaflet was drawn up with the help of photographer Paul
Hobson who said: 'As a photographer, I know that it is entirely
possible to get shots of these beautiful birds successfully,
without disturbing them.'

Hobson, whose work has been featured in Amateur Photographer,
added: 'We are hoping photographers and other interested people
understand the reasons behind this code of conduct and follow
it.'

Bowler said he hopes the leaflet will raise awareness of the
problem among photographers and casual visitors. He added:
'Simple things such as limiting the time at the site can make a
real difference.'

The advice concludes by telling photographers: 'The welfare of
the subject is more important than your photography.'

Like all liberal Far Left Loons, and the subset of Green Nazis,
these clowns don't like to be confused by the facts. I don't have
the time and inclination to cite the truth, so I'll only comment
that the particular genre of Far Left Loons protesting in London
were not only Green Nazis, but Socialist Loons and avowed
anarchists who resorrte do damaging private property and attempting
to garner attention by painting themselves with fake blood to make
it look like they were victims of police brutality.

--
HP, aka Jerry

"Laid off yet? Keep buying foreign and you soon will be!" - popular
bumper sticker


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Old April 9th 09, 04:22 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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On 2009-04-08 16:31:14 -0700, Rich said:

These people are the kind who want nature reserved only for their kind,
the hemp-sandal wearing KOOKS who like to protest G20 meetings.


Those guys are running things now. At the more extreme end, people like
Bill McKibben, author of "The End of Nature," are demanding a
moratorium on ALL wildlife photography. McKibben says that there are
already plenty of photos available for publication and that we do not
need any more. More moderate types favor varying degrees of
restrictions to access.

Irresponsible photographers who damage wildlife habitat and stress
animals provide a great deal of ammunition to the Bill McKibbens of the
world. We either clean up our act or the curtain comes down,
permanently. And we would not want to see that, would we?

One of the problems that the more extreme activists do not seem to see
or care about is that as they continually add more and more
restrictions to public access to wildlife and wilderness, the public
becomes more and more detached from our natural wonders -- and they
will begin to care less about them, not more. This form of activism may
well be the environmental movement's worst enemy.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

 




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