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Photo of dying marine: was it right for AP to publish?
Doug McDonald wrote:
RichA wrote: Kulvinder Singh Matharu wrote: Came across this article about AP publishing a photo of a dying US marine and the controversy surrounding it. There hasn't been much news here in the UK about it but I expect that it's big news in the US. There was no news value in it, the media outlets, threatened by falling usage and viewers are desperate and will do anything to drum up an audience. The picture itself is no news. The scum left-wing media use these to try to make people feel sick and therefore want to lose a war. Its standard stuff and long since the whole affair is well known. And after all, telling the taxpayers how their money is being spent cannot have any relevance. When neocons and rightards want to kill people there can be no criticism tolerated. -- Ray Fischer |
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Photo of dying marine: was it right for AP to publish?
Doug McDonald wrote:
DG wrote: If people are upset about the photo then they should blame the politicians for the war, not the photographer for the image. NO! They should blame the scum people who print it against the family's wishes, and the people who started the war: al Qaeda and the Taliban. That's a rightard lie. It was Bush and the neocons who started the war. There is nothing wrong with the photographer taking it ... if the family had agreed, publishing it would have been OK. The soldier was there on the taxpayer's dime. The taxpayers have the right to know how their money is being spent. -- Ray Fischer |
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Photo of dying marine: was it right for AP to publish?
Doug McDonald wrote:
Annika1980 wrote: On Sep 7, 8:10 pm, Doug McDonald wrote: NO! They should blame the scum people who print it against the family's wishes, and the people who started the war: al Qaeda and the Taliban. There is nothing wrong with the photographer taking it ... if the family had agreed, publishing it would have been OK. Since when does a photojournalist or a media outlet need permission to take or publish pics? \ When COMMON DECENCY suggests so, that's when! There is nothing decent about war. What you want is to hide the cost of the war that you want fought. -- Ray Fischer |
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Photo of dying marine: was it right for AP to publish?
Doug McDonald wrote:
wrote: ...And if the picture was of you -- and the last memory your children would have of you, would it still be okay to publish it? Yes, absolutely. But I would like for the people showing it to note that I died to prevent the atrocities perpetrated on the innocent 9/11 victims from happening again. Absent that, I would expect my family to point out to my children how the left wing scum had used my image for their purposes. What's "left wing" about showing war as it is? Can you see any correlation between peace and left:right politics here?: http://www.visionofhumanity.org/gpi/home.php |
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Photo of dying marine: was it right for AP to publish?
Kulvinder Singh Matharu wrote:
Came across this article about AP publishing a photo of a dying US marine and the controversy surrounding it. There hasn't been much news here in the UK about it but I expect that it's big news in the US. http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/53173,news,photograph-of-dying-marine-joshua-bernard-was-it-right-for-the-associated-press-to-publish I'm all up for showing how things are and the press have done so on may occasions, but at the same time the family must be very upset. So I'm in two minds about this. Storm in a tea cup? Or genuine concern on showing dead or dying NATO/ISAF soldiers? So why the big deal all of the sudden about a war photo? Why is any different to old black and white photos of soldiers torn apart on the battle field of WW1 or the Aussie soldier blindfolded on his knees with a japanese soldier raising the sword above his head to decapitate him or images of Jews being executed in front of mass grave pits or that Viet cong dude being shot in the head. What about websites like rotten.com or ogrish showing photos of car accidents or murders, sometime in the futre the families of these victims may come across them. We are now in the communication age thanks to the internet, the only way to stop images like this being published is to ban cameras. Humans have a morbid curiosity for images like this. |
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Photo of dying marine: was it right for AP to publish?
Me wrote:
Doug McDonald wrote: wrote: ...And if the picture was of you -- and the last memory your children would have of you, would it still be okay to publish it? Yes, absolutely. But I would like for the people showing it to note that I died to prevent the atrocities perpetrated on the innocent 9/11 victims from happening again. Absent that, I would expect my family to point out to my children how the left wing scum had used my image for their purposes. What's "left wing" about showing war as it is? When rightard wingnuts want to kill people, any criticism makes one a "left wing scum". Too bad that there were not more "left wing scum" living in Germany 70 years ago. -- Ray Fischer |
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