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Old December 7th 08, 06:23 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Alan Browne
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Default Pixels, schmixels, and aspect ratios

NadCixelsyd wrote:
After years of point-and-shoot, I'm considering a Nikon D40 or a D90.

I found one web site that appears pretty informative. His opinion is
that six megapixels (The D40) is more than enough for all but the real
super-professional. Opinions??

My past cameras had an aspect ratio of 4:3. I don't know whether it's
standard, but the new Nikons only have 3:2, the same as film cameras.
Is 3:2 becoming a standard for digital photography?


There is no "standard" aspect ratio in photography.

But if there WERE to be one it should be:

SQRT(2):1 so that enlargements would fit ISO 216 "A" paper sizes.




The DSLR's that evolved from film cameras (Nikon, Canon, Pentax,
Minolta/Sony) are all 3:2 whether cropped or full frame. Oly went 4:3.

The more common aspect ratios a

5:4 (from the 8x10 inch film days; cuts to half size 4x5 inches -
these are the origin of the "8x10" print).

9:6 (9x6 centimeters and its half frame 6x4.5cm called "645")

1:1 (6x6 cm [56x56mm])

3:2 (35mm film (24x36mm)).

3:2 (9x6 centimeters and its half frame 6x4.5cm called "645")

4:3 (not sure where it comes from, but it is also the "standard"
for the four-thirds format).

Surely others, but I don't know them offhand.

6:7 (I don't know the origin of this other than it simply being a
more rectangular variant of the 6x6 or 6x9.)

So, there is no standard for photography aspect ratios.

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Old December 7th 08, 09:15 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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There is no "standard" aspect ratio in photography.

But if there WERE to be one it should be:

SQRT(2):1 so that enlargements would fit ISO 216 "A" paper sizes.


Sure - and you probably think that weiners should be packaged in numbers to
match that of hot dog buns.

Both would make way too much sense to be practical.



Eric Miller
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Old December 7th 08, 09:30 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Alan Browne
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Eric Miller wrote:
There is no "standard" aspect ratio in photography.

But if there WERE to be one it should be:

SQRT(2):1 so that enlargements would fit ISO 216 "A" paper sizes.


Sure - and you probably think that weiners should be packaged in numbers to
match that of hot dog buns.

Both would make way too much sense to be practical.


I rarely buy them but this past summer I picked up each and marveled at
the idiocy. Seems to me a bread co. could make a good, funny and
irreverent pitch based on this ...

I would relish you spelling 'wiener' correctly otherwise you will be
plonked for not cutting the mustard.

"Get your buns a circle!" -John Wayne, famous hot-dog chef.

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Old December 7th 08, 11:31 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Alan Browne
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NadCixelsyd wrote:
There is no "standard" aspect ratio in photography.

But if there WERE to be one it should be:

SQRT(2):1 so that enlargements would fit ISO 216 "A" paper sizes.

I disagree. It should be 1.6 (like newer computer monitors) or,
ideally, the golden ratio: 1.618


No standard paper is cut to 1.6 or the Golden Mean in various sizes.
(although legal is close - but only at that one size).

The point is that the standard "A" paper sizes are all proportional at
SQRT(2):1 regardless of size which makes re-sizing between paper sizes
much easier.

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Old December 8th 08, 12:45 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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In article ,
Alan Browne wrote:

3:2 (9x6 centimeters and its half frame 6x4.5cm called "645")

4:3 (not sure where it comes from, but it is also the "standard"
for the four-thirds format).


6x4.5 obviously is 3:4

Lourens
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Old December 8th 08, 11:03 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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Lourens Smak wrote:
In article ,
Alan Browne wrote:

3:2 (9x6 centimeters and its half frame 6x4.5cm called "645")

4:3 (not sure where it comes from, but it is also the "standard"
for the four-thirds format).


6x4.5 obviously is 3:4


Come to the front of the class for your gold star Lourens...

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Old December 9th 08, 07:57 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
David J Taylor[_7_]
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Alan Browne wrote:
Lourens Smak wrote:
In article ,
Alan Browne wrote:

3:2 (9x6 centimeters and its half frame 6x4.5cm called "645")

4:3 (not sure where it comes from, but it is also the
"standard" for the four-thirds format).


6x4.5 obviously is 3:4


Come to the front of the class for your gold star Lourens...


Except that's backwards....

G

David
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Old December 9th 08, 11:15 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Alan Browne
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David J Taylor wrote:
Alan Browne wrote:
Lourens Smak wrote:
In article ,
Alan Browne wrote:

3:2 (9x6 centimeters and its half frame 6x4.5cm called "645")

4:3 (not sure where it comes from, but it is also the
"standard" for the four-thirds format).

6x4.5 obviously is 3:4


Come to the front of the class for your gold star Lourens...


Except that's backwards....


Not from where I sit...

G


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Old December 19th 08, 10:51 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
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Alan Browne wrote:

There is no "standard" aspect ratio in photography.


But if there WERE to be one it should be:


SQRT(2):1 so that enlargements would fit ISO 216 "A" paper sizes.


*BZZZT*
It should be the (image) circle.
Unless your lenses have rectangular front elements ...

The circle would allow you to
- correct any image tilt without the need to crop.
- choose any ratio at all and still use the largest possible area
your lens offers, from square to thin panoramic views.
- there's no difference between 'landscape' and 'portrait' during
shooting, you can choose that during development.

-Wolfgang
 




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