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Don't get me started on the topic of Canadian healthcare. It is nowhere
near anything what it is supposed to be: Hospitals are overcrouded! Service is C---! Nurses are overworked! (I know, I am one!) You want true universality? Then we should include Optometry, Dentistry and Pharmacy services; but our government is too stingy to spend any DECENT amount of monies where they should! What does Mr. Martin do with this SURPLUS we've been running since he was Minister of Finance? Hell, true Universality: Take healthcare out of the Provinces' jurisdiction and make it exclusively a federal jurisdiction so that ALL provinces get the same services. Right now the ones with bigger voices (Quebec and Ontario) seem to get the "Lions' Share". Sorry, Just had to rant. Jennifer in BC. |
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In article , ian
lincoln wrote: I have a sneaking suspicion americans pay a lot in dental fees. Uh, yeah. Fortunately I have good teeth, but the first dentist I mentioned is into my ladyfriend for about $50,000 over the last 4 years. |
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wrote in message oups.com... Don't get me started on the topic of Canadian healthcare. It is nowhere near anything what it is supposed to be: Hospitals are overcrouded! Service is C---! Nurses are overworked! (I know, I am one!) You want true universality? Then we should include Optometry, Dentistry and Pharmacy services; but our government is too stingy to spend any DECENT amount of monies where they should! What does Mr. Martin do with this SURPLUS we've been running since he was Minister of Finance? Hell, true Universality: Take healthcare out of the Provinces' jurisdiction and make it exclusively a federal jurisdiction so that ALL provinces get the same services. Right now the ones with bigger voices (Quebec and Ontario) seem to get the "Lions' Share". Sorry, Just had to rant. Jennifer in BC. Why don't you consider getting it out of the government's hands altogether, and making it a competitive, private enterprise business? If you don't like the services provided by one hospital/HMO, then you can go to another, and give your money to the people who do the job best, just like you do when you buy groceries or clothing, or automobile insurance. Not that that's the way it is here in the US.....Our health services have been screwed up by socialism just as bad as yours have. For some reason, people think, "important" things should be handled by their governments. They never seem to get the message that anything the government touches gets destroyed by the inefficiency that comes with lack of competition, and guaranteed permanent employment no matter how badly you do your job. End of my, "rant". |
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Jennifer,
I sympathize with you on your frustration on your job; my sister-in-law is a nurse in Ottawa and I hear her complain about the shortages constantly. However, I must mention that our healthcare system, with all its faults, has one advantage we cannot take for granted: Should anyone of us have a serious accident which would cause us to be hospitalized, our healthcare system pays for our stay, our Doctors, our Therapists, our Nurses, our medications while in hospital. I cannot imagine the cost I would have had to incure when I was involved in a highway accident last winter and was in the hospital for 3 weeks. Jennifer, yours is a wonderful job. RobGN |
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"RobGN" wrote in message
oups.com... Jennifer, I sympathize with you on your frustration on your job; my sister-in-law is a nurse in Ottawa and I hear her complain about the shortages constantly. However, I must mention that our healthcare system, with all its faults, has one advantage we cannot take for granted: Should anyone of us have a serious accident which would cause us to be hospitalized, our healthcare system pays for our stay, our Doctors, our Therapists, our Nurses, our medications while in hospital. I cannot imagine the cost I would have had to incure when I was involved in a highway accident last winter and was in the hospital for 3 weeks. Jennifer, yours is a wonderful job. RobGN Gotta agree with you there, but the system is in serious need of a major overhaul. Sure would be nice if opthalmology / optometry, dentistry and pharmaceutical drugs were covered under the healthcare plan, but I don't know of anywhere in the world where that exists. Even private insurance plans, most only cover up to 90%, providing you pay the extra premiums (or your union has negociated a really good deal). ~Robert C. |
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In article .com,
RobGN wrote: However, I must mention that our healthcare system, with all its faults, has one advantage we cannot take for granted: Should anyone of us have a serious accident which would cause us to be hospitalized, our healthcare system pays for our stay, our Doctors, our Therapists, our Nurses, our medications while in hospital. I cannot imagine the cost I would have had to incure when I was involved in a highway accident last winter and was in the hospital for 3 weeks. A few years ago, a friend of mine was hit by a bus while crossing the street in Denmark. It was probably even his fault; no one asked or cared. They scooped him up, took him to the hospital, and fixed him. As he tells it, there was almost no paperwork - they only asked his name and address so they could let his family know where he was. If government is going to run healthcare, THAT'S how it should work. Of course, they have a 50% income tax to pay for it - but I'm told it's the ONLY tax, so it's probably equivalent to the total tax load we have in the US. IMHO, our biggest problem with our current system in the states is the insurance industry. Aside from the incredible cost of the paperwork to track it all, there's no reason to find ways to make it affordable - the consumer is never really faced with the cost. My fathers (unsucessful) cancer treatment was over half a million dollars! If we routinely charge more for services than ANYONE could pay, it can only come crashing down on us eventually. |
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Scott Schuckert wrote:
In article .com, RobGN wrote: However, I must mention that our healthcare system, with all its faults, has one advantage we cannot take for granted: Should anyone of us have a serious accident which would cause us to be hospitalized, our healthcare system pays for our stay, our Doctors, our Therapists, our Nurses, our medications while in hospital. I cannot imagine the cost I would have had to incure when I was involved in a highway accident last winter and was in the hospital for 3 weeks. A few years ago, a friend of mine was hit by a bus while crossing the street in Denmark. It was probably even his fault; no one asked or cared. They scooped him up, took him to the hospital, and fixed him. As he tells it, there was almost no paperwork - they only asked his name and address so they could let his family know where he was. If government is going to run healthcare, THAT'S how it should work. Of course, they have a 50% income tax to pay for it - but I'm told it's the ONLY tax, so it's probably equivalent to the total tax load we have in the US. IMHO, our biggest problem with our current system in the states is the insurance industry. Aside from the incredible cost of the paperwork to track it all, there's no reason to find ways to make it affordable - the consumer is never really faced with the cost. My fathers (unsucessful) cancer treatment was over half a million dollars! If we routinely charge more for services than ANYONE could pay, it can only come crashing down on us eventually. In Quebec, we do have the public healthcare system. And we do pay the highest taxes in North America. If the service was good, it wouldn't be a problem. But the service is crap. People are actually dying while on waiting list for a surgery. The systems is so badly administrated that it is just useless to put any more money into it. On top of that, we probably have the highest union rate in North America as well and, of course, all public sector workers are unionized. Result, if you're sick you better have good contacts to bypass the few months waiting list to see a specialist... |
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Jennifer, yours is a wonderful job.
Thank-You. J. |
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"Scott Schuckert" wrote in message ... [ . . . ] A few years ago, a friend of mine was hit by a bus while crossing the street in Denmark. It was probably even his fault; no one asked or cared. They scooped him up, took him to the hospital, and fixed him. As he tells it, there was almost no paperwork - they only asked his name and address so they could let his family know where he was. If government is going to run healthcare, THAT'S how it should work. Of course, they have a 50% income tax to pay for it - but I'm told it's the ONLY tax, so it's probably equivalent to the total tax load we have in the US. I doubt it's their ONLY tax. No property taxes, sales (or value added) taxes? IMHO, our biggest problem with our current system in the states is the insurance industry. Aside from the incredible cost of the paperwork to track it all, there's no reason to find ways to make it affordable - the consumer is never really faced with the cost. You've sure got that right, though I wouldn't blame it all on the insurance industry. Like any other business they're in it to make money. Government passes the laws, sets the rules, creates the environment. The insurance industry only works within that environment to maximize profits, which is exactly what the shareholders expect them to do. The problem now is that you *have* to have the insurance or you really get it stuck to you. Physicians (and to a lesser degree, dentists) bill outrageous fees, which are radically adjusted downward by Medicare and/or insurance companies, which adjustments the practitioner has to accept--or lose the business the insured patients bring him. If the patient *doesn't* have insurance he gets stuck with those inflated fees, and has no choice in the matter since any other practitioner will likely be just as overpriced. Neil |
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