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Old October 1st 09, 07:34 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Chris H
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Default The Value Of An Apology, At Least From A Republican's Perspective!!

In message , Bill Graham
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"DRS" wrote in message news:gaSdndFLGuUoe1
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The Geneva Convention does not, as far as I know, offer any protection
whatever to combatants who are not part of any recognized military
force. If you think it does, show me where.

Combatants captured not in proper uniform are not POWs and have no
rights at all -- they can be and have been just executed on the spot.
That's been the rule for at least a few hundred years.


Every person has rights. Many of the detainees at Guananemo have
been shown to have not been involved in terrorist activities and were
captured by mistake. That is why civilised countries insist on the
rule of law, where no person may be detained without due process,
something the Bush administration fought every step of the way. It
is not acceptable to merely deem someone a terrorist or a criminal by
fiat. It must be established by evidence.


In wartime, anyone who is a citizen of the other side that is caught
out of uniform in your territory is a spy, and can be shot
unceremoniously.


No... Where did you get that stupid idea?
Most countries have the death penalty for treason .
A spy is tried as a CIVILIAN and when found guilty by due process is
sentenced.

It used to be shooting or hanging. These days in Europe and other
civilised parts of the world we don't have the death penalty. We leave
that to the axis of evil such as Iran, N.Korea, Israel, China and the
USA (the USA executing more than any of the others)

So, the argument comes down to things like: Are we really in "wartime"?

Not in Iraq or Afghanistan. Technically it is a Police action

Who is a citizen of, "The other side"? - Is there an, "other side"?

No. There is no "other side" There is no enemy country or Army

What is the other sides, "Uniform"?

There is no "other side" it is civilian criminals.

IOW, things are a lot more complicated that they at first seem.


No they are quite simple.

And there certainly is lots of room for argument over what is
acceptable and what is not.


No there is no room at all...

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