Live LCD preview soon to come for a dSLR?

The review of the KM Dynax 5D at dcresource.com contains the following
sentence, which is very intriguing at least to me:

"Just a reminder for those of you new to D-SLRs: the LCD screen is
for
menus and post-shot review online: you cannot compose photos
using
the LCD. (That will soon change on another D-SLR, though.)"

Anybody who knows what this is about?

Jan Böhme

"John A. Stovall" wrote in message
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On 20 Jan 2006 16:09:16 -0800, "Jan Böhme" wrote:

Why would anyone want it? It's just another way to Chimp. If you
can't compose a picture in the view finder of a dSLR you need to find
a new hobby.

Have you considered the arms-extended-over-the-head shot?
The self portrait?
And the extreme one: the round-the-corner-shot-of-the-shootout?
Not to mention the ground-level-portrait of the bug.

I can see *lots* of good uses for this, and I *don't* need a new hobby. Not
yet.

--
Jeff R.

Why would anyone want it? It's just another way to Chimp. If you
can't compose a picture in the view finder of a dSLR you need to find
a new hobby.



If that were true, Polaroid backs for medium/large format cameras would have
never been invented.


Personally, I find it so much easier to view a 2d image of the scene as it
allows you to view the image more or less as it would appear in the final
print. It allows you to 'stand back' from the image and view the composition
from a distance.

Put it this way. If it COULD be done what is the downside except for perhaps
reduced battery life? It's not something that you would be forced to use.


I can compose a picture just fine, but believe I compose even better with a
2D representation of the scene.


Most 'real world' situations aren't that 'black & white'

On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 00:42:56 GMT, John A. Stovall
wrote:

On 20 Jan 2006 16:09:16 -0800, "Jan Böhme" wrote:

The review of the KM Dynax 5D at dcresource.com contains the following
sentence, which is very intriguing at least to me:

"Just a reminder for those of you new to D-SLRs: the LCD screen is
for
menus and post-shot review online: you cannot compose photos
using
the LCD. (That will soon change on another D-SLR, though.)"

Anybody who knows what this is about?

Why would anyone want it? It's just another way to Chimp. If you
can't compose a picture in the view finder of a dSLR you need to find
a new hobby.


Never try to shoot from ground level.
-Rich

"Jeff R" wrote in message
u...

And the extreme one: the round-the-corner-shot-of-the-shootout?

Real photographers stick their head around the corner too

In article .com, Jan
Böhme wrote:

Anybody who knows what this is about?

There is a rumor that Olympus is coming out a body like the E300, which
has a mirror arrangement which might be able to be used to beam split
for live preview.

--
Charles

Why would anyone want it? It's just another way to Chimp. If you
can't compose a picture in the view finder of a dSLR you need to find
a new hobby.

If that were true, Polaroid backs for medium/large format cameras would
have never been invented.

Waist-level viewfinders wouldn't have been invented, either. If it comes
down to a ****ing match over who is a "real" photographer or who uses a
"real" camera, squinting through the viewfinder of a 35mm camera doesn't
make for a very convincing argument.

Ansel sure must have been a real chump, "chimping" at that big
ground-glass from a foot or two away for ten, twenty, or thirty minutes
before even making an exposure. Those crazy ideas of making the camera work
for the person instead of the other way around sure are nutty.

steve

There are two reasons for why DSLRs cannot have live preview
currently:-

1. There is a mirror seats in the mirror housing to reflect the light
right up to the optical viewfinder of any DSLR, which block the light
from reaching the CCD/CMOS;

2. The *large* CCD/CMOS imagers are not designed for live preview,
owing to the low refresh rate and the high power it consumes. It is
designed to capture instanteous images with the highest possible
quality.

It should be noted that if live preview is required, the shutter need
to be opened too all the time such that light can fall onto the sensors.

John A. Stovall writes:

On 20 Jan 2006 16:09:16 -0800, "Jan Böhme" wrote:

The review of the KM Dynax 5D at dcresource.com contains the following
sentence, which is very intriguing at least to me:

"Just a reminder for those of you new to D-SLRs: the LCD screen is
for
menus and post-shot review online: you cannot compose photos
using
the LCD. (That will soon change on another D-SLR, though.)"

Anybody who knows what this is about?

Why would anyone want it? It's just another way to Chimp. If you
can't compose a picture in the view finder of a dSLR you need to find
a new hobby.

You've obviously never wanted to take a picture from a high or low
angle where it was very inconvenient to get your eye to the
viewfinder. Most SLR companies made right-angle finders, which helped
somewhat with this, but most of us didn't actually *buy* them; we just
did without. An LCD screen, especially a tilt/swivel one, that one
could compose on would be *very* useful on an SLR. In fact, I
consider the complex, delicate, noisy, vibration-producing, and
expensive optical and mechanical system for viewing through the lens
to be something of a drawback in a camera (not that it doesn't have
advantages; but those advantages come with costs, and I was very happy
doing a lot of photography with a Leica M3 for years, though I also
used an SLR for other kinds of photography even then).
--
David Dyer-Bennet, , http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/
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"Steve Franklin" writes:

Why would anyone want it? It's just another way to Chimp. If you
can't compose a picture in the view finder of a dSLR you need to find
a new hobby.



If that were true, Polaroid backs for medium/large format cameras would have
never been invented.

And for 35mm cameras.

Then there's the gadget that connects to the eyecup, has a small CCD
sensor and a moderate sized LCD screen, and gives you video preview
that way. It gives you the ability to see it from funny angles, and it
works on film as well as digital SLRs.

Ah, here it is: The Zigview, http://www.zigview.co.uk/.
--
David Dyer-Bennet, , http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/
RKBA: http://noguns-nomoney.com/ http://www.dd-b.net/carry/
Pics: http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/ http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/
Dragaera/Steven Brust: http://dragaera.info/