Has your HP printer rejected its 3rd party ink lately?

RichA wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37408173



Hi,

What happened to me is worse. I bought a brand new but discontinued
H-P printer for photos. It is supposed to come with special "starter"
ink cartridges,allegedly to to get the machine ready for use. However,
mine came with standard original new H-P cartridges. I got an error
message that the printer will not work with the genuine H-P cartridges,
but must first be started with H-P starter cartrides. I then contacted
H-P, who said that they do not stock these starters, and do not make
them any more.

I thus have a brand new printer that does not work, I am out time and
money,and H-P obviously does not care at all about my plight. I finally
had to buy a used printer of the same type, at a high price, because I
had a stock of many expensive new ink cartridges already. In addition,
this old printer uses 6 inks, while their newer models use only 4, with
inferior color rendition.

I am disgusted with H-P again.(A few years ago, they switched from
excellent Swiss photo paper to terrible German paper, with the same part
#s.)

Mort Linder

On 2016-09-19 19:03:01 +0000, Mort said:

RichA wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37408173



Hi,

What happened to me is worse. I bought a brand new but discontinued
H-P printer for photos. It is supposed to come with special "starter"
ink cartridges,allegedly to to get the machine ready for use. However,
mine came with standard original new H-P cartridges. I got an error
message that the printer will not work with the genuine H-P cartridges,
but must first be started with H-P starter cartrides. I then contacted
H-P, who said that they do not stock these starters, and do not make
them any more.

I thus have a brand new printer that does not work, I am out time and
money,and H-P obviously does not care at all about my plight. I finally
had to buy a used printer of the same type, at a high price, because I
had a stock of many expensive new ink cartridges already. In addition,
this old printer uses 6 inks, while their newer models use only 4, with
inferior color rendition.

If one uses 6 carts and the other only 4, how can they be of the "same type"?

I am disgusted with H-P again.(A few years ago, they switched from
excellent Swiss photo paper to terrible German paper, with the same
part #s.)

Mort Linder

After my experience with Canon photo printers I have moved into the
Epson camp and I have been quite happy with the performance of the two
I use.
--
Regards,

Savageduck

Savageduck wrote:

If one uses 6 carts and the other only 4, how can they be of the "same
type"?


Hi Duck,


No, no, no. The used printer that I bought is "the same type" and uses
6 inks. The new models use only 4 inks. Also, the new models use
different cartridges,and I would have to throw out several hundred
dollars worth of old-type cartridges if I bought a new printer.

Thanks for your comment.

I hope that the new fire is quickly extinguished.

Mort Linder

In article , Mort
wrote:


What happened to me is worse. I bought a brand new but discontinued
H-P printer for photos. It is supposed to come with special "starter"
ink cartridges,allegedly to to get the machine ready for use. However,
mine came with standard original new H-P cartridges. I got an error
message that the printer will not work with the genuine H-P cartridges,
but must first be started with H-P starter cartrides. I then contacted
H-P, who said that they do not stock these starters, and do not make
them any more.

that doesn't make any sense. starter cartridges are mostly empty so the
'cheap printer' gets you on the hook to buy more ink.

either way, return it as defective. problem solved.

I thus have a brand new printer that does not work, I am out time and
money,and H-P obviously does not care at all about my plight. I finally
had to buy a used printer of the same type, at a high price, because I
had a stock of many expensive new ink cartridges already.

why would a used printer cost more than a new one, if they're the same
type?

In addition,
this old printer uses 6 inks, while their newer models use only 4, with
inferior color rendition.

not necessarily.

In article , Mort
wrote:


No, no, no. The used printer that I bought is "the same type" and uses
6 inks. The new models use only 4 inks. Also, the new models use
different cartridges,and I would have to throw out several hundred
dollars worth of old-type cartridges if I bought a new printer.

then they're not the same type.

On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 18:09:13 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Mort
wrote:


What happened to me is worse. I bought a brand new but discontinued
H-P printer for photos. It is supposed to come with special "starter"
ink cartridges,allegedly to to get the machine ready for use. However,
mine came with standard original new H-P cartridges. I got an error
message that the printer will not work with the genuine H-P cartridges,
but must first be started with H-P starter cartrides. I then contacted
H-P, who said that they do not stock these starters, and do not make
them any more.

that doesn't make any sense. starter cartridges are mostly empty so the
'cheap printer' gets you on the hook to buy more ink.

I was curious too, so I Googled it. They are actually "setup"
cartridges, not starter. They come only with new printers, or with
replacement printheads, and they must be used the first time, and
cannot be used after the first time. I wonder if Mort's printer came
with both, and he overlooked the difference, or if he installed setup
cartridges after they had already been used.


either way, return it as defective. problem solved.

I thus have a brand new printer that does not work, I am out time and
money,and H-P obviously does not care at all about my plight. I finally
had to buy a used printer of the same type, at a high price, because I
had a stock of many expensive new ink cartridges already.

why would a used printer cost more than a new one, if they're the same
type?

In addition,
this old printer uses 6 inks, while their newer models use only 4, with
inferior color rendition.

not necessarily.

On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 16:22:27 -0400, Mort wrote:

Savageduck wrote:

If one uses 6 carts and the other only 4, how can they be of the "same
type"?


Hi Duck,


No, no, no. The used printer that I bought is "the same type" and uses
6 inks. The new models use only 4 inks. Also, the new models use
different cartridges,and I would have to throw out several hundred
dollars worth of old-type cartridges if I bought a new printer.

Thanks for your comment.

I hope that the new fire is quickly extinguished.

Mort Linder

Try this link:
http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Inkjet-...2977995/page/3

There are instructions for a reset, and for a semi-full reset around
the 2d or 3d pages. That seems to have worked for some people.

On 9/19/2016 3:16 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-09-19 19:03:01 +0000, Mort said:

RichA wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37408173



Hi,

What happened to me is worse. I bought a brand new but discontinued
H-P printer for photos. It is supposed to come with special "starter"
ink cartridges,allegedly to to get the machine ready for use.
However, mine came with standard original new H-P cartridges. I got
an error message that the printer will not work with the genuine H-P
cartridges, but must first be started with H-P starter cartrides. I
then contacted H-P, who said that they do not stock these starters,
and do not make them any more.

I thus have a brand new printer that does not work, I am out time and
money,and H-P obviously does not care at all about my plight. I
finally had to buy a used printer of the same type, at a high price,
because I had a stock of many expensive new ink cartridges already.
In addition, this old printer uses 6 inks, while their newer models
use only 4, with inferior color rendition.

If one uses 6 carts and the other only 4, how can they be of the "same
type"?

I am disgusted with H-P again.(A few years ago, they switched from
excellent Swiss photo paper to terrible German paper, with the same
part #s.)

Mort Linder

After my experience with Canon photo printers I have moved into the
Epson camp and I have been quite happy with the performance of the two
I use.

I don't print any photos, my printers are for general use and mostly
used by my wife. My wife rarely needs color prints so I have her using
a Brother laser printer. She tends to print a lot and a laser is more
cost-effective. I use an Epson all-in-one. I've been using Epson
printers for many, many years and the primary reason is the availability
of inexpensive 3rd party inks.

In article , PAS wrote:

On 9/19/2016 3:16 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-09-19 19:03:01 +0000, Mort said:

RichA wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37408173



Hi,

What happened to me is worse. I bought a brand new but discontinued
H-P printer for photos. It is supposed to come with special "starter"
ink cartridges,allegedly to to get the machine ready for use.
However, mine came with standard original new H-P cartridges. I got
an error message that the printer will not work with the genuine H-P
cartridges, but must first be started with H-P starter cartrides. I
then contacted H-P, who said that they do not stock these starters,
and do not make them any more.

I thus have a brand new printer that does not work, I am out time and
money,and H-P obviously does not care at all about my plight. I
finally had to buy a used printer of the same type, at a high price,
because I had a stock of many expensive new ink cartridges already.
In addition, this old printer uses 6 inks, while their newer models
use only 4, with inferior color rendition.

If one uses 6 carts and the other only 4, how can they be of the "same
type"?

I am disgusted with H-P again.(A few years ago, they switched from
excellent Swiss photo paper to terrible German paper, with the same
part #s.)

Mort Linder

After my experience with Canon photo printers I have moved into the
Epson camp and I have been quite happy with the performance of the two
I use.

I don't print any photos, my printers are for general use and mostly
used by my wife. My wife rarely needs color prints so I have her using
a Brother laser printer. She tends to print a lot and a laser is more
cost-effective. I use an Epson all-in-one. I've been using Epson
printers for many, many years and the primary reason is the availability
of inexpensive 3rd party inks.

I have a HP 4P for my office type of needs. Got it a new cartridge last
year so I guess that it got toner for another quarter of a century now...
--
teleportation kills

On 2016-09-20 15:06:03 +0000, PAS said:

On 9/19/2016 3:16 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-09-19 19:03:01 +0000, Mort said:

RichA wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37408173



Hi,

What happened to me is worse. I bought a brand new but discontinued
H-P printer for photos. It is supposed to come with special "starter"
ink cartridges,allegedly to to get the machine ready for use. However,
mine came with standard original new H-P cartridges. I got an error
message that the printer will not work with the genuine H-P cartridges,
but must first be started with H-P starter cartrides. I then contacted
H-P, who said that they do not stock these starters, and do not make
them any more.

I thus have a brand new printer that does not work, I am out time and
money,and H-P obviously does not care at all about my plight. I finally
had to buy a used printer of the same type, at a high price, because I
had a stock of many expensive new ink cartridges already. In addition,
this old printer uses 6 inks, while their newer models use only 4, with
inferior color rendition.

If one uses 6 carts and the other only 4, how can they be of the "same type"?

I am disgusted with H-P again.(A few years ago, they switched from
excellent Swiss photo paper to terrible German paper, with the same
part #s.)

Mort Linder

After my experience with Canon photo printers I have moved into the
Epson camp and I have been quite happy with the performance of the two
I use.

I don't print any photos, my printers are for general use and mostly
used by my wife. My wife rarely needs color prints so I have her using
a Brother laser printer. She tends to print a lot and a laser is more
cost-effective. I use an Epson all-in-one. I've been using Epson
printers for many, many years and the primary reason is the
availability of inexpensive 3rd party inks.

My high quality photo prints on high quality papers (these days I have
settled on Red River Papers), up to 13"x19" I do at home on my Epson
R2880, which is fine for my needs. When I need a larger print, or
special mount, I farm the task out to either MPix, or BayPhoto.

For my general printing and occasional quick photo print I also use an
Epson "All-in-one" (XP-610). I don't use 3rd party inks and it has
proven to be economical and trouble free. If I had to buy a new general
purpose printer today it would be one of the new Epson "EcoTank"
printers.
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/jsp/Landing/ecotank-super-tank-printers.do?

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Regards,

Savageduck