Sigma Goes Cine

Rewrapping photolenses and market them as cine is apparently the
thing now. This seem to be the Sigma Art line in new cases:

http://www.cameraegg.org/sigma-annou...enses-3-zoom-5
-prime/
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teleportation kills

On 9/8/2016 12:17 AM, android wrote:
Rewrapping photolenses and market them as cine is apparently the
thing now. This seem to be the Sigma Art line in new cases:

http://www.cameraegg.org/sigma-annou...enses-3-zoom-5
-prime/

On what are you basing your notion that these are re-wrapped photo
lenses? You did read the article you linked, didn't you? And, you do
know the difference between cine and photo lenses, right?

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Best regards,

Neil

In article , Neil
wrote:

On 9/8/2016 12:17 AM, android wrote:
Rewrapping photolenses and market them as cine is apparently the
thing now. This seem to be the Sigma Art line in new cases:

http://www.cameraegg.org/sigma-annou...enses-3-zoom-5
-prime/

On what are you basing your notion that these are re-wrapped photo
lenses?

There is a obvious match to the Arts in focal length and T/F values.
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teleportation kills

On 9/8/2016 9:17 AM, android wrote:
In article , Neil
wrote:

On 9/8/2016 12:17 AM, android wrote:
Rewrapping photolenses and market them as cine is apparently the
thing now. This seem to be the Sigma Art line in new cases:

http://www.cameraegg.org/sigma-annou...enses-3-zoom-5
-prime/

On what are you basing your notion that these are re-wrapped photo
lenses?
There is a obvious match to the Arts in focal length and T/F values.

So? Does that mean they are just "re-wrapped"? The 18-35mm and
50-100mm Art lenses are for APS-C sensor cameras. The Cinema versions
are for full-frame as well as APS-C. That's not a re-wrapped version of
an existing lens, that's a different lens.

In article , PAS wrote:

On 9/8/2016 9:17 AM, android wrote:
In article , Neil
wrote:

On 9/8/2016 12:17 AM, android wrote:
Rewrapping photolenses and market them as cine is apparently the
thing now. This seem to be the Sigma Art line in new cases:

http://www.cameraegg.org/sigma-annou...enses-3-zoom-5
-prime/

On what are you basing your notion that these are re-wrapped photo
lenses?
There is a obvious match to the Arts in focal length and T/F values.

So? Does that mean they are just "re-wrapped"? The 18-35mm and
50-100mm Art lenses are for APS-C sensor cameras. The Cinema versions
are for full-frame as well as APS-C. That's not a re-wrapped version of
an existing lens, that's a different lens.

The release merely says that it's compatible with a sensor larger than
Super 35. What they mean by full-frame is not defined but the image
coverage has diagonal 28.4mm and that is a crop-format in the 35mm DSLR
world.

"FF Zoom Line is compatible with a full-frame image circle, and the
optical performance is ready for high-resolution shooting such as 6K *
8K. It provides a rare option for cinematographers since very few lenses
can cater to the requirements of the latest digital cinema cameras¹
image sensor, which is larger than Super 35, and expand the range of
compatible cameras."

Specs on the by you mentioned lenses:

http://go.skimresources.com/?id=5500...gg.org&xs=1&is
js=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dpreview.com%2Ffiles%2F p%2Farticles%2F96349704
91%2Fspecs_1.jpeg&xguid=&xuuid=877ac4c61f4e11e0304 5840f5419b9c0&xsessid=&
xcreo=0&xed=0&sref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cameraegg.org% 2Fsigma-announced-8-cin
ema-lenses-3-zoom-5-prime%2F&xtz=-120

or

http://tinyurl.com/zx2r82z
--
teleportation kills

On 9/8/2016 10:07 AM, android wrote:
In article , PAS wrote:

On 9/8/2016 9:17 AM, android wrote:
In article , Neil
wrote:

On 9/8/2016 12:17 AM, android wrote:
Rewrapping photolenses and market them as cine is apparently the
thing now. This seem to be the Sigma Art line in new cases:

http://www.cameraegg.org/sigma-annou...enses-3-zoom-5
-prime/

On what are you basing your notion that these are re-wrapped photo
lenses?
There is a obvious match to the Arts in focal length and T/F values.
So? Does that mean they are just "re-wrapped"? The 18-35mm and
50-100mm Art lenses are for APS-C sensor cameras. The Cinema versions
are for full-frame as well as APS-C. That's not a re-wrapped version of
an existing lens, that's a different lens.
The release merely says that it's compatible with a sensor larger than
Super 35. What they mean by full-frame is not defined but the image
coverage has diagonal 28.4mm and that is a crop-format in the 35mm DSLR
world.

"FF Zoom Line is compatible with a full-frame image circle, and the
optical performance is ready for high-resolution shooting such as 6K *
8K. It provides a rare option for cinematographers since very few lenses
can cater to the requirements of the latest digital cinema cameras¹
image sensor, which is larger than Super 35, and expand the range of
compatible cameras."

Specs on the by you mentioned lenses:

http://go.skimresources.com/?id=5500...gg.org&xs=1&is
js=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dpreview.com%2Ffiles%2F p%2Farticles%2F96349704
91%2Fspecs_1.jpeg&xguid=&xuuid=877ac4c61f4e11e0304 5840f5419b9c0&xsessid=&
xcreo=0&xed=0&sref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cameraegg.org% 2Fsigma-announced-8-cin
ema-lenses-3-zoom-5-prime%2F&xtz=-120

or

http://tinyurl.com/zx2r82z

BTW, even if these were simply re-wrapped versions of the non-cinema
lenses, that's not a bad things as both are excellent lenses.

In article , PAS wrote:

On 9/8/2016 10:07 AM, android wrote:
In article , PAS wrote:

On 9/8/2016 9:17 AM, android wrote:
In article , Neil
wrote:

On 9/8/2016 12:17 AM, android wrote:
Rewrapping photolenses and market them as cine is apparently the
thing now. This seem to be the Sigma Art line in new cases:

http://www.cameraegg.org/sigma-annou...enses-3-zoom-5
-prime/

On what are you basing your notion that these are re-wrapped photo
lenses?
There is a obvious match to the Arts in focal length and T/F values.
So? Does that mean they are just "re-wrapped"? The 18-35mm and
50-100mm Art lenses are for APS-C sensor cameras. The Cinema versions
are for full-frame as well as APS-C. That's not a re-wrapped version of
an existing lens, that's a different lens.
The release merely says that it's compatible with a sensor larger than
Super 35. What they mean by full-frame is not defined but the image
coverage has diagonal 28.4mm and that is a crop-format in the 35mm DSLR
world.

"FF Zoom Line is compatible with a full-frame image circle, and the
optical performance is ready for high-resolution shooting such as 6K -
8K. It provides a rare option for cinematographers since very few lenses
can cater to the requirements of the latest digital cinema cameras1
image sensor, which is larger than Super 35, and expand the range of
compatible cameras."

Specs on the by you mentioned lenses:

http://go.skimresources.com/?id=5500...gg.org&xs=1&is
js=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dpreview.com%2Ffiles%2F p%2Farticles%2F96349704
91%2Fspecs_1.jpeg&xguid=&xuuid=877ac4c61f4e11e0304 5840f5419b9c0&xsessid=&
xcreo=0&xed=0&sref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cameraegg.org% 2Fsigma-announced-8-cin
ema-lenses-3-zoom-5-prime%2F&xtz=-120

or

http://tinyurl.com/zx2r82z

BTW, even if these were simply re-wrapped versions of the non-cinema
lenses, that's not a bad things as both are excellent lenses.

I think that the customer has the right to know what they are so that
good folks aren't spending good money one cine lenses to use for photo
in the belief that they are inherently better because they are "cine".
--
teleportation kills

On 9/8/2016 11:34 AM, android wrote:
In article , PAS wrote:

On 9/8/2016 10:07 AM, android wrote:
In article , PAS wrote:

On 9/8/2016 9:17 AM, android wrote:
In article , Neil
wrote:

On 9/8/2016 12:17 AM, android wrote:
Rewrapping photolenses and market them as cine is apparently the
thing now. This seem to be the Sigma Art line in new cases:

http://www.cameraegg.org/sigma-annou...enses-3-zoom-5
-prime/

On what are you basing your notion that these are re-wrapped photo
lenses?
There is a obvious match to the Arts in focal length and T/F values.
So? Does that mean they are just "re-wrapped"? The 18-35mm and
50-100mm Art lenses are for APS-C sensor cameras. The Cinema versions
are for full-frame as well as APS-C. That's not a re-wrapped version of
an existing lens, that's a different lens.
The release merely says that it's compatible with a sensor larger than
Super 35. What they mean by full-frame is not defined but the image
coverage has diagonal 28.4mm and that is a crop-format in the 35mm DSLR
world.

"FF Zoom Line is compatible with a full-frame image circle, and the
optical performance is ready for high-resolution shooting such as 6K -
8K. It provides a rare option for cinematographers since very few lenses
can cater to the requirements of the latest digital cinema cameras1
image sensor, which is larger than Super 35, and expand the range of
compatible cameras."

Specs on the by you mentioned lenses:

http://go.skimresources.com/?id=5500...gg.org&xs=1&is
js=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dpreview.com%2Ffiles%2F p%2Farticles%2F96349704
91%2Fspecs_1.jpeg&xguid=&xuuid=877ac4c61f4e11e0304 5840f5419b9c0&xsessid=&
xcreo=0&xed=0&sref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cameraegg.org% 2Fsigma-announced-8-cin
ema-lenses-3-zoom-5-prime%2F&xtz=-120

or

http://tinyurl.com/zx2r82z
BTW, even if these were simply re-wrapped versions of the non-cinema
lenses, that's not a bad things as both are excellent lenses.
I think that the customer has the right to know what they are so that
good folks aren't spending good money one cine lenses to use for photo
in the belief that they are inherently better because they are "cine".

Are folks buying cine lenses just to use for photos? Who would think
that there is a benefit to pay more for a cine lens when it's only used
for stills?

In article , PAS wrote:

On 9/8/2016 11:34 AM, android wrote:
In article , PAS wrote:

On 9/8/2016 10:07 AM, android wrote:
In article , PAS wrote:

On 9/8/2016 9:17 AM, android wrote:
In article , Neil
wrote:

On 9/8/2016 12:17 AM, android wrote:
Rewrapping photolenses and market them as cine is apparently the
thing now. This seem to be the Sigma Art line in new cases:

http://www.cameraegg.org/sigma-annou...enses-3-zoom-5
-prime/

On what are you basing your notion that these are re-wrapped photo
lenses?
There is a obvious match to the Arts in focal length and T/F values.
So? Does that mean they are just "re-wrapped"? The 18-35mm and
50-100mm Art lenses are for APS-C sensor cameras. The Cinema versions
are for full-frame as well as APS-C. That's not a re-wrapped version of
an existing lens, that's a different lens.
The release merely says that it's compatible with a sensor larger than
Super 35. What they mean by full-frame is not defined but the image
coverage has diagonal 28.4mm and that is a crop-format in the 35mm DSLR
world.

"FF Zoom Line is compatible with a full-frame image circle, and the
optical performance is ready for high-resolution shooting such as 6K -
8K. It provides a rare option for cinematographers since very few lenses
can cater to the requirements of the latest digital cinema cameras1
image sensor, which is larger than Super 35, and expand the range of
compatible cameras."

Specs on the by you mentioned lenses:

http://go.skimresources.com/?id=5500...gg.org&xs=1&is
js=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dpreview.com%2Ffiles%2F p%2Farticles%2F96349704
91%2Fspecs_1.jpeg&xguid=&xuuid=877ac4c61f4e11e0304 5840f5419b9c0&xsessid=&
xcreo=0&xed=0&sref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cameraegg.org% 2Fsigma-announced-8-cin
ema-lenses-3-zoom-5-prime%2F&xtz=-120

or

http://tinyurl.com/zx2r82z
BTW, even if these were simply re-wrapped versions of the non-cinema
lenses, that's not a bad things as both are excellent lenses.
I think that the customer has the right to know what they are so that
good folks aren't spending good money one cine lenses to use for photo
in the belief that they are inherently better because they are "cine".

Are folks buying cine lenses just to use for photos? Who would think
that there is a benefit to pay more for a cine lens when it's only used
for stills?

Some people are picky and get that they think is the best. If there's a
hype created around cine lenses then some might buy for photo. I don't
se the problem with calling a spade a spade. There's no evident yet that
these Sigma "Cines" are better than "Arts" for stills. The users should
be aware of the similarities between the lines.

The good thing with this is that studio photogs now gets an authorized
set of T values for their Arts just like Samyang users got then Samy did
the same thing that Siggy appears to have done now.
--
teleportation kills

On 9/8/2016 11:34 AM, android wrote:
In article , PAS wrote:

On 9/8/2016 10:07 AM, android wrote:
In article , PAS wrote:

On 9/8/2016 9:17 AM, android wrote:
In article , Neil
wrote:

On 9/8/2016 12:17 AM, android wrote:
Rewrapping photolenses and market them as cine is apparently the
thing now. This seem to be the Sigma Art line in new cases:

http://www.cameraegg.org/sigma-annou...enses-3-zoom-5
-prime/

On what are you basing your notion that these are re-wrapped photo
lenses?
There is a obvious match to the Arts in focal length and T/F values.
So? Does that mean they are just "re-wrapped"? The 18-35mm and
50-100mm Art lenses are for APS-C sensor cameras. The Cinema versions
are for full-frame as well as APS-C. That's not a re-wrapped version of
an existing lens, that's a different lens.
The release merely says that it's compatible with a sensor larger than
Super 35. What they mean by full-frame is not defined but the image
coverage has diagonal 28.4mm and that is a crop-format in the 35mm DSLR
world.

"FF Zoom Line is compatible with a full-frame image circle, and the
optical performance is ready for high-resolution shooting such as 6K -
8K. It provides a rare option for cinematographers since very few lenses
can cater to the requirements of the latest digital cinema cameras1
image sensor, which is larger than Super 35, and expand the range of
compatible cameras."

Specs on the by you mentioned lenses:

http://go.skimresources.com/?id=5500...gg.org&xs=1&is
js=1&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dpreview.com%2Ffiles%2F p%2Farticles%2F96349704
91%2Fspecs_1.jpeg&xguid=&xuuid=877ac4c61f4e11e0304 5840f5419b9c0&xsessid=&
xcreo=0&xed=0&sref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cameraegg.org% 2Fsigma-announced-8-cin
ema-lenses-3-zoom-5-prime%2F&xtz=-120

or

http://tinyurl.com/zx2r82z

BTW, even if these were simply re-wrapped versions of the non-cinema
lenses, that's not a bad things as both are excellent lenses.

I think that the customer has the right to know what they are so that
good folks aren't spending good money one cine lenses to use for photo
in the belief that they are inherently better because they are "cine".


Yes, the customer has the right to know. And it is up to the customer to
research the issue.

--
PeterN