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Want point and shot with wide angle capability
David J Taylor wrote: Toby wrote: [] I have a Fuji F31fd which gives excellent results at ISO 800 and even holds up well at 1600. Of course it is only 6 Mpx, but I can easily live with that. What I cry for is RAW and more manual control. But I would still take that any day over a Panasonic that limited me to shooting in bright light to get an acceptable image. Either good light or longer exposure, to keep at ISO 100. For me, the 28-280mm range and the image stabilisation are important factors. Of course I still use my DSLR whenever possible, but it is just not possible to slip it in my pocket and keep it with me at all times. Toby Exactly, you choose the most suitable tool available to you to do the job in hand, and sometimes that's a pocket camera and not a DSLR. No single camera is perfect. You might want to look at Flickr.com: searching for LX1 will yield 22,000+ images of and by the Lumix LX1. I believe there is a later model, maybe two, but I have no experience with them. There may be other-brand equivalents by now, but I don't need to investigate them. I bought a different P&S every six months for a few years, until I found this one (Nearly three years ago! How time flies!). Aside from the lack of an optical viewfinder and some noise, it meets a lot of advanced needs: excellent optics, raw capability, adjustable everything, 8, 7, 6 MP, with instant switchable selection among 16:9, 4:3, 3:2 aspects, memory-limited movie mode, solid construction, (large) pocketable, useful but not extreme zoom, among others. See a Large image he http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3113/...79bf85db_b.jpg Same image, original size (1.09 MB): http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3113/...e0281591_o.jpg EXIF excerpts: Make - Panasonic Model - DMC-LX1 .... ExposureTime - 1/80 seconds FNumber - 4.00 ExposureProgram - Shutter priority ISOSpeedRatings - 80 .... ExposureBiasValue - -0.33 MaxApertureValue - F 2.83 MeteringMode - Multi-segment LightSource - Flash Flash - Flash fired, auto mode FocalLength - 14.40 mm FlashPixVersion - 0100 ColorSpace - sRGB ExifImageWidth - 2880 ExifImageHeight - 2160 .... FocalLengthIn35mmFilm - 78 mm SceneCaptureType - Standard GainControl - None Contrast - Normal Saturation - Low Sharpness - Soft LX1 Specs: http://reviews.cnet.com/digital-came...tag=mncol;psum Boring but demonstrative on-car camera videos: single GT takeoff road test http://youtube.com/watch?v=NxfEFETgvIA single GT takeoff dyno test http://youtube.com/watch?v=-AazkGcJ43s FRPP dual exhaust part 0ne (after the drags) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY9uRaR1JlE FRPP exhaust part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XhoYT0JVTg -- Frank ess |
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Want point and shot with wide angle capability
Frank wrote on Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:44:44 -0700:
David J Taylor wrote: Toby wrote: [] I have a Fuji F31fd which gives excellent results at ISO 800 and even holds up well at 1600. Of course it is only 6 Mpx, but I can easily live with that. What I cry for is RAW and more manual control. But I would still take that any day over a Panasonic that limited me to shooting in bright light to get an acceptable image. Either good light or longer exposure, to keep at ISO 100. For me, the 28-280mm range and the image stabilisation are important factors. Of course I still use my DSLR whenever possible, but it is just not possible to slip it in my pocket and keep it with me at all times. Toby Exactly, you choose the most suitable tool available to you to do the job in hand, and sometimes that's a pocket camera and not a DSLR. No single camera is perfect. You might want to look at Flickr.com: searching for LX1 will yield 22,000+ images of and by the Lumix LX1. I believe there is a later model, maybe two, but I have no experience with them. There may be other-brand equivalents by now, but I don't need to investigate them. I bought a different P&S every six months for a few years, until I found this one (Nearly three years ago! How time flies!). Aside from the lack of an optical viewfinder and some noise, it meets a lot of advanced needs: excellent optics, raw capability, adjustable everything, 8, 7, 6 MP, with instant switchable selection among 16:9, 4:3, 3:2 aspects, memory-limited movie mode, solid construction, (large) pocketable, useful but not extreme zoom, among others. If you use it outdoors on a bright sunny day, is the LCD usable? Certainly that on my Nikon is not and I appreciate the optical finder. -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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Want point and shot with wide angle capability
"James Silverton" wrote in message news:ymhsk.701$lf2.406@trnddc07... Frank wrote on Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:44:44 -0700: .... You might want to look at Flickr.com: searching for LX1 will yield 22,000+ images of and by the Lumix LX1. I believe there is a later model, maybe two, but I have no experience with them. There may be other-brand equivalents by now, but I don't need to investigate them. I bought a different P&S every six months for a few years, until I found this one (Nearly three years ago! How time flies!). Aside from the lack of an optical viewfinder and some noise, it meets a lot of advanced needs: excellent optics, raw capability, adjustable everything, 8, 7, 6 MP, with instant switchable selection among 16:9, 4:3, 3:2 aspects, memory-limited movie mode, solid construction, (large) pocketable, useful but not extreme zoom, among others. If you use it outdoors on a bright sunny day, is the LCD usable? Certainly that on my Nikon is not and I appreciate the optical finder. Bright days' images are barely visible on the LCD. I suggested once that our contemporary world will look different to people in the future, if what they hae to judge by is the photographic record: plenty of cut-off peripheral presences like you won't find pre-LCD. I do carry a 40-inch square of black cloth, in case careful framing in bright light becomes critical. Otherwise, 28mm allows for considerable crop room, thank goodness. -- Frank ess |
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Want point and shot with wide angle capability
Richard wrote:
Forget the other rubbish, this one might be ok and it has 24mm equivalent. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/spec...nic_dmclx3.asp That does look good. 24-60mm f/2-2.8 10MP ISO 3200 (grain of salt) lens stabilized 3:2 crop mode $500 black or silver -looks like the flash has to be popped up intentionally -I don't have a clear sense of the size compared to Nikon D40: 265 g (9.3 oz) 522 g (18.4 oz) "Marty Fremen" wrote in message ... "Bob Donahue" wrote: The zoom on my Olympus C-4000 just won't go wide enough for some of my shots. Are there any good point and shoot digitals out there that can zoom to "28mm equivalent". (I loved using a 28mm lens on my 35mm camera.) BTW, I can live without telephoto zoom. The Ricoh Caplio "R" series cameras all have a 28-200 equiv. zoom. If you want wider still then the GX100 and GX200 have 24-72mm equiv. zoom (plus optional 19mm adaptor) but are a bit bigger and have more advanced features (full manual control, optional electronic viewfinder etc etc). As someone else said the Panasonic Lumix series also have 28mm wide end, IME the noise reduction smearing reduces picture quality though. -- Paul Furman www.edgehill.net www.baynatives.com all google groups messages filtered due to spam |
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Paul wrote on Sun, 24 Aug 2008 13:30:23 -0700:
Richard wrote: Forget the other rubbish, this one might be ok and it has 24mm equivalent. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/spec...nic_dmclx3.asp That does look good. 24-60mm f/2-2.8 10MP ISO 3200 (grain of salt) lens stabilized 3:2 crop mode $500 black or silver -looks like the flash has to be popped up intentionally -I don't have a clear sense of the size compared to Nikon D40: 265 g (9.3 oz) 522 g (18.4 oz) "Marty Fremen" wrote in message ... "Bob Donahue" wrote: The zoom on my Olympus C-4000 just won't go wide enough for some of my shots. Are there any good point and shoot digitals out there that can zoom to "28mm equivalent". (I loved using a 28mm lens on my 35mm camera.) BTW, I can live without telephoto zoom. The Ricoh Caplio "R" series cameras all have a 28-200 equiv. zoom. If you want wider still then the GX100 and GX200 have 24-72mm equiv. zoom (plus optional 19mm adaptor) but are a bit bigger and have more advanced features (full manual control, optional electronic viewfinder etc etc). As someone else said the Panasonic Lumix series also have 28mm wide end, IME the noise reduction smearing reduces picture quality though. I've set before that I liked the Canon G9 in many ways tho' its widest zoom is an equivalent 35mm. However, there is a wide angle attachment available even if I've never tired it. -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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Want point and shot with wide angle capability
James wrote to Paul Furman on Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:44:14 GMT:
Richard wrote: Forget the other rubbish, this one might be ok and it has 24mm equivalent. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/spec...nic_dmclx3.asp That does look good. 24-60mm f/2-2.8 10MP ISO 3200 (grain of salt) lens stabilized 3:2 crop mode $500 black or silver -looks like the flash has to be popped up intentionally -I don't have a clear sense of the size compared to Nikon D40: 265 g (9.3 oz) 522 g (18.4 oz) "Marty Fremen" wrote in message ... "Bob Donahue" wrote: The zoom on my Olympus C-4000 just won't go wide enough for some of my shots. Are there any good point and shoot digitals out there that can zoom to "28mm equivalent". (I loved using a 28mm lens on my 35mm camera.) BTW, I can live without telephoto zoom. The Ricoh Caplio "R" series cameras all have a 28-200 equiv. zoom. If you want wider still then the GX100 and GX200 have 24-72mm equiv. zoom (plus optional 19mm adaptor) but are a bit bigger and have more advanced features (full manual control, optional electronic viewfinder etc etc). As someone else said the Panasonic Lumix series also have 28mm wide end, IME the noise reduction smearing reduces picture quality though. I've set before that I liked the Canon G9 in many ways tho' its widest zoom is an equivalent 35mm. However, there is a wide angle attachment available even if I've never tired it. How on earth did I manage the two spelling mistakes, "set" and "tired"? :-) Perhaps , the latter applies to me! -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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