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In article , Ken Tough
writes Chris Brown wrote: Or, to spell it out, your legal system has that premise because it's descended from a European legal system with the same premise. Though of course if you where to speak of "european" in the uk sense (i.e. continental) their civil law is fundamentally different than english common law. (But you're right). Ah, the traditional British view of the "continent". One of my favourite newspaper headlines from a century or so ago is "Heavy Fog in English Channel - Continent Cut Off". David -- David Littlewood |
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Owamanga wrote:
It is? The last mixer faucet I purchased needed one (optional, and as I was doing the plumbing, I omitted it). I presumed the reasoning was due to the design of this faucet. It was one that lets you pull the head off (it's attached to a hose) which means it is feasible you could leave it submerged in dirty dish-washing water which could be siphoned back into the system under certain rare conditions. One case is the above ground pool with a hose connected to the house water supply with the faucet open. If the water pressure falls considerably, the pool is higher than most of the rest of the water system and the water pushes back into the water system. I've seen warnings about this problem mode but I can't recall where, most likely a town brochure. Maybe they wanted people to put device on the faucet to prevent reverse flow. Cheers, Alan -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- slr-systems FAQ project: http://tinyurl.com/6m9aw -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. |
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On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:15:56 -0600, "Wayan"
wrote: "Big Bill" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:56:46 -0600, "Wayan" wrote: "Mxsmanic" wrote in message .. . Wayan writes: Of course there is. Define perverted photography, then. Both words are simple, short, and in the dictionary. Look them up as I take the obvious meaning. I can look up "timely" and atomic" in the dictionary. That won't give a definition for "timely atomic", will it? WHat's being asked for is a definition of "perverted photography." But in this case, it isn't different: perverted adj 1: (used of sexual behavior) showing or appealing to bizarre or deviant tastes; "kinky sex"; "perverted practices" [syn: kinky] 2: having an intended meaning altered or misrepresented; "many of the facts seemed twisted out of any semblance to reality"; "a perverted translation of the poem" [syn: distorted, misrepresented, twisted] 3: marked by immorality; deviating from what is considered right or proper or good; "depraved criminals"; "a perverted sense of loyalty"; "the reprobate conduct of a gambling aristocrat" [syn: depraved, immoral, perverse, reprobate] pho·tog·ra·phy n. The art or process of producing images of objects on photosensitive surfaces. The art, practice, or occupation of taking and printing photographs. A body of photographs. For you slow people. combine them to form "taking photographs that are depraved, perverse, immoral, or reprobate." -- Bill Funk Change "g" to "a" "Perverted photography" is not a word. It's a term. Terms very often meand somethiong different things that the combination of seperate words means. As an example using "perverted photography", does this refer to the photographer's actions, or the results of his actions? The problem is that"perverted photography" remains undefined. -- Bill Funk Change "g" to "a" |
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Mxsmanic wrote:
writes: The "public opinion" would heve to be pretty widespread, especially if the case was toosed out of court on its ass. It is, in the case of matters relating to sex. Sexual dysfunction is extremely widespread in many societies, including the very obvious example of the United States. Sexual dysfunction is not getting it when you want it, and that is widespread (pardon the reference) just about everywhere. Grin.... -- Ron Hunter |
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On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 02:25:03 -0500, Ron Hunter
wrote: A photograph merely represents patterns of light, darkness, and color. It has none of those moral/ethical properties. Those can only be attributed by someone who LOOKS at the picture. In short, those properties are internal to the observer. In that case, can "perverted photography" even exist? -- Bill Funk Change "g" to "a" |
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On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:15:56 -0600, "Wayan"
wrote: For you slow people. combine them to form "taking photographs that are depraved, perverse, immoral, or reprobate." According to whom? Someone who says, "I can't define it, but I know it when I see it"? How can a photo be depraved, perverse, immoral, or reprobate? A 'thing' can't be perverse or immoral; it can be reprobate, but only by people, not by itself. -- Bill Funk Change "g" to "a" |
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Big Bill wrote:
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 20:15:56 -0600, "Wayan" wrote: "Big Bill" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:56:46 -0600, "Wayan" wrote: "Mxsmanic" wrote in message m... Wayan writes: Of course there is. Define perverted photography, then. Both words are simple, short, and in the dictionary. Look them up as I take the obvious meaning. I can look up "timely" and atomic" in the dictionary. That won't give a definition for "timely atomic", will it? WHat's being asked for is a definition of "perverted photography." But in this case, it isn't different: perverted adj 1: (used of sexual behavior) showing or appealing to bizarre or deviant tastes; "kinky sex"; "perverted practices" [syn: kinky] 2: having an intended meaning altered or misrepresented; "many of the facts seemed twisted out of any semblance to reality"; "a perverted translation of the poem" [syn: distorted, misrepresented, twisted] 3: marked by immorality; deviating from what is considered right or proper or good; "depraved criminals"; "a perverted sense of loyalty"; "the reprobate conduct of a gambling aristocrat" [syn: depraved, immoral, perverse, reprobate] pho·tog·ra·phy n. The art or process of producing images of objects on photosensitive surfaces. The art, practice, or occupation of taking and printing photographs. A body of photographs. For you slow people. combine them to form "taking photographs that are depraved, perverse, immoral, or reprobate." -- Bill Funk Change "g" to "a" "Perverted photography" is not a word. It's a term. Terms very often meand somethiong different things that the combination of seperate words means. As an example using "perverted photography", does this refer to the photographer's actions, or the results of his actions? The problem is that"perverted photography" remains undefined. Yeah, but I will know if it if I see it. Sigh... -- Ron Hunter |
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On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 03:46:39 GMT, "Dwight Stewart"
wrote: "Big Bill" wrote: There is a right to take photos, even in a public park. (snip) As I said to "Owamanga," please stick to the subject. Nobody is talking about taking away anyone's supposed "right" to take photographs in general. Instead, we were talking about whether the specific example, the act of photographing a young girl's crotch in a public park, falls under the existing child pornography laws. My comments about photography have not addressed anything beyond that. Now, one may disagree with the child pornography laws, but one certainly does not have a "right" to violate them without consequencies. Taking photographs of a girl's (clothed) crotch is included in that right to take photos in a public park. Child pornography cases still (at least in the US) require some sort of evidence. A parent's complaint that here's a dirty old man over there taking pictures of her precious little angel on a swing doesn't count as evidence. So, how to eell is a violation is occurring? Cerrtainly, in the realm of mental exercise, there could be a violation, but in the realm of reality, how to determine this? This *is* sticking to the subject, because the subject is photographing children in a public park, and the *possible* violation of child pornography laws while doing so. -- Bill Funk Change "g" to "a" |
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On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 02:30:49 -0500, Ron Hunter
wrote: Dwight Stewart wrote: "Ron Hunter" wrote: Feel free to observe what you will of my comings and goings, and what I do in public. NO problem. But be prepared for terminal boredom. Given enough time, I'm almost willing to bet I could observe you breaking some law, somewhere. With the number of laws on the books today, it is almost impossible to go through a day without breaking at least one. Stewart Perhaps one you could give me a citation for, not anything else. And you would get very bored while looking. That's not the point. An observer could very easily observe you doing something that *appears* to be illegal, and start procedings against you that can easily result in your being arrested, charged, incarcerated, and forced to defend yourself in court. It's happened. Such innocent people have even been convicted. How can you so cavalierly say that you're not concerned, since you think you have nothing to hide? -- Bill Funk Change "g" to "a" |
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