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ANNOUNCEMENT: Foveon F19 Sensor
Orville Wright wrote:
Finally the coveted Foveon technolgy is being made available to compact camera market. I love my SD10, but it would be nice to have a small compact for when I don't want to carry my heavy camera bag around. This new sensor incorporates Foveon's breakthrough X3 technology to directly capture color in three layers, just like film. I really feel sorry for Sony investors. http://dcviews.com/press/Foveon-F19.htm Hope this helps, Orville How about they make their 3.1MP chip cheaper and market that to all the current 3MP makers out there at the moment. I can half see their point in multiplying their sensor size by 3, but then again, it doesn't really cut it. We've grown accustomed to measuring the sensor in output size. I guess something more along the lines of "3MP size, 10MP accuracy" would be more like it. I can't see anyone wanting to buy a 1MP camera, even if it does produce awfully sharp pictures. Perhaps they should be focusing on the 6MP or higher REAL size sensors instead. Cam |
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ANNOUNCEMENT: Foveon F19 Sensor
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"FuTAnT" wrote: Orville Wright wrote: Finally the coveted Foveon technolgy is being made available to compact camera market. I love my SD10, but it would be nice to have a small compact for when I don't want to carry my heavy camera bag around. This new sensor incorporates Foveon's breakthrough X3 technology to directly capture color in three layers, just like film. I really feel sorry for Sony investors. http://dcviews.com/press/Foveon-F19.htm Hope this helps, Orville How about they make their 3.1MP chip cheaper and market that to all the current 3MP makers out there at the moment. I can half see their point in multiplying their sensor size by 3, but then again, it doesn't really cut it. We've grown accustomed to measuring the sensor in output size. I guess something more along the lines of "3MP size, 10MP accuracy" would be more like it. No, it wouldn't. It is not 3x as accurate. The current Foveon sensor has 2268*1512 pixels (3.43MP). Each pixel measures three color bands, which overlap by much more than an ideal amount, and don't have a bell-curve response, so it is actually very difficult to separate some blues from greens from greys; hence yellow blotches in skin, and green or magenta blotches in blue sky. The Foveon is actually less accurate than Bayer DSLRs in rendering consistent, accurate color. What it *is* better at, on a pixel-for-pixel basis, is resolving fine detail of red vs blue, or red vs green, when the colors are highly saturated. This almost never appears in real life, though, and even if it did, you usually don't want to see it because it causes flashing. -- John P Sheehy |
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ANNOUNCEMENT: Foveon F19 Sensor
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wrote: I'm pretty open to Sigma. I have seen some of the test pictures from their SD-10. I was impressed with the quality of the sensor but not with the design and build quality of the cameras or lenses. Like crappy skin tones do you? |
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ANNOUNCEMENT: Foveon F19 Sensor
"Peter A. Stavrakoglou" wrote in message
.net... "Crownfield" wrote in message ... Orville Wright wrote: Finally the coveted Foveon technolgy is being made available to compact camera market. I love my SD10, but it would be nice to have a small compact for when I don't want to carry my heavy camera bag around. This new sensor incorporates Foveon's breakthrough X3 technology to directly capture color in three layers, just like film. I really feel sorry for Sony investors. http://dcviews.com/press/Foveon-F19.htm Hope this helps, almost 2 mp... an even smaller sensor then the obsolete foveon x3. even that is only 2500 x 1500. modern sensors are about 3 times the resolution. The SDx cameras output image resolutions that are on a par with any 6 MP Bayer sensor camera despite whatever resolution label you place on it. Numbers mean nothing, the output is what matters. Even if they did produce comparable images, there is not a real price advantage for the SD10 over the Canon 10D or Nikon D70, not to mention the Digital Rebel. Since the Sigma isn't as well built, and the lens line is limited (though it does include some esoteric lenses that the others don't offer, like a 200-400 and a 50-500) there really isn't a good reason to buy the camera unless you already have Sigma mount lenses. And those esoteric lenses are available in other manufacturers' mounts, too... -- Skip Middleton http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com |
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ANNOUNCEMENT: Foveon F19 Sensor
"Peter A. Stavrakoglou" wrote in message
news:KO2Cc.106336 The SDx cameras output image resolutions that are on a par with any 6 MP Bayer sensor camera despite whatever resolution label you place on it. They are only on a par with some 6 Mpixel SLRs under certain conditions. Low ISO, brightly lit scenes are the only times when and SD10 comes close to even an EOS-300D. And the SD9 is hopelessly bad. Numbers mean nothing, the output is what matters. This has been Foveon's/Sigma's biggest problem. |
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ANNOUNCEMENT: Foveon F19 Sensor
"Orville Wright" wrote in message ... Finally the coveted Foveon technolgy is being made available to compact camera market. I love my SD10, but it would be nice to have a small compact for when I don't want to carry my heavy camera bag around. This new sensor incorporates Foveon's breakthrough X3 technology to directly capture color in three layers, just like film. I really feel sorry for Sony investors. http://dcviews.com/press/Foveon-F19.htm Hope this helps, Orville Are all Sigma owners this annoying ? So now you solved the camera puzzle. Lets get back to a serious solution for that stupid lens mount. |
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ANNOUNCEMENT: Foveon F19 Sensor
Peter A. Stavrakoglou wrote:
"Crownfield" wrote in message ... Orville Wright wrote: Finally the coveted Foveon technolgy is being made available to compact camera market. I love my SD10, but it would be nice to have a small compact for when I don't want to carry my heavy camera bag around. This new sensor incorporates Foveon's breakthrough X3 technology to directly capture color in three layers, just like film. I really feel sorry for Sony investors. http://dcviews.com/press/Foveon-F19.htm Hope this helps, almost 2 mp... an even smaller sensor then the obsolete foveon x3. even that is only 2500 x 1500. modern sensors are about 3 times the resolution. The SDx cameras output image resolutions that are on a par with any 6 MP Bayer sensor camera despite whatever resolution label you place on it. Numbers mean nothing, the output is what matters. if you think 22500 x 1500 = 3000x2000 from the sensor... |
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ANNOUNCEMENT: Foveon F19 Sensor
"Zebedee" wrote in message . .. "Orville Wright" wrote in message ... Finally the coveted Foveon technolgy is being made available to compact camera market. I love my SD10, but it would be nice to have a small compact for when I don't want to carry my heavy camera bag around. This new sensor incorporates Foveon's breakthrough X3 technology to directly capture color in three layers, just like film. I really feel sorry for Sony investors. It is my understanding that Polaroid abandoned digital cameras a while back. Guess not. :-) |
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ANNOUNCEMENT: Foveon F19 Sensor
In rec.photo.equipment.35mm Randall Ainsworth wrote:
I'm pretty open to Sigma. I have seen some of the test pictures from their SD-10. I was impressed with the quality of the sensor but not with the design and build quality of the cameras or lenses. Like crappy skin tones do you? Definitely not. Take a look at dpreview.com's review of the SD-9 and 10. Skin tones look excellent to me. |
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