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Old August 17th 14, 06:56 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 06:07:40 -0700, Savageduck
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On 2014-08-13 12:37:01 +0000, android said:

What's the best make do if you cant afford proper fullframe glass? A
crop camera or a 1.4 teleconverter. The crop camera gives more speed but
a fullframe sensor should give you less noise to compensate for that.
I think that a lot people deep into telephoto are interested in that!


The 24MP DX sensor on the D7100 @ $1,099 and with 6fps, and reasonable
low light performance probably gives you the best value these days.


6fps only for jpg. Shooting raw you fill the buffer
after ~3shots and then you're stuck with how fast your
card is and it still is the crucial factor even with an
Extreme Pro 95MB/sec SD card.

Also feels like I went back in time to my D70 as most
of the controls are concerned.

I am not a great proponent of TCs. Add a Nikkor 70-300mm VRII to the
24MP D7100 and you will have plenty of crop room. Add the new Tamron
150-600mm VC and you have more reach than you could possibly need.


One has to evaluate specific TC/lens pairs.I find the
TC-14EII behind a first gen 200-400mm f/4 VR to be
fine. Depends what type of birds you want to shoot as
to how much is enough reach.

Hell! with my measly 12MP D300S + the 70-300mm I can still get shots like this:
https://db.tt/HrtYe2HG


Now try something with about 1/10th or smaller of that
wingspan in flight.
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Old August 17th 14, 08:26 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
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me wrote:
On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 06:07:40 -0700, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2014-08-13 12:37:01 +0000, android said:

What's the best make do if you cant afford proper fullframe glass? A
crop camera or a 1.4 teleconverter. The crop camera gives more speed but
a fullframe sensor should give you less noise to compensate for that.
I think that a lot people deep into telephoto are interested in that!


The 24MP DX sensor on the D7100 @ $1,099 and with 6fps, and reasonable
low light performance probably gives you the best value these days.


6fps only for jpg. Shooting raw you fill the buffer
after ~3shots and then you're stuck with how fast your
card is and it still is the crucial factor even with an
Extreme Pro 95MB/sec SD card.


The User Manual says otherwise.

For 12-bit NEF and JPEG, 6 frames per second. It slows
to only 5 fps with 14-bit NEF.

The memory buffer is specified for 6 lossless compressed
14 bit NEF files and 7 lossless compressed 12 bit NEF
files.

It's pretty hard to argue with that for a 24 MP DX
sensor at that price.

Also feels like I went back in time to my D70 as most
of the controls are concerned.


Yes, Nikon always has done a good job on controls.

I am not a great proponent of TCs. Add a Nikkor 70-300mm VRII to the
24MP D7100 and you will have plenty of crop room. Add the new Tamron
150-600mm VC and you have more reach than you could possibly need.


One has to evaluate specific TC/lens pairs.I find the
TC-14EII behind a first gen 200-400mm f/4 VR to be
fine. Depends what type of birds you want to shoot as
to how much is enough reach.

Hell! with my measly 12MP D300S + the 70-300mm I can still get shots like this:
https://db.tt/HrtYe2HG


Now try something with about 1/10th or smaller of that
wingspan in flight.


Well, of course that is a different problem. Still, a
D7100 will be about the best buy in a camera for that
too.

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