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Old June 8th 06, 04:04 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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"Floyd L. Davidson" wrote in message
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Fill flash??? :-)


Six Mazda bulbs might do the trick.

Added to that might be to shoot in raw mode to retain more data in
the shadows to allow software to lighten up the shadows without
blowing out the sky again.


CS - adjustments - shadow and highlight

Or use a Tiffen Ultra-Contrast filter #5.


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Old June 8th 06, 04:19 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 8 Jun 2006 07:27:53 -0700, "Pat"
wrote:

I wasn't there, but the OP says "It seems to me the sky was quite blue
when I took this photo". Therefore, it seems more likely that it just
washed out from overexposure.


Look at the picture. What is the color of the sky? It is white. The OP
is wrong. We have photographic evidence.

The house and trees are in bright sun, therefore there is indeed blue
sky, but the sky behind the house and trees is hazy or cloudy.

Reshoot when the sky is not so white.

KS
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Old June 8th 06, 04:27 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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King Sardon wrote:
On 8 Jun 2006 07:27:53 -0700, "Pat"
wrote:

I wasn't there, but the OP says "It seems to me the sky was quite blue
when I took this photo". Therefore, it seems more likely that it just
washed out from overexposure.


Look at the picture. What is the color of the sky? It is white. The OP
is wrong. We have photographic evidence.

The house and trees are in bright sun, therefore there is indeed blue
sky, but the sky behind the house and trees is hazy or cloudy.

Reshoot when the sky is not so white.

KS


King seems to be wrong. Washed sky is usually the result of open
aparture. According to EXIF it was shot at 7. Set the camera to
Aperture, set aperture to 16 or more, bracket from -2 to +2 and you'll
have at least one perfect picture in this lighting, RAW or JPG, filter
or no filter. If a PS camera can do it so can your XT.

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Old June 8th 06, 04:42 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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"Floyd L. Davidson" wrote in message
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Fill flash??? :-)


Six Mazda bulbs might do the trick.

Added to that might be to shoot in raw mode to retain more data in
the shadows to allow software to lighten up the shadows without
blowing out the sky again.


CS - adjustments - shadow and highlight

Or use a Tiffen Ultra-Contrast filter #5.


No. Floyd has it right.

--
John McWilliams
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Old June 8th 06, 05:14 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article . com, "Pat" wrote:
I wasn't there, but the OP says "It seems to me the sky was quite blue
when I took this photo". Therefore, it seems more likely that it just
washed out from overexposure.


If its not saturated it always possible to darken.
Its not possible in many parts of the country to view, but its
some sight to see the blue sky in the morning, such as in the desert.
The deep blue is something else.
I tried to capture it on film, which kinda works, but I never have
taken the shot with a digital camera. Not a great scan.................

http://www.zekfrivolous.com/goldstone/sub/29.jpg

Looks better with the room lights off.
Near horizon, the light will be a more washed out during the day.

greg


King Sardon wrote:
On 7 Jun 2006 08:06:03 -0700, "Pat"
wrote:

The way to do that is to invest in a polarizing filter.
That will allow you to darken a sky like that (plus keep interesting
details in it) without underexposing the rest of the image. It will
also cut out most glare that you encounter.


A polarizing filter will help little with a hazy sky, and the picture
shows a hazy sky.

KS


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Old June 8th 06, 05:26 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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"dwight" wrote in message
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"Celcius" wrote in message
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"Jack Mac" wrote in message
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You say your wife's point and shoot camera gets blue sky.
Why not just use her camera? Is the DSLR really worth all
the extra effort?
Jack Mac

Good question, Jack.

However, I bought a DSLR to use it and to learn photography. Otherwise,

I
would have bought a P&S. This is also why I come to this forum as well

as
alt.photography, rec.photo.digital.slr-systems, to learn and to seek

help
from more knowledgeable than I.

I find this pastime quite interesting. It also allowed me to work with
Photoshop (7.0, CS1 and now CS2). When I think that so many retired

people
hang around shopping centers for lack of something better to do....

Take care,

Marcel


You took the shot using an automatic exposure setting. You left it up to

the
camera to decide what was important in the picture.

I've never been pleased with the skies in my photos, using the Rebel XT in
any automatic modes. But, like you, I didn't buy the camera to point and
shoot.

My other camera has a live preview, so I was able to change shutter speed
and exposure on the fly before taking the shot. The XT doesn't give you

that
option, but "mistakes" don't cost you anything.

It's time to turn the dial from automatic to manual. Read the book and

then
set up some test shots. Play around with shutter speed and other settings

in
increments and see what happens. This is when you'll be glad that you

bought
a DSLR instead of a pocket camera.

You need to take control of this camera...

dwight
(strictly an amateur)

Dwight,
This makes sense.
I will.
Marcel


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Old June 8th 06, 07:31 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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King Sardon wrote: "The house and trees are in bright sun"

No they are not. Are we looking at the same picture?
http://celestart.com/images/publiques/15.jpg

The house is in TOTAL shadow. Look at the driveway. You have bright
sunlight and shadow where the tree is. Then you have a distinct shadow
line right next to the garage door, maybe a foot out from the door, and
the shadow line crosses the concrete slab that makes up the porch. The
only part of the house in bright sun is about a 1 foot strip across the
edge of the room that separates the brick above the garage door from
the vinyl as well as the primary roof.

Further, you can see through the crank-out window on the second floor.
If it was bright sun, that would almost definately have glare.

Notice the light next to the garage door. No shadow -- because it is
IN a shadow.

I don't know what time of day it was taken, but it appears to be
mid-day because the shadows aren't too long. Assuming the house is in
the northern hemisphere, then if the OP had waited a little bit, most
of the house would have been well lit, but they he would have had to
deal with shadows across the house.

Finally, look athte trees, esp. the more distant ones. Notice the
distortion of the leaves as the light wraps around them.

The house is definately backlit. The OP is shooting into the sun.
That's why the sky is burned out.

His best bet, other than some filters, would be to wait for a
semi-cloud day. Wait until the house is in shadow and there's some
interesting clouds in the sky. But still, filters would help
significantly.

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Old June 8th 06, 08:19 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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"Scott W" wrote in message
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The sky is simply blown out, a lower exposure and or shooting raw could
bring it back. You might then have a very dim forground but there are
software adjustments that can help greatly there.


In the picture at:

http://celestart.com/images/publiques/15.jpg

....the general consensus seems to be that the sky is blown out. When I do
that in "AUTO" mode the sky is 255,255,255 (pure white). This picture shows
the sky at a uniform 239,239,239. Why is that? What in-camera or
post-processing did this? I have never seen that before. To me "blown" is
255 all the way.

- David Harper

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Old June 8th 06, 10:16 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Celcius wrote:
Hi everyone!

Why is the sky washed out while my wife with a point and shoot gets blue
skys?
It seems to me the sky was quite blue when I took this photo:
http://celestart.com/images/publiques/15.jpg

Any ideas? Recommendations?

Thanks,

Marcel


While everyone is intent in pointing out the sky is overexposed, they
missed the point of the question, and I've thought the same thing
sometimes. I can point my old Canon Powershot P/S at a scene, and the
sky is blue and white shirts aren't overexposed, but my DSLR doesn't
seem to be able to capture the same range. Either the sky is blown
out, or the subject is dark.

Weird, huh.

oj

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Old June 9th 06, 12:25 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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"Pat" wrote in message
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King Sardon wrote: "The house and trees are in bright sun"

No they are not. Are we looking at the same picture?
http://celestart.com/images/publiques/15.jpg

The house is in TOTAL shadow. Look at the driveway. You have bright
sunlight and shadow where the tree is. Then you have a distinct shadow
line right next to the garage door, maybe a foot out from the door, and
the shadow line crosses the concrete slab that makes up the porch. The
only part of the house in bright sun is about a 1 foot strip across the
edge of the room that separates the brick above the garage door from
the vinyl as well as the primary roof.

Further, you can see through the crank-out window on the second floor.
If it was bright sun, that would almost definately have glare.

Notice the light next to the garage door. No shadow -- because it is
IN a shadow.

I don't know what time of day it was taken, but it appears to be
mid-day because the shadows aren't too long. Assuming the house is in
the northern hemisphere, then if the OP had waited a little bit, most
of the house would have been well lit, but they he would have had to
deal with shadows across the house.

Finally, look athte trees, esp. the more distant ones. Notice the
distortion of the leaves as the light wraps around them.

The house is definately backlit. The OP is shooting into the sun.
That's why the sky is burned out.

His best bet, other than some filters, would be to wait for a
semi-cloud day. Wait until the house is in shadow and there's some
interesting clouds in the sky. But still, filters would help
significantly.


Hi Pat!
Thanks for your answer.
Actually, I live in Ottawa, Canada. The front of the house is facing the
river (North). The right side of the house, when you look at the photo is
west, and of course the back side is south. The photo was taken at 14h38
(2:38PM). The sun must have been overhead, slightly right if you look at the
shadow of the tree. I thought the sun was immaterial since I was shooting in
the direction of the house and wanted mostly to show the house and trees. I
never thought the sky would look that way. I took some photos in Cuba in the
sun by the swimming pool and it never turned out that way:
http://celestart.com/images/publiques/pool.jpg
Marcel


 




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