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(Relatively) affordable, compact medium format 100MP camera
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Molon wrote: scanned MF film (4000dpi 6x6 = 144000mp; 5000dpi 6x6 = 180000mp). Doesn't 4000 dpi of a 6cm x 6cm film give you 9449 x 9449 = 89 MP (6/2,54 * 4000)? That's far less than 144000 MP. 6 * 4000 = 24000 * 6 = 144000. Isn't MF film 6 cm x 6 cm = 2.36 inch x 2.36 inch? yep, although medium format film is usually referred to as 2 1/4". film luddites are used to inaccuracies. 2.36 inch x 4000 dots/inch = 9448 pixel per side yep. |
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(Relatively) affordable, compact medium format 100MP camera
On 1/28/2021 6:55 PM, Alfred Molon wrote:
In article , Neil says... On 1/28/2021 12:57 PM, Alfred Molon wrote: In article , says... scanned MF film (4000dpi 6x6 = 144000mp; 5000dpi 6x6 = 180000mp). Doesn't 4000 dpi of a 6cm x 6cm film give you 9449 x 9449 = 89 MP (6/2,54 * 4000)? That's far less than 144000 MP. 6 * 4000 = 24000 * 6 = 144000. Isn't MF film 6 cm x 6 cm = 2.36 inch x 2.36 inch? 2.36 inch x 4000 dots/inch = 9448 pixel per side You are right. I didn't convert from cm to inches prior to dpi. Brain fog...thanks for pointing it out. -- best regards, Neil |
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(Relatively) affordable, compact medium format 100MP camera
On 28/01/2021 23:55, Alfred Molon wrote:
In article , Neil says... On 1/28/2021 12:57 PM, Alfred Molon wrote: In article , says... scanned MF film (4000dpi 6x6 = 144000mp; 5000dpi 6x6 = 180000mp). Doesn't 4000 dpi of a 6cm x 6cm film give you 9449 x 9449 = 89 MP (6/2,54 * 4000)? That's far less than 144000 MP. 6 * 4000 = 24000 * 6 = 144000. Isn't MF film 6 cm x 6 cm = 2.36 inch x 2.36 inch? 2.36 inch x 4000 dots/inch = 9448 pixel per side Zenza Bronica and Mamiya might wish to suggest that medium format also includes 6cm x 4.5cm. |
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(Relatively) affordable, compact medium format 100MP camera
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wrote: Zenza Bronica and Mamiya might wish to suggest that medium format also includes 6cm x 4.5cm. particularly pentax, where their 645d had the same size sensor as this new camera. |
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(Relatively) affordable, compact medium format 100MP camera
In article , Reader says...
On 28/01/2021 23:55, Alfred Molon wrote: In article , Neil says... On 1/28/2021 12:57 PM, Alfred Molon wrote: In article , says... scanned MF film (4000dpi 6x6 = 144000mp; 5000dpi 6x6 = 180000mp). Doesn't 4000 dpi of a 6cm x 6cm film give you 9449 x 9449 = 89 MP (6/2,54 * 4000)? That's far less than 144000 MP. 6 * 4000 = 24000 * 6 = 144000. Isn't MF film 6 cm x 6 cm = 2.36 inch x 2.36 inch? 2.36 inch x 4000 dots/inch = 9448 pixel per side Zenza Bronica and Mamiya might wish to suggest that medium format also includes 6cm x 4.5cm. BTW, I'm wondering if the advanced 45+ MP cameras of these days give you (or even exceed) the image quality of film MF cameras of the past. Is that the case? -- Alfred Molon Olympus 4/3 and micro 4/3 cameras forum at https://groups.io/g/myolympus https://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site |
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In article , Alfred
Molon wrote: BTW, I'm wondering if the advanced 45+ MP cameras of these days give you (or even exceed) the image quality of film MF cameras of the past. Is that the case? yes, and has been for quite some time. |
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On 1/29/2021 12:28 PM, Alfred Molon wrote:
In article , Reader says... On 28/01/2021 23:55, Alfred Molon wrote: In article , Neil says... On 1/28/2021 12:57 PM, Alfred Molon wrote: In article , says... scanned MF film (4000dpi 6x6 = 144000mp; 5000dpi 6x6 = 180000mp). Doesn't 4000 dpi of a 6cm x 6cm film give you 9449 x 9449 = 89 MP (6/2,54 * 4000)? That's far less than 144000 MP. 6 * 4000 = 24000 * 6 = 144000. Isn't MF film 6 cm x 6 cm = 2.36 inch x 2.36 inch? 2.36 inch x 4000 dots/inch = 9448 pixel per side Zenza Bronica and Mamiya might wish to suggest that medium format also includes 6cm x 4.5cm. BTW, I'm wondering if the advanced 45+ MP cameras of these days give you (or even exceed) the image quality of film MF cameras of the past. Is that the case? They're different media, with different qualities. Film was never intended to be scanned for output, and optical enlargements are far better (within a range) than smaller prints. So, the smaller the print, the less information the image contains. Other qualities are just differences between the media, and comparisons are as meaningless as comparisons between oil painting and sculpture, as far as I'm concerned. Personal preferences are OK. -- best regards, Neil |
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(Relatively) affordable, compact medium format 100MP camera
In article , Neil
wrote: BTW, I'm wondering if the advanced 45+ MP cameras of these days give you (or even exceed) the image quality of film MF cameras of the past. Is that the case? They're different media, obviously, however, that's irrelevant. with different qualities. where 'different' is that one is much better than the other. Film was never intended to be scanned for output, irrelevant. the fact is that scanning film can capture all of the information contained in it. and optical enlargements are far better (within a range) than smaller prints. optical enlargements can be any size and not necessarily better than scanned film that is digitally printed. in fact, it's likely worse. So, the smaller the print, the less information the image contains. not necessarily. Other qualities are just differences between the media, and comparisons are as meaningless as comparisons between oil painting and sculpture, as far as I'm concerned. Personal preferences are OK. preferences are ok. invalid comparisons and factually false data is not. |
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(Relatively) affordable, compact medium format 100MP camera
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.com, Savageduck says... On Jan 28, 2021, Alfred Molon wrote (in s.net): In article .com, says... The question should be; ?Is anybody in this room contemplating buying one?? I for one cannot justify spending $6K on this body, and then another considerable expense for GX glass. On the other hand, if money didn't matter and you don't need long lenses, it would be cool to travel with this camera to some interesting places and come back with nice pictures of sceneries and architecture with insane resolution levels. For now I will stick with my X-T3, and APS-C. Here is somebody using this camera for landscapes: https://petapixel.com/2021/01/30/fuj...s-i-found-the- landscape-photography-camera-of-my-dreams/ -- Alfred Molon Olympus 4/3 and micro 4/3 cameras forum at https://groups.io/g/myolympus https://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site |
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