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Why does Nikon keep making FF lenses?
They could cut their costs substantially by going with sub-FF support
lenses, even ones designed for digital, Olympus's overpriced pro lenses notwithstanding. Looking that this, I'd say it's a fair bet Nikon is going FF at some point, maybe soon. DX lenses: DX Nikkor Lenses for DX Format Digital SLRs 10.5mm f/2.8G ED AF DX Fisheye-Nikkor 12-24mm f/4G ED-IF AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor - REBATE! 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G ED II AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G ED-IF AF-S DX Zoom Nikkor 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6G ED-IF AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor - NEW! 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 G ED-IF AF-S VR DX Zoom-Nikkor 17-55mm f/2.8G ED-IF AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor - REBATE! 55-200mm f/4-5.6G ED AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor Film Lenses: Vibration Reduction (VR) Lenses 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G ED-IF AF-S VR Zoom-Nikkor 200mm f/2G ED-IF AF-S VR Nikkor 300mm f/2.8G ED-IF AF-S VR Nikkor - REBATE! 24-120mm f/3.5-5.6G ED-IF AF-S VR Zoom-Nikkor - REBATE! 70-200mm f/2.8G ED-IF AF-S VR Zoom-Nikkor - REBATE! 80-400mm f/4.5-5.6D ED AF VR Zoom-Nikkor 200-400mm f/4G ED-IF AF-S VR Zoom-Nikkor 24-85mm f/2.8-4D IF AF Zoom-Nikkor 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5G ED-IF AF-S Zoom-Nikkor 28-70mm f/2.8D ED-IF AF-S Zoom-Nikkor - REBATE! 28-80mm f/3.3-5.6G AF Zoom-Nikkor 28-105mm f/3.5-4.5D AF Zoom-Nikkor 70-300mm f/4.5-5.6G ED-IF AF-S VR Zoom-Nikkor - NEW! 70-300mm f/4-5.6G AF Zoom-Nikkor 80-200mm f/2.8D ED AF Zoom-Nikkor - REBATE! |
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Why does Nikon keep making FF lenses?
In article . com,
"RichA" wrote: They could cut their costs substantially by going with sub-FF support lenses, even ones designed for digital, Olympus's overpriced pro lenses notwithstanding. Looking that this, I'd say it's a fair bet Nikon is going FF at some point, maybe soon. I say March -- "As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." - H. L. Mencken, in the Baltimore Sun, July 26, 1920. Reality-Is finding that perfect picture and never looking back. www.gregblankphoto.com |
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Why does Nikon keep making FF lenses?
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 20:59:37 -0800, RichA wrote
(in article . com): They could cut their costs substantially by going with sub-FF support lenses, even ones designed for digital, Olympus's overpriced pro lenses notwithstanding. Looking that this, I'd say it's a fair bet Nikon is going FF at some point, maybe soon. Old news. Even Thom Hogan says the D3h will be released this year, possibly at PMA, summer at the latest. As he says, there are too many prototypes floating around -- nearly everybody who is anybody has seen one. |
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Why does Nikon keep making FF lenses?
On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 22:00:44 -0800, C J Campbell
wrote: On Fri, 12 Jan 2007 20:59:37 -0800, RichA wrote (in article . com): They could cut their costs substantially by going with sub-FF support lenses, even ones designed for digital, Olympus's overpriced pro lenses notwithstanding. Looking that this, I'd say it's a fair bet Nikon is going FF at some point, maybe soon. Old news. Even Thom Hogan says the D3h will be released this year, possibly at PMA, summer at the latest. As he says, there are too many prototypes floating around -- nearly everybody who is anybody has seen one. Well, * I * haven't seen one, not even a (Photoshopped) image on a web site. But Thom is curiously very vague about the specifications, with his "teaser" comment about a "surprise." What in heck does he mean with that comment? Father Kodak |
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Why does Nikon keep making FF lenses?
They could cut their costs substantially by going with sub-FF support lenses, even ones designed for digital, Olympus's overpriced pro lenses notwithstanding. Looking that this, I'd say it's a fair bet Nikon is going FF at some point, maybe soon. Nikon still has a massive userbase of people using real cameras and buying lenses for those. Anyway, anything is full frame for a given definition of "frame". DX is "full frame", so is 645, so is 35mm, and so is 6x6. And I doubt Nikon will ever produce a 6x6 DSLR, which (being the largest of those formats) is the only true "full" frame among them, everything else is smaller and therefore a subset of 6x6. Old news. Even Thom Hogan says the D3h will be released this year, possibly at PMA, summer at the latest. As he says, there are too many prototypes floating around -- nearly everybody who is anybody has seen one. Well, * I * haven't seen one, not even a (Photoshopped) image on a web site. But Thom is curiously very vague about the specifications, with his "teaser" comment about a "surprise." What in heck does he mean with that comment? it means he doesn't know and is just speculating but wants to sound important by making you think he's got one already but isn't allowed to talk (if he really had one he'd not even be allowed to say that you're in for a surprise). |
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Why does Nikon keep making FF lenses?
On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 10:02:48 +0100, Jeroen Wenting wrote:
They could cut their costs substantially by going with sub-FF support lenses, even ones designed for digital, Olympus's overpriced pro lenses notwithstanding. Looking that this, I'd say it's a fair bet Nikon is going FF at some point, maybe soon. Nikon still has a massive userbase of people using real cameras I see. So digital cameras aren't "real"? and buying lenses for those. Anyway, anything is full frame for a given definition of "frame". DX is "full frame", so is 645, so is 35mm, and so is 6x6. And I doubt Nikon will ever produce a 6x6 DSLR, which (being the largest of those formats) is the only true "full" frame among them, everything else is smaller and therefore a subset of 6x6. The accepted definition of "full frame" is 35mm equivalent. By pretending that you don't know this or trying to redefine the term you're exposing yourself as ignorant, loony, or trolling. Old news. Even Thom Hogan says the D3h will be released this year, possibly at PMA, summer at the latest. As he says, there are too many prototypes floating around -- nearly everybody who is anybody has seen one. Well, * I * haven't seen one, not even a (Photoshopped) image on a web site. But Thom is curiously very vague about the specifications, with his "teaser" comment about a "surprise." What in heck does he mean with that comment? it means he doesn't know and is just speculating but wants to sound important by making you think he's got one already but isn't allowed to talk (if he really had one he'd not even be allowed to say that you're in for a surprise). -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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Why does Nikon keep making FF lenses?
The accepted definition of "full frame" is 35mm equivalent. Only if you work exclusively / mostly with 35mm.... Full frame has other meanings too. I have a film / TV / photo background and the term 'full frame' has many meanings depending on context. /pedantry Guy |
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Why does Nikon keep making FF lenses?
Ο "J. Clarke" *γραψε στο μήνυμα
... ................................................. ...................................... The accepted definition of "full frame" is 35mm equivalent. By pretending that you don't know this or trying to redefine the term you're exposing yourself as ignorant, loony, or trolling. ................................................. ......................................... --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) I shudder to think what the music industry would be like if they clung to the notion that good CDs would have to be full frame, ie vinyl record size. Why we compare melons with goldfish in the photo world is beyond me, saying that a good goldfish should be melon sized and vice versa. The mediums are so incredibly different that only end results are of importance. So if, in a couple of years time, a sensor comes along thats 2x2 cm and WAY better than film in picture quality we'll spit on it?? The "full frame" crap is just for the huge 35mm lens base out there, and it will take some time for the notion to simply wither and go away. |
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Why does Nikon keep making FF lenses?
On 13 Jan 2007 14:00:14 GMT, "J. Clarke"
wrote: On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 10:02:48 +0100, Jeroen Wenting wrote: Anyway, anything is full frame for a given definition of "frame". DX is "full frame", so is 645, so is 35mm, and so is 6x6. And I doubt Nikon will ever produce a 6x6 DSLR, which (being the largest of those formats) is the only true "full" frame among them, everything else is smaller and therefore a subset of 6x6. The accepted definition of "full frame" is 35mm equivalent. By pretending that you don't know this or trying to redefine the term you're exposing yourself as ignorant, loony, or trolling. 35mm is a cropped format compared to 6x6. It's all relative to what you are used to. If medium fomat is your reference, then 35mm is cropped, and the 35mm crop factor is 1.5. Instead of shooting portraits with your 150mm lens, you would use 150/1.5 = about 100mm. Focal lengths relative to the 35mm format are useful for many of us because the format is so common, and we probably have some of the lenses designed for that format around. But this format is now fading and will be much less common in a few years. So we should gradually stop comparing everything to 35mm. The term "cropped format" is a bit depreciating, and suggests you are losing something. You are not. The current Nikon and Canon small frame formats are respectable and here to stay. A normal focal length for the new formats is 30mm. Remember that number: 30mm. No need to multiply anything. KS |
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Why does Nikon keep making FF lenses?
"J. Clarke" wrote in message ... The accepted definition of "full frame" is 35mm equivalent. By pretending that you don't know this or trying to redefine the term you're exposing yourself as ignorant, loony, or trolling. I thought it was to distinguish between full frame and half frame 35mm myself. Of course 120 was full frame at 6x7 or 6x6 too. Minox did a full frame 16mm at one time IIRC. Are panoramic 35mm cameras more than full frame or full frame? I would like less of the references to 35mm myself. I used it for many years but I am quite capable of working a 4/3 camera without having to refer to 35mm equivalents. |
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