Roll paper? Is it a crazy idea?

Do any non-pros buy roll paper? I'm basically thinking of it for
making square prints and other harder to find sizes. Other then the space a
roll takes up in the freezer what are the down sides?

Thanks
Nick

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Nick Zentena wrote:

Do any non-pros buy roll paper? I'm basically thinking of it for
making square prints and other harder to find sizes. Other then the space a
roll takes up in the freezer what are the down sides?

Thanks
Nick

Its bought by non pros, consider how to cut it so you can process it, and
how you'll secure it under the enlarger or on the wall-projected. Its easy
to get crimped or kinks in the surface,....scratches, etc. BW in Trays or color?
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:11:22 -0500, Nick Zentena
wrote:

Do any non-pros buy roll paper? I'm basically thinking of it for
making square prints and other harder to find sizes. Other then the space a
roll takes up in the freezer what are the down sides?

Thanks
Nick
Well for one the paper doesn't lay flat. Then theres the problem of
handling the roll to get the paper cut.
I've been looking for a roll magazine for hand cutting paper off of
rolls and found one on Ebay but the price went to a ridiculous level.
I think one could be built of wood with a cutting bar inside the lid
so as much as needed could be drawn out and cut. Another reason for
roll paper is to print panoramic format prints, say 8x20 or 10x30,
etc. The potential for creative cropping is enormous.

Gregory W Blank wrote:


Its bought by non pros, consider how to cut it so you can process it, and
how you'll secure it under the enlarger or on the wall-projected. Its easy
to get crimped or kinks in the surface,....scratches, etc. BW in Trays or color?


I was thinking colour. Right now the fridge is full of B&W. So colour in
drums. What I had thought was I would cut up a bunch put it in the paper
safe then stick the roll back into the freezer. Is it really curly?

Thanks
Nick

Gary Beasley wrote:

Well for one the paper doesn't lay flat. Then theres the problem of
handling the roll to get the paper cut.
I've been looking for a roll magazine for hand cutting paper off of
rolls and found one on Ebay but the price went to a ridiculous level.
I think one could be built of wood with a cutting bar inside the lid
so as much as needed could be drawn out and cut. Another reason for
roll paper is to print panoramic format prints, say 8x20 or 10x30,
etc. The potential for creative cropping is enormous.


I was thinking of just using a paper cutter. It would seem simple enough
to put the roll on some sort of holder to make it easier to roll out. Then
once the paper safe is full enough toss the roll back into the freezer. How
badly does it curl? Too much for an easel to hold?

Thanks
Nick

In article ,
Nick Zentena wrote:

I was thinking colour. Right now the fridge is full of B&W. So colour in
drums. What I had thought was I would cut up a bunch put it in the paper
safe then stick the roll back into the freezer. Is it really curly?
Thanks
Nick

RC Papers should be less curly and easier to deal with than FB and to get to lay flat...
a good vacuum easel should get them to lay completely flat. A vacuum easel
,.....which you could build yourself.
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:11:22 -0500, Nick Zentena
wrote:

Do any non-pros buy roll paper? I'm basically thinking of it for
making square prints and other harder to find sizes. Other then the space
a
roll takes up in the freezer what are the down sides?

Thanks
Nick
Well for one the paper doesn't lay flat. Then theres the problem of
handling the roll to get the paper cut.
I've been looking for a roll magazine for hand cutting paper off of
rolls and found one on Ebay but the price went to a ridiculous level.
I think one could be built of wood with a cutting bar inside the lid
so as much as needed could be drawn out and cut. Another reason for
roll paper is to print panoramic format prints, say 8x20 or 10x30,
etc. The potential for creative cropping is enormous.

In the digital printing world roll paper is more common and there exists a
device to "de-curl" the paper. I've looked at it and it appears to be
basically a length of PVC pipe with a small slot cut into it and caps on the
ends. A long sheet of canvas the width of the length of pipe not including
the caps has a dowel sewn in one end. One of the caps is removed from the
pipe and the dowel goes inside while the canvas comes out of the slot.

Lay your paper down on the canvas concave side down and roll the pipe. The
paper is de-curled. Those who have tried it say it works.

Sherman
http://www.dunnamphoto.com

"Nick Zentena" wrote in message
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Do any non-pros buy roll paper? I'm basically thinking of it for
making square prints and other harder to find sizes. Other then the space
a
roll takes up in the freezer what are the down sides?

Thanks
Nick

I buy roll paper for use in my mini-lab, but that's not your question.

As for curl, by the time it exits the processor, the curl is no more than
sheet paper. But it has been fed thru the processor bent backwards (against
the curl). Again, that's not your question.

The diameter of a 577" roll is about 10". It also has a bit of weight to it,
especially the 8" width. That may be a problem for you; a full roll of 8"
wide paper would be about the same weight as seven 100-sheet boxes of 8x10.

Somewhere, sometime ago, I saw a roll paper easel for sale on one of the
marketplace groups. I've never seen one in the flesh, but I assume it's an
easel with a paper cassette/magazine at one side. Perhaps a search of
manufacturers of easels (ie: Saunders, Bogen) or processors (ie: Jobo,
Noritsu) might come up with one.

I think if you check prices and do the math, you may find it there's a price
savings over sheet paper. The last paper I bought, 5" x 577' of Kodak Supra
Endura E cost me $100.97/roll. (5" width and narrower is sold in two roll
packs) Assuming no waste, that would be 1384 5"x5" prints at $0.0729 each.
(Please let me know how you do the "no waste" part!)

Ken Hart

I use rolls of paper. In my case it is Fuji Crystal Archive Type C and
Fujiflex. Both 20" wide. I have a roll paper dispenser and it makes it quite
easy to cut the paper in exact length. Without a dispenser, it would be very
inconvenient. The roll is rather heavy - about 25 pounds. Towards the end of a
roll, the paper does have curl. But, this is not much of a problem. I use 3M's
#667 double faced adhesive tape to hold the paper flat on my easel, a 20"x39"
drop table with steel plate on top. I have tried other double faced tapes but
they have too much tack and not very satisfactory.

Best part of using roll instead of cut sheets is, as you mentioned, the ability
to cut paper in the exact size needed with minimal waste. It is also a little
less expensive than cut sheets.

I hope this helps.

Manny Bhuta
Randolph, NJ USA

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Nick Zentena" wrote in message
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Do any non-pros buy roll paper? I'm basically thinking of it for
making square prints and other harder to find sizes. Other then the space a
roll takes up in the freezer what are the down sides?

Thanks
Nick

Hallo Gregory W Blank, Du schriebst am 27.01.2004:

A vacuum easel ,.....which you could build yourself.

How? Do you have a description? Would be interesting...

Regards,

Thom@s

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