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film storage - fridge or freezer?
I usually store in the fridge, but read about those that put film in
the freezer. OK for it? More suited to long term storage? I've not had any problem with cold storage in the fridge part in the past, just wondering. Locally film (well, good film) is harder to find. I just mail ordered some Velvia 100F, and being more rolls than I will shoot right away, wondered about the cold storage options... |
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film storage - fridge or freezer?
"Beefy LaSleep" wrote in message ... I usually store in the fridge, but read about those that put film in the freezer. OK for it? More suited to long term storage? I've not had any problem with cold storage in the fridge part in the past, just wondering. Locally film (well, good film) is harder to find. I just mail ordered some Velvia 100F, and being more rolls than I will shoot right away, wondered about the cold storage options... I believe freezing it will keep it the longest (indefinitely); but the fridge is also fine. The only concern I see is that to thaw it well enough before use to keep it from becoming brittle and breaking. I used to keep it in baggies to prevent condensation too. tim |
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film storage - fridge or freezer?
Beefy LaSleep wrote:
I usually store in the fridge, but read about those that put film in the freezer. OK for it? More suited to long term storage? I've not had any problem with cold storage in the fridge part in the past, just wondering. Locally film (well, good film) is harder to find. I just mail ordered some Velvia 100F, and being more rolls than I will shoot right away, wondered about the cold storage options... Colder the better - I keep all of my film at -18C. I've shot Velvia 100/100F that was more than a year over date and the results were subjectively as good as 'fresh' film. -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. -- usenet posts from gmail.com and googlemail.com are filtered out. |
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film storage - fridge or freezer?
"Beefy LaSleep" wrote in message ... I usually store in the fridge, but read about those that put film in the freezer. OK for it? More suited to long term storage? I've not had any problem with cold storage in the fridge part in the past, just wondering. Locally film (well, good film) is harder to find. I just mail ordered some Velvia 100F, and being more rolls than I will shoot right away, wondered about the cold storage options... I keep my slide film in the freezer, but I have been told by others on this forum that it will deteriorate from the action of cosmic radiation even if frozen, so I would hesitate to say it will last forever.....I suppose I could store it inside a lead box inside my freezer, but I am in my 70's, so such a thing would probably be overkill....... |
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film storage - fridge or freezer?
tconway wrote:
"Beefy LaSleep" wrote in message ... I usually store in the fridge, but read about those that put film in the freezer. OK for it? More suited to long term storage? I've not had any problem with cold storage in the fridge part in the past, just wondering. Locally film (well, good film) is harder to find. I just mail ordered some Velvia 100F, and being more rolls than I will shoot right away, wondered about the cold storage options... I believe freezing it will keep it the longest (indefinitely); but the Film is already 'frozen' even at room temperature. fridge is also fine. The only concern I see is that to thaw it well enough before use to keep it from becoming brittle and breaking. Film does not "thaw" (see above). It should be warmed to ambient before unwrapping - to prevent condensation. I shoot film from time to time to -20C and below. It is flexible enough then - so brittle and breaking is not an issue. (What can be an issue is static discharge as the film unwinds in the camera and the static exposing the film). I used to keep it in baggies to prevent condensation too. Just leave it in the original packaging for a couple hours - no need for baggies unless it has been opened. -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. -- usenet posts from gmail.com and googlemail.com are filtered out. |
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film storage - fridge or freezer?
On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 07:33:46 -0700, Beefy LaSleep wrote:
I usually store in the fridge, but read about those that put film in the freezer. OK for it? More suited to long term storage? I've not had any problem with cold storage in the fridge part in the past, just wondering. Locally film (well, good film) is harder to find. I just mail ordered some Velvia 100F, and being more rolls than I will shoot right away, wondered about the cold storage options... In general, leave film in its original sealed packaging before refrigerating or freezing. Allow film to warm to "room" temperature before opening and using. Refrigerated color film is usually good for 3 years past its expiration date; b&w quite a bit longer. I've used b&w that was 5 years past with no evidence of degradation. Frozen film will keep "indefinitely." Stef |
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film storage - fridge or freezer?
Stefan Patric wrote:
On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 07:33:46 -0700, Beefy LaSleep wrote: I usually store in the fridge, but read about those that put film in the freezer. OK for it? More suited to long term storage? I've not had any problem with cold storage in the fridge part in the past, just wondering. Locally film (well, good film) is harder to find. I just mail ordered some Velvia 100F, and being more rolls than I will shoot right away, wondered about the cold storage options... In general, leave film in its original sealed packaging before refrigerating or freezing. Allow film to warm to "room" temperature before opening and using. Refrigerated color film is usually good for 3 years past its expiration date; b&w quite a bit longer. I've used b&w that was 5 years past with no evidence of degradation. Frozen film will keep "indefinitely." Film is frozen at room temperature - even at 50C it is still frozen. And no, it will not keep "indefinitely" but the lifetime will be extended the colder the storage. On the other hand, with extended storage time more gamma rays get to the film inexorably fogging it regardless of temperature. -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. -- usenet posts from gmail.com and googlemail.com are filtered out. |
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film storage - fridge or freezer?
Any film will be exposed by X-rays. Fortunately, naturally
occuring Xrays are minimal. And most of that is shielded by your metal refrigerator case. I think that's a non issue. X-ray security scanners at the airport are a concern. Also please don't bring your film during dental or medical X-rays. I don't know how true this is. One person I met at church told me of a federal inspector, who was checking on TSA people. Right before the gate, he took his pistol out, and put it in his briefcase. Sent the briefacse through the Xray scanner. Asked the TSA person if s/he saw anything wrong. No. Got his briefcase, and ran it through again. Anything wrong? No. The inspector opened his briefcase, reholstered his pistol and said "You're fired." -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Bill Graham" wrote in message ... I keep my slide film in the freezer, but I have been told by others on this forum that it will deteriorate from the action of cosmic radiation even if frozen, so I would hesitate to say it will last forever.....I suppose I could store it inside a lead box inside my freezer, but I am in my 70's, so such a thing would probably be overkill....... |
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film storage - fridge or freezer?
"Alan Browne" wrote in message ... Stefan Patric wrote: On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 07:33:46 -0700, Beefy LaSleep wrote: I usually store in the fridge, but read about those that put film in the freezer. OK for it? More suited to long term storage? I've not had any problem with cold storage in the fridge part in the past, just wondering. Locally film (well, good film) is harder to find. I just mail ordered some Velvia 100F, and being more rolls than I will shoot right away, wondered about the cold storage options... In general, leave film in its original sealed packaging before refrigerating or freezing. Allow film to warm to "room" temperature before opening and using. Refrigerated color film is usually good for 3 years past its expiration date; b&w quite a bit longer. I've used b&w that was 5 years past with no evidence of degradation. Frozen film will keep "indefinitely." Film is frozen at room temperature - even at 50C it is still frozen. And no, it will not keep "indefinitely" but the lifetime will be extended the colder the storage. On the other hand, with extended storage time more gamma rays get to the film inexorably fogging it regardless of temperature. -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. -- usenet posts from gmail.com and googlemail.com are filtered out. I guess you could always line your fridge/freezer with lead sheeting. |
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film storage - fridge or freezer?
tconway wrote:
"Alan Browne" wrote in message ... Stefan Patric wrote: On Wed, 01 Apr 2009 07:33:46 -0700, Beefy LaSleep wrote: I usually store in the fridge, but read about those that put film in the freezer. OK for it? More suited to long term storage? I've not had any problem with cold storage in the fridge part in the past, just wondering. Locally film (well, good film) is harder to find. I just mail ordered some Velvia 100F, and being more rolls than I will shoot right away, wondered about the cold storage options... In general, leave film in its original sealed packaging before refrigerating or freezing. Allow film to warm to "room" temperature before opening and using. Refrigerated color film is usually good for 3 years past its expiration date; b&w quite a bit longer. I've used b&w that was 5 years past with no evidence of degradation. Frozen film will keep "indefinitely." Film is frozen at room temperature - even at 50C it is still frozen. And no, it will not keep "indefinitely" but the lifetime will be extended the colder the storage. On the other hand, with extended storage time more gamma rays get to the film inexorably fogging it regardless of temperature. I guess you could always line your fridge/freezer with lead sheeting. For gamma rays I believe some plastics are actually more effective. Just need an awful lot. Build a film locker under the pool - the water will absorb a lot too... I've seen other posts claiming that noticeable fogging won't occur for about 32 years for ISO 100 film. I take that to mean 8 years for ISO 400. (Not sure about the origins of those numbers). -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. -- usenet posts from gmail.com and googlemail.com are filtered out. |
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