rec.photo.equipment.slr-systems - NG charter reminder

"Charles E Hardwidge" wrote in message
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"Bob Larter" wrote in message
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Um, you're talking about yourself again, kook.

Just ignore it and talk to other people. You can't reason with or appeal
to
a kook, and responding to them just tears things down quicker.



The problem with trolls is that they can bring down a newsgroup, if they are
not ignored. The good people, who are the vast majority, simply get
disgusted and leave.

--
Peter

"Peter" wrote in message
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"Charles E Hardwidge" wrote in message
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"Bob Larter" wrote in message
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Um, you're talking about yourself again, kook.

Just ignore it and talk to other people. You can't reason with or appeal
to a kook, and responding to them just tears things down quicker.

The problem with trolls is that they can bring down a newsgroup, if they
are not ignored. The good people, who are the vast majority, simply get
disgusted and leave.

Yeah, I've seen that happen a few times. The important thing is to stay
focused and spend time with people who add to that.

Getting sucked in by the bait, spending more time with trolls than regular
people, and getting too ****ed off and angry can screw you up *and* have a
negative influence on everyone else even if that's not intended. This is how
*one* troll can bring down an entire newsgroup. People keep getting hooked
by the bait and, ironically, end up multiplying the problems. A group of
trolls is a bigger problem but similar in principle.

Nothing beats success, and there's **** all one or a million trolls can do
if people stay focused and stick together. It can get get bad if there's
enough trolls to high five each other and provide emotional support because
it can become self-sustaining. That's rare but happens. Again, it's even
more of a reason to stay focused and stick together.

--
Charles E Hardwidge

Peter wrote:

The problem with trolls is that they can bring down a newsgroup, if they
are not ignored. The good people, who are the vast majority, simply get
disgusted and leave.

One problem is that so many people are not using a good newsreader that
allows good filtering, including filtering on specific header
attributes. So they just give up on Usenet, figuring the S/N ration is
completely hopeless.

People like Navas are easy to filter because they don't constantly
change user names and e-mail addresses. The P&S troll requires more
advanced filtering to eliminate.

Peter wrote:

The problem with trolls is that they can bring down a newsgroup, if they
are not ignored. The good people, who are the vast majority, simply get
disgusted and leave.

Precisely. Hence the gentle reminder to respect charters of groups as
well as those of "sister" groups and to stamp out trolls through the
"ignore" doctrine.

SMS wrote:
Peter wrote:

The problem with trolls is that they can bring down a newsgroup, if
they are not ignored. The good people, who are the vast majority,
simply get disgusted and leave.

One problem is that so many people are not using a good newsreader that
allows good filtering, including filtering on specific header
attributes. So they just give up on Usenet, figuring the S/N ration is
completely hopeless.

People like Navas are easy to filter because they don't constantly
change user names and e-mail addresses. The P&S troll requires more
advanced filtering to eliminate.

I'm looking forward to the bug free v. of T-bird for that reason. It
allows more subtle use of the filters. Tbird 3 (beta) behaved fine for
a little while and then went bananas on me (Mac version) - I lost
newsgroups and had to re-subscribe; lost filters, etc.

Why filter Navas? It's quite entertaining to watch him corner himself.

On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:10:57 -0800, "Peter"
wrote:

"Charles E Hardwidge" wrote in message
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"Bob Larter" wrote in message
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Um, you're talking about yourself again, kook.

Just ignore it and talk to other people. You can't reason with or appeal
to
a kook, and responding to them just tears things down quicker.



The problem with trolls is that they can bring down a newsgroup, if they are
not ignored. The good people, who are the vast majority, simply get
disgusted and leave.

The problem is, little control freak resident-trolls that incessantly go
off on little red-herring tantrums because they can't refute something,
those are the ones that destroy a newsgroup. Consider yourself amongst that
group. As are the rest that started and perpetuate this thread.