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Is Panasonic FZ50 being replaced
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Several dealers in Uk are not able currently to supply the above camera and UKDigital are showing it as discontinued. Has anyone heard anything about a possible upgrading, and if so what are the new specs? Billy |
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Is Panasonic FZ50 being replaced
"Billyboy" wrote in message
... Hi, Several dealers in Uk are not able currently to supply the above camera and UKDigital are showing it as discontinued. Has anyone heard anything about a possible upgrading, and if so what are the new specs? Billy September would be about right. The FZ's tend to come out about that time. I hope the new one is better than the **** FZ50. Somebody! |
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Is Panasonic FZ50 being replaced
On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:14:08 -0700
Jeff Burke wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:06:15 -0700, "Somebody" wrote: September would be about right. The FZ's tend to come out about that time. I hope the new one is better than the **** FZ50. It won't get any better until they use a much larger sensor. A larger sensor in the same package means cutting the effective zoom way back. There have been a few cameras that have tried that. I have no idea how well they've sold. I think they should keep about the same sensor size and drop the pixel count down to 6Mp or so, where the FZ30 should have been. The package is very nice. It just needs to go on a pixel diet. Fat chance they'll listen to me. :-) Paul Allen |
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"Jeff Burke" wrote in message
... On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:06:15 -0700, "Somebody" wrote: September would be about right. The FZ's tend to come out about that time. I hope the new one is better than the **** FZ50. It won't get any better until they use a much larger sensor. That isn't going to happen. They don't feel people would want a dSLR sized camera that wasn't a dSLR. Stupid assumption of you ask me. The FZ20 and 30 are fantastic cameras. The high noise and extremely poor noise reduction make the FZ50 totally unacceptable, at least for anyone that cares about their images. Somebody! |
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"Paul Allen" wrote in message
.. . On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:14:08 -0700 Jeff Burke wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:06:15 -0700, "Somebody" wrote: September would be about right. The FZ's tend to come out about that time. I hope the new one is better than the **** FZ50. It won't get any better until they use a much larger sensor. A larger sensor in the same package means cutting the effective zoom way back. There have been a few cameras that have tried that. I have no idea how well they've sold. I think they should keep about the same sensor size and drop the pixel count down to 6Mp or so, where the FZ30 should have been. The package is very nice. It just needs to go on a pixel diet. Fat chance they'll listen to me. :-) Paul Allen No a dSLR size would be fine by me for the larger sensor. In fact I would junk my Pentax K10D for a Panasonic FZ60 that offered the larger sensor, 12X Leica lens and 10MP. Somebody! |
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Is Panasonic FZ50 being replaced
Jeff Burke wrote in
: On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:06:15 -0700, "Somebody" wrote: September would be about right. The FZ's tend to come out about that time. I hope the new one is better than the **** FZ50. It won't get any better until they use a much larger sensor. In which case you can forget about having a sharp, fast, 12x zoom in a lightweight, affordable camera. There's a reason for the small sensor. And the Venus engine doesn't do the sensor justice. The RAW data is about as good as one can expect from a sensor this small at low ISOs. Quantum efficiency is good, and read noise is lower than many DSLRs. -- John P Sheehy |
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Paul Allen wrote in
: On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:14:08 -0700 Jeff Burke wrote: I think they should keep about the same sensor size and drop the pixel count down to 6Mp or so, where the FZ30 should have been. The package is very nice. It just needs to go on a pixel diet. Fat chance they'll listen to me. :-) They shouldn't listen to you. Smaller pixels will give no major improvement in image quality; only in pixel quality. What they need to do is stop damaging the output with heavy-handed noise reduction. -- John P Sheehy |
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"Somebody" wrote in
: No a dSLR size would be fine by me for the larger sensor. In fact I would junk my Pentax K10D for a Panasonic FZ60 that offered the larger sensor, 12X Leica lens and 10MP. There is no lens available for DSLRs with 12x zoom at a constant f/2.8 and sharpness throughout the range, with IS. Why do you think it would suddenly be possible with a non-interchangeable lens? APS-sensor compacts are only going to work with fixed focal length or narrow zoom ranges. -- John P Sheehy |
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Is Panasonic FZ50 being replaced
"John Sheehy" wrote in message
... Paul Allen wrote in : On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:14:08 -0700 Jeff Burke wrote: I think they should keep about the same sensor size and drop the pixel count down to 6Mp or so, where the FZ30 should have been. The package is very nice. It just needs to go on a pixel diet. Fat chance they'll listen to me. :-) They shouldn't listen to you. Smaller pixels will give no major improvement in image quality; only in pixel quality. What they need to do is stop damaging the output with heavy-handed noise reduction. -- John P Sheehy Who said anything about smaller pixels. He said drop the resolution to 6MP that means fewer sensors points on the chip and that does make a difference in noise. Somebody! |
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Is Panasonic FZ50 being replaced
"John Sheehy" wrote in message
... "Somebody" wrote in : No a dSLR size would be fine by me for the larger sensor. In fact I would junk my Pentax K10D for a Panasonic FZ60 that offered the larger sensor, 12X Leica lens and 10MP. There is no lens available for DSLRs with 12x zoom at a constant f/2.8 and sharpness throughout the range, with IS. Why do you think it would suddenly be possible with a non-interchangeable lens? APS-sensor compacts are only going to work with fixed focal length or narrow zoom ranges. -- John P Sheehy There are several options for a 12X or higher zoom for dSLR's. Now the cost of these lenses are in the thousands. But, they are available. National Geographic photographers use them all of the time. You need to do some checking before you comment this is the second time you have said something that wasn't correct. As for a dSLR sized sensor that would allow for less noise and higher ISO's just like it does for dSLR cameras. Sure the FZ60 or whatever that did this would end up being a much larger camera because of the sensor change which means a larger lens, but it is doable. The problem is most camera makers do not feel that consumers would want such a thing and I think they are totally wrong. Oh, the camera would aslo cost more. Probably between $1200 to $1500 about what it costs for a good dSLR and high end zoom lens. Somebody! |
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