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"David Starr" wrote in message ... On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 11:46:35 GMT, "Böwsér" wrote: Right. Bill, I live in the US, and we can't police ourselves. I see that every day. So maybe you're right, if we can't police ourselves, someone else should do it for us. BTW, the only time in history what you describe has ever happened is on Dumbya's watch. maybe it's because he was on vacation for 42% of the time during the months leading up to 9/11. Yes, he wasn't even on the job. The FIRST attack on the WTC occured while Slick Willie was busy playing hide the cigar. Which was small potatoes compared to the attack during Dumbya's watch, wasn't it? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Professional Shop Rat: 14,481 days in a GM plant. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - |
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"Annika1980" wrote in message ... From: "Böwzér" William truly believes that we (the US) should be the world's police force, and he's absolutely serious. His explanations to support this are truly laughable, and riddled with gaps in logic that you could drive a truck through. I don't know the guy, but his posts are, well, not very well thought out. Sadly, his views reflect a large portion of the dittoheads in the USA. This is a result of the republican noise machine, which is absolutely second to none. They amaze me with their ability to use the "big lie" technique. Say it long, loud, and the sheep will eventually believe whatever you say. It really is a shame. |
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"Annika1980" wrote in message ... From: "Böwzér" William truly believes that we (the US) should be the world's police force, and he's absolutely serious. His explanations to support this are truly laughable, and riddled with gaps in logic that you could drive a truck through. I don't know the guy, but his posts are, well, not very well thought out. Sadly, his views reflect a large portion of the dittoheads in the USA. This is a result of the republican noise machine, which is absolutely second to none. They amaze me with their ability to use the "big lie" technique. Say it long, loud, and the sheep will eventually believe whatever you say. It really is a shame. |
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"Annika1980" wrote in message ... From: "Böwzér" William truly believes that we (the US) should be the world's police force, and he's absolutely serious. His explanations to support this are truly laughable, and riddled with gaps in logic that you could drive a truck through. I don't know the guy, but his posts are, well, not very well thought out. Sadly, his views reflect a large portion of the dittoheads in the USA. This is a result of the republican noise machine, which is absolutely second to none. They amaze me with their ability to use the "big lie" technique. Say it long, loud, and the sheep will eventually believe whatever you say. It really is a shame. |
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"Joseph Kewfi" wrote in message ... At what point in history did we suddenly become the world's police force? Was there a vote? Sounds kinda dictatorial to me. No, that's just how empire's work. "Annika1980" wrote in message ... From: "William Graham" What the "news" article says to me, is that, because terrorists are angry at us, they will increase their activities....So what else is new? Criminals are usually angry at policemen. At what point in history did we suddenly become the world's police force? Was there a vote? Sounds kinda dictatorial to me. Yes....Most criminals, when caught, would say the same, or a similar thing.....The fact remains that the only countries who have survived on this earth are the ones who have been willing to go to war to protect themselves. So, you have to decide whether you want to be a survivor, or a liberal.....I have made my choice. |
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"Joseph Kewfi" wrote in message ... At what point in history did we suddenly become the world's police force? Was there a vote? Sounds kinda dictatorial to me. No, that's just how empire's work. "Annika1980" wrote in message ... From: "William Graham" What the "news" article says to me, is that, because terrorists are angry at us, they will increase their activities....So what else is new? Criminals are usually angry at policemen. At what point in history did we suddenly become the world's police force? Was there a vote? Sounds kinda dictatorial to me. Yes....Most criminals, when caught, would say the same, or a similar thing.....The fact remains that the only countries who have survived on this earth are the ones who have been willing to go to war to protect themselves. So, you have to decide whether you want to be a survivor, or a liberal.....I have made my choice. |
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"Jeremy" wrote in message nk.net... "Böwsér" wrote in message news:vesdd.216574$wV.167376@attbi_s54... Right. Bill, I live in the US, and we can't police ourselves. I see that every day. So maybe you're right, if we can't police ourselves, someone else should do it for us. BTW, the only time in history what you describe has ever happened is on Dumbya's watch. You need to brush up on your world history. Muslims have been waging war and murdering non-Muslims for 1400 years. They nearly overran Europe, until the Austrian army routed them out and kicked them back into Turkey. And Sing Ferdinand and Queen Isabella of Spain (the ones that gave 3 boats to a guy named Columbus . . . ) kicked them across the Strait of Gibraltar back into Africa, when they tried to take over Spain. President John Quincy Adams, our 6th President, knew something of Jihad, as evidenced by this quote: "The precept of the Koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that Mahomet is the prophet of God. The vanquished may purchase their lives, by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false and delusive promise of peace; and the faithful follower of the prophet, may submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed alike, by fraud, or by force. Of Mahometan good faith, we have had memorable examples ourselves. When our gallant [Stephen] Decatur had chastised the pirate of Algiers, till he was ready to renounce his claim of tribute from the United States, he signed a treaty to that effect: but the treaty was drawn up in the Arabic language, as well as in our own; and our negotiators, unacquainted with the language of the Koran, signed the copies of the treaty, in both languages, not imagining that there was any difference between them. Within a year the Dey demands, under penalty of the renewal of the war, an indemnity in money for the frigate taken by Decatur; our Consul demands the foundation of this pretension; and the Arabic copy of the treaty, signed by himself is produced, with an article stipulating the indemnity, foisted into it, in direct opposition to the treaty as it had been concluded." Everywhere Muslims go they bring war, terror and murder, all to advance their agenda of forcing all people to convert. I am not making this up--just go to your public library and read some history. For all his deficiencies, Bush did not create this problem. Forget the Muslims....Just read world history in general....The only nations who have survived for any decent period of time have been the ones who maintained a large Army, and were willing to use it. This country is only 250 years old, and already the liberals are nipping at our army, and groveling at the feet of anyone and everyone who threatens us.......Personally, I don't have much hope for us........ |
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"Jeremy" wrote in message nk.net... "Böwsér" wrote in message news:vesdd.216574$wV.167376@attbi_s54... Right. Bill, I live in the US, and we can't police ourselves. I see that every day. So maybe you're right, if we can't police ourselves, someone else should do it for us. BTW, the only time in history what you describe has ever happened is on Dumbya's watch. You need to brush up on your world history. Muslims have been waging war and murdering non-Muslims for 1400 years. They nearly overran Europe, until the Austrian army routed them out and kicked them back into Turkey. And Sing Ferdinand and Queen Isabella of Spain (the ones that gave 3 boats to a guy named Columbus . . . ) kicked them across the Strait of Gibraltar back into Africa, when they tried to take over Spain. President John Quincy Adams, our 6th President, knew something of Jihad, as evidenced by this quote: "The precept of the Koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that Mahomet is the prophet of God. The vanquished may purchase their lives, by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false and delusive promise of peace; and the faithful follower of the prophet, may submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed alike, by fraud, or by force. Of Mahometan good faith, we have had memorable examples ourselves. When our gallant [Stephen] Decatur had chastised the pirate of Algiers, till he was ready to renounce his claim of tribute from the United States, he signed a treaty to that effect: but the treaty was drawn up in the Arabic language, as well as in our own; and our negotiators, unacquainted with the language of the Koran, signed the copies of the treaty, in both languages, not imagining that there was any difference between them. Within a year the Dey demands, under penalty of the renewal of the war, an indemnity in money for the frigate taken by Decatur; our Consul demands the foundation of this pretension; and the Arabic copy of the treaty, signed by himself is produced, with an article stipulating the indemnity, foisted into it, in direct opposition to the treaty as it had been concluded." Everywhere Muslims go they bring war, terror and murder, all to advance their agenda of forcing all people to convert. I am not making this up--just go to your public library and read some history. For all his deficiencies, Bush did not create this problem. Forget the Muslims....Just read world history in general....The only nations who have survived for any decent period of time have been the ones who maintained a large Army, and were willing to use it. This country is only 250 years old, and already the liberals are nipping at our army, and groveling at the feet of anyone and everyone who threatens us.......Personally, I don't have much hope for us........ |
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"Böwzér" wrote in message ... "Jeremy" wrote in message nk.net... "Böwsér" wrote in message news:vesdd.216574$wV.167376@attbi_s54... Right. Bill, I live in the US, and we can't police ourselves. I see that every day. So maybe you're right, if we can't police ourselves, someone else should do it for us. BTW, the only time in history what you describe has ever happened is on Dumbya's watch. You need to brush up on your world history. Muslims have been waging war and murdering non-Muslims for 1400 years. They nearly overran Europe, until the Austrian army routed them out and kicked them back into Turkey. And Sing Ferdinand and Queen Isabella of Spain (the ones that gave 3 boats to a guy named Columbus . . . ) kicked them across the Strait of Gibraltar back into Africa, when they tried to take over Spain. I meant for the US. We've never suffered an attack like that in our recent history. Bush was asleep at the switch, and we paid for it. What nonsense! What could Bush have done about 9/11, when the CIA was gutted back in the 70's and it became politically incorrect to maintain any secret organization whatsoever? I remember a presidential directive, (under Richard Nixon, I believe) that said from now on, the CIA would have to publish a list of every cent they spent. This effectively made it impossible for them to maintain any operatives, or perform any clandestine operations from that point on. It effectively disbanded that organization....Of what use is a CIA if they can't carry on anything in secret? How can they possible know where the Al Queda is doing if they can't infiltrate them with their operatives? You can't blame Bush, or even Clinton, for that......You can, however, blame the liberals. (and I do, brother, I do.) |
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"Böwzér" wrote in message ... "Jeremy" wrote in message nk.net... "Böwsér" wrote in message news:vesdd.216574$wV.167376@attbi_s54... Right. Bill, I live in the US, and we can't police ourselves. I see that every day. So maybe you're right, if we can't police ourselves, someone else should do it for us. BTW, the only time in history what you describe has ever happened is on Dumbya's watch. You need to brush up on your world history. Muslims have been waging war and murdering non-Muslims for 1400 years. They nearly overran Europe, until the Austrian army routed them out and kicked them back into Turkey. And Sing Ferdinand and Queen Isabella of Spain (the ones that gave 3 boats to a guy named Columbus . . . ) kicked them across the Strait of Gibraltar back into Africa, when they tried to take over Spain. I meant for the US. We've never suffered an attack like that in our recent history. Bush was asleep at the switch, and we paid for it. What nonsense! What could Bush have done about 9/11, when the CIA was gutted back in the 70's and it became politically incorrect to maintain any secret organization whatsoever? I remember a presidential directive, (under Richard Nixon, I believe) that said from now on, the CIA would have to publish a list of every cent they spent. This effectively made it impossible for them to maintain any operatives, or perform any clandestine operations from that point on. It effectively disbanded that organization....Of what use is a CIA if they can't carry on anything in secret? How can they possible know where the Al Queda is doing if they can't infiltrate them with their operatives? You can't blame Bush, or even Clinton, for that......You can, however, blame the liberals. (and I do, brother, I do.) |
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