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Old August 6th 15, 04:52 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Sandman
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In article , android wrote:

Bill W:
When I buy a new camera body, the previous
one ends up in a closet. It crossed my mind to put a
walkaround lens on an earlier body, and throw it in
the trunk of my car, so I always have a decent
camera with me - one that is good in low light. But
it gets hot around here, and the car could end up
sitting in the sun in 110 degree heat. Does anyone
know if this can cause a problem? I'm mainly talking
about the possible volatilization of materials
inside the camera or lens that could end up leaving
a film on the sensor, or on the inside of the lens.
Anyone have any idea if there is a risk of that?

I don't think there's a risk of any other heat
damage.

Savageduck:
You are probably better off keeping it in
a cheap soft bag (I have a number of those) which
will provide a degree of insulation. Then rather than
keeping it in the trunk, put that bag on the floor
behind the passenger seat. That way it is reasonably
afforded some protection from temperature extremes,
and it is easily reachable from within the car. You
can also cover it with a towel or small blanket which
will provide an additional insullating layer

charles:
Potential problem here. In a warm humid
climate with an air conditioned car, I grabbed the
camera, jumped out of the car and watched the scene turn
to fog.

Andreas Skitsnack:
I deal with that all of the time. This
morning I took the grandsons to a Jacksonville Jaguars
practice. No photos until the fog dissipated from the
lens.

Sandman:
There are anti-fog cloths and solvents you can use
on your lenses to prevent this.

PeterN:
When the condensation is caused by temperature differential,
until there is an equalization between the ambient
temperature and the glass, fog clothes and solvents will not
be effective.

Sandman:
Works all the time for me, perhaps you haven't find any good
ones?


Andreas Skitsnack:
I haven't tried them because it's a problem that clears itself up
within a short time, but is the temperature and humidity
differential from an air conditioned automobile and the outside in
Sweden the same as it is Florida?


Is this of any assistance?
http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/ESOW.html


Probably not to a general question. Today is a pretty sunny day though, but
this summer has been a bit crap.

We don't get Florida-type weather here, of course, but our summers can be
unbearably hot as well

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  #22  
Old August 6th 15, 04:56 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Sandman
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In article , Andreas Skitsnack wrote:

PeterN:
When the condensation is caused by temperature differential,
until there is an equalization between the ambient
temperature and the glass, fog clothes and solvents will
not be effective.

Sandman:
Works all the time for me, perhaps you haven't find any good
ones?

Andreas Skitsnack:
I haven't tried them because it's a problem that clears itself
up within a short time, but is the temperature and humidity
differential from an air conditioned automobile and the outside
in Sweden the same as it is Florida?


android:
Is this of any assistance?
http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/ESOW.html


Not really. The question was rhetorical.


Makes sense, since Peter doesn't live in Florida.

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  #23  
Old August 6th 15, 05:53 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 8/6/2015 10:13 AM, android wrote:
In article , android
wrote:

In article ,
Sandman wrote:

In article , android wrote:

Bill W:
When I buy a new camera body, the previous one
ends up in a closet. It crossed my mind to put a
walkaround lens on an earlier body, and throw it in the
trunk of my car, so I always have a decent camera with me
- one that is good in low light. But it gets hot around
here, and the car could end up sitting in the sun in 110
degree heat. Does anyone know if this can cause a problem?
I'm mainly talking about the possible volatilization of
materials inside the camera or lens that could end up
leaving a film on the sensor, or on the inside of the
lens. Anyone have any idea if there is a risk of that?

I don't think there's a risk of any other heat damage.

Savageduck:
You are probably better off keeping it in a
cheap soft bag (I have a number of those) which will
provide a degree of insulation. Then rather than keeping it
in the trunk, put that bag on the floor behind the
passenger seat. That way it is reasonably afforded some
protection from temperature extremes, and it is easily
reachable from within the car. You can also cover it with a
towel or small blanket which will provide an additional
insullating layer

charles:
Potential problem here. In a warm humid climate with
an air conditioned car, I grabbed the camera, jumped out of
the car and watched the scene turn to fog.

Andreas Skitsnack:
I deal with that all of the time. This morning I took the
grandsons to a Jacksonville Jaguars practice. No photos until
the fog dissipated from the lens.

Sandman:
There are anti-fog cloths and solvents you can use on your lenses
to prevent this.

Do they work for fog acquired in D-Types mark II?

I don't know what that is...


http://tinyurl.com/oa6a3vt


Opps! that one never got a mark II. Sorry.


Same principle. A raw potato rubbed on the windshield works just as well.


--
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  #24  
Old August 6th 15, 05:55 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
PeterN[_6_]
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On 8/6/2015 10:22 AM, Sandman wrote:
In article , PeterN wrote:

Bill W:
When I buy a new camera body, the previous one
ends up in a closet. It crossed my mind to put a
walkaround lens on an earlier body, and throw it in the
trunk of my car, so I always have a decent camera with me
- one that is good in low light. But it gets hot around
here, and the car could end up sitting in the sun in 110
degree heat. Does anyone know if this can cause a problem?
I'm mainly talking about the possible volatilization of
materials inside the camera or lens that could end up
leaving a film on the sensor, or on the inside of the
lens. Anyone have any idea if there is a risk of that?

I don't think there's a risk of any other heat damage.

Savageduck:
You are probably better off keeping it in a
cheap soft bag (I have a number of those) which will
provide a degree of insulation. Then rather than keeping it
in the trunk, put that bag on the floor behind the
passenger seat. That way it is reasonably afforded some
protection from temperature extremes, and it is easily
reachable from within the car. You can also cover it with a
towel or small blanket which will provide an additional
insullating layer

charles:
Potential problem here. In a warm humid climate with
an air conditioned car, I grabbed the camera, jumped out of
the car and watched the scene turn to fog.

Andreas Skitsnack:
I deal with that all of the time. This morning I took the
grandsons to a Jacksonville Jaguars practice. No photos until
the fog dissipated from the lens.

Sandman:
There are anti-fog cloths and solvents you can use on your lenses
to prevent this.


When the condensation is caused by temperature differential, until
there is an equalization between the ambient temperature and the
glass, fog clothes and solvents will not be effective.


Works all the time for me, perhaps you haven't find any good ones?


I was thinking post condensate. Didn't realize you were talking about a
pre-treatment. I would be careful about what I rubbed on my lens.

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  #25  
Old August 6th 15, 07:23 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
android
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Default Will I regret keeping a good camera in my trunk?

In article ,
Sandman wrote:

In article , android wrote:

Bill W:
When I buy a new camera body, the previous
one ends up in a closet. It crossed my mind to put a
walkaround lens on an earlier body, and throw it in
the trunk of my car, so I always have a decent
camera with me - one that is good in low light. But
it gets hot around here, and the car could end up
sitting in the sun in 110 degree heat. Does anyone
know if this can cause a problem? I'm mainly talking
about the possible volatilization of materials
inside the camera or lens that could end up leaving
a film on the sensor, or on the inside of the lens.
Anyone have any idea if there is a risk of that?

I don't think there's a risk of any other heat
damage.

Savageduck:
You are probably better off keeping it in
a cheap soft bag (I have a number of those) which
will provide a degree of insulation. Then rather than
keeping it in the trunk, put that bag on the floor
behind the passenger seat. That way it is reasonably
afforded some protection from temperature extremes,
and it is easily reachable from within the car. You
can also cover it with a towel or small blanket which
will provide an additional insullating layer

charles:
Potential problem here. In a warm humid
climate with an air conditioned car, I grabbed the
camera, jumped out of the car and watched the scene turn
to fog.

Andreas Skitsnack:
I deal with that all of the time. This
morning I took the grandsons to a Jacksonville Jaguars
practice. No photos until the fog dissipated from the
lens.

Sandman:
There are anti-fog cloths and solvents you can use
on your lenses to prevent this.

PeterN:
When the condensation is caused by temperature differential,
until there is an equalization between the ambient
temperature and the glass, fog clothes and solvents will not
be effective.

Sandman:
Works all the time for me, perhaps you haven't find any good
ones?

Andreas Skitsnack:
I haven't tried them because it's a problem that clears itself up
within a short time, but is the temperature and humidity
differential from an air conditioned automobile and the outside in
Sweden the same as it is Florida?


Is this of any assistance?
http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/ESOW.html


Probably not to a general question. Today is a pretty sunny day though, but
this summer has been a bit crap.

We don't get Florida-type weather here, of course, but our summers can be
unbearably hot as well


So you do get fungus on thou lenses frequently?
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  #26  
Old August 6th 15, 07:25 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
android
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In article ,
PeterN wrote:

On 8/6/2015 10:13 AM, android wrote:
In article , android
wrote:

In article ,
Sandman wrote:

In article , android wrote:

Bill W:
When I buy a new camera body, the previous one
ends up in a closet. It crossed my mind to put a
walkaround lens on an earlier body, and throw it in the
trunk of my car, so I always have a decent camera with me
- one that is good in low light. But it gets hot around
here, and the car could end up sitting in the sun in 110
degree heat. Does anyone know if this can cause a problem?
I'm mainly talking about the possible volatilization of
materials inside the camera or lens that could end up
leaving a film on the sensor, or on the inside of the
lens. Anyone have any idea if there is a risk of that?

I don't think there's a risk of any other heat damage.

Savageduck:
You are probably better off keeping it in a
cheap soft bag (I have a number of those) which will
provide a degree of insulation. Then rather than keeping it
in the trunk, put that bag on the floor behind the
passenger seat. That way it is reasonably afforded some
protection from temperature extremes, and it is easily
reachable from within the car. You can also cover it with a
towel or small blanket which will provide an additional
insullating layer

charles:
Potential problem here. In a warm humid climate with
an air conditioned car, I grabbed the camera, jumped out of
the car and watched the scene turn to fog.

Andreas Skitsnack:
I deal with that all of the time. This morning I took the
grandsons to a Jacksonville Jaguars practice. No photos until
the fog dissipated from the lens.

Sandman:
There are anti-fog cloths and solvents you can use on your lenses
to prevent this.

Do they work for fog acquired in D-Types mark II?

I don't know what that is...

http://tinyurl.com/oa6a3vt


Opps! that one never got a mark II. Sorry.


Same principle. A raw potato rubbed on the windshield works just as well.


Good to know!
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  #27  
Old August 6th 15, 08:22 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
PeterN[_6_]
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On 8/6/2015 2:23 PM, android wrote:
In article ,
Sandman wrote:

In article , android wrote:

Bill W:
When I buy a new camera body, the previous
one ends up in a closet. It crossed my mind to put a
walkaround lens on an earlier body, and throw it in
the trunk of my car, so I always have a decent
camera with me - one that is good in low light. But
it gets hot around here, and the car could end up
sitting in the sun in 110 degree heat. Does anyone
know if this can cause a problem? I'm mainly talking
about the possible volatilization of materials
inside the camera or lens that could end up leaving
a film on the sensor, or on the inside of the lens.
Anyone have any idea if there is a risk of that?

I don't think there's a risk of any other heat
damage.

Savageduck:
You are probably better off keeping it in
a cheap soft bag (I have a number of those) which
will provide a degree of insulation. Then rather than
keeping it in the trunk, put that bag on the floor
behind the passenger seat. That way it is reasonably
afforded some protection from temperature extremes,
and it is easily reachable from within the car. You
can also cover it with a towel or small blanket which
will provide an additional insullating layer

charles:
Potential problem here. In a warm humid
climate with an air conditioned car, I grabbed the
camera, jumped out of the car and watched the scene turn
to fog.

Andreas Skitsnack:
I deal with that all of the time. This
morning I took the grandsons to a Jacksonville Jaguars
practice. No photos until the fog dissipated from the
lens.

Sandman:
There are anti-fog cloths and solvents you can use
on your lenses to prevent this.

PeterN:
When the condensation is caused by temperature differential,
until there is an equalization between the ambient
temperature and the glass, fog clothes and solvents will not
be effective.

Sandman:
Works all the time for me, perhaps you haven't find any good
ones?

Andreas Skitsnack:
I haven't tried them because it's a problem that clears itself up
within a short time, but is the temperature and humidity
differential from an air conditioned automobile and the outside in
Sweden the same as it is Florida?

Is this of any assistance?
http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/ESOW.html


Probably not to a general question. Today is a pretty sunny day though, but
this summer has been a bit crap.

We don't get Florida-type weather here, of course, but our summers can be
unbearably hot as well


So you do get fungus on thou lenses frequently?


Florida is one of the worst States for growing mushrooms.

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PeterN
  #28  
Old August 6th 15, 08:32 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
android
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In article ,
PeterN wrote:

On 8/6/2015 2:23 PM, android wrote:
In article ,
Sandman wrote:

In article , android wrote:

Bill W:
When I buy a new camera body, the previous
one ends up in a closet. It crossed my mind to put a
walkaround lens on an earlier body, and throw it in
the trunk of my car, so I always have a decent
camera with me - one that is good in low light. But
it gets hot around here, and the car could end up
sitting in the sun in 110 degree heat. Does anyone
know if this can cause a problem? I'm mainly talking
about the possible volatilization of materials
inside the camera or lens that could end up leaving
a film on the sensor, or on the inside of the lens.
Anyone have any idea if there is a risk of that?

I don't think there's a risk of any other heat
damage.

Savageduck:
You are probably better off keeping it in
a cheap soft bag (I have a number of those) which
will provide a degree of insulation. Then rather than
keeping it in the trunk, put that bag on the floor
behind the passenger seat. That way it is reasonably
afforded some protection from temperature extremes,
and it is easily reachable from within the car. You
can also cover it with a towel or small blanket which
will provide an additional insullating layer

charles:
Potential problem here. In a warm humid
climate with an air conditioned car, I grabbed the
camera, jumped out of the car and watched the scene turn
to fog.

Andreas Skitsnack:
I deal with that all of the time. This
morning I took the grandsons to a Jacksonville Jaguars
practice. No photos until the fog dissipated from the
lens.

Sandman:
There are anti-fog cloths and solvents you can use
on your lenses to prevent this.

PeterN:
When the condensation is caused by temperature differential,
until there is an equalization between the ambient
temperature and the glass, fog clothes and solvents will not
be effective.

Sandman:
Works all the time for me, perhaps you haven't find any good
ones?

Andreas Skitsnack:
I haven't tried them because it's a problem that clears itself up
within a short time, but is the temperature and humidity
differential from an air conditioned automobile and the outside in
Sweden the same as it is Florida?

Is this of any assistance?
http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/ESOW.html

Probably not to a general question. Today is a pretty sunny day though, but
this summer has been a bit crap.

We don't get Florida-type weather here, of course, but our summers can be
unbearably hot as well


So you do get fungus on thou lenses frequently?


Florida is one of the worst States for growing mushrooms.


Err... Nevermind!!!
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  #29  
Old August 6th 15, 11:09 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Thu, 6 Aug 2015 11:32:46 -0400, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2015-08-04 00:05, Bill W wrote:
When I buy a new camera body, the previous one ends up in a closet. It
crossed my mind to put a walkaround lens on an earlier body, and throw
it in the trunk of my car, so I always have a decent camera with me -
one that is good in low light. But it gets hot around here, and the
car could end up sitting in the sun in 110 degree heat. Does anyone
know if this can cause a problem? I'm mainly talking about the
possible volatilization of materials inside the camera or lens that
could end up leaving a film on the sensor, or on the inside of the
lens. Anyone have any idea if there is a risk of that?

I don't think there's a risk of any other heat damage.


Running lubes and evaporation to be sure as a risk.

Abuse to the batteries, likely.

Electronics turned on 'hot' don't cool well - OTOH cameras, other than
the sensor, don't heat up much. A hot sensor may show more noise esp.
at higher ISO.

You could mitigate all that by getting a cheap cooler and keeping
everything in there. At least that would slow the warming up. OTOH, if
it gets (eventually) hot in the cooler, it will also slow night time
cooling. But if you dig it out often enough, then it should be cooler
than outright leaving it in the trunk.

Can't you bring it during the day? (at work I assume - many work places
won't allow it of course - though they're blind to cell phones and their
cameras...)

There is also the problem of volatalising plasticisers from plastic
material. It is these which form a visible film over time on the
inside of automobile window glass. The problem isn't as bad as it used
to be but I would be surprised if it had gone away entirely.

Keeping a camera in a warm environment filled with plastics exposes
every surface to the risk of a film forming. The highest risks will
come from the plastics of which the camera is made. (Thinks: What
about the all-plastic interior of my Pelican carry case?).

Plasticiser films develop slowly and you may not even notice that it
is happening. It would not surprise me if it could lead to a slow
degradation of a camera and its lens. Maybe that's why I became
dissatisfied with the performance of my D300? I will never know.
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Eric Stevens
  #30  
Old August 7th 15, 04:51 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 6 Aug 2015 08:26:00 GMT, Sandman wrote:

In article , Andreas Skitsnack wrote:

Savageduck:
On 2015-08-04 04:05:04 +0000, Bill W said:

Bill W:
When I buy a new camera body, the previous one ends up in a
closet. It crossed my mind to put a walkaround lens on an
earlier body, and throw it in the trunk of my car, so I always
have a decent camera with me - one that is good in low light.
But it gets hot around here, and the car could end up sitting
in the sun in 110 degree heat. Does anyone know if this can
cause a problem? I'm mainly talking about the possible
volatilization of materials inside the camera or lens that
could end up leaving a film on the sensor, or on the inside of
the lens. Anyone have any idea if there is a risk of that?

I don't think there's a risk of any other heat damage.

Savageduck:
You are probably better off keeping it in a cheap soft bag (I
have a number of those) which will provide a degree of
insulation. Then rather than keeping it in the trunk, put that
bag on the floor behind the passenger seat. That way it is
reasonably afforded some protection from temperature extremes,
and it is easily reachable from within the car. You can also
cover it with a towel or small blanket which will provide an
additional insullating layer

charles:
Potential problem here. In a warm humid climate with an air
conditioned car, I grabbed the camera, jumped out of the car and
watched the scene turn to fog.


I deal with that all of the time. This morning I took the grandsons
to a Jacksonville Jaguars practice. No photos until the fog
dissipated from the lens.


There are anti-fog cloths and solvents you can use on your lenses to prevent
this.



I wasn't aware of anything good for that purpose. Years ago I got
some stuff that was supposed to work on mirrors and eyeglasses, but
never did very well. No way I would have put that on a camera lens.
Maybe newer stuff is better, my current solution is to stay out of the
tropics.
 




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