Rollei 6008 metering issues

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"MikeWhy" wrote:

"Bob Salomon" wrote in message
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The 6008, and the earlier 6006, has a deadly accurate metering system.

Bob, I think you've just set a usenet record for noise to signal, by quoting
the two preceding messages not just once, but twice, and then followed up
with this somewhat less than inciteful summation. Should he send in his 6008
for service? Send in both the F80 and meter for recalibration? Shoot the
white wall and expect a middle gray densities? ???


No he should shoot a roll of E6 on full auto using both the multispot
mode and the spot mode.

What ends up on the film is what counts. Trying to compare dissimilar
metering systems with different metering patterns and different angles
of acceptance is not always as easy as pointing them at a large white
wall.

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Hi,

Recently, Bob Salomon posted:

In article ,
"MikeWhy" wrote:

"Bob Salomon" wrote in message
...
The 6008, and the earlier 6006, has a deadly accurate metering
system.

Bob, I think you've just set a usenet record for noise to signal, by
quoting the two preceding messages not just once, but twice, and
then followed up with this somewhat less than inciteful summation.
Should he send in his 6008 for service? Send in both the F80 and
meter for recalibration? Shoot the white wall and expect a middle
gray densities? ???


No he should shoot a roll of E6 on full auto using both the multispot
mode and the spot mode.

What ends up on the film is what counts. Trying to compare dissimilar
metering systems with different metering patterns and different angles
of acceptance is not always as easy as pointing them at a large white
wall.

I agree, and add that the test should also include average mode *and* the
values suggested by the other meters in manual mode on the same roll. At
that point, a decision can be made as to what needs to be fixed. Perhaps
all is just as it should be.

Regards,

Neil

It gives the exposure that it indicates, and over exposes!

On 28/1/04 9:21 pm, in article
, "Bob Salomon"
wrote:

In article ,
ktphotonics wrote:

I have just bought a 6008. The meter is accurate in daylight, but at low
light levels the meter starts to increasingly over expose, up to 2 stops at
the low light threshold. The target is a large white wall.

The meter I am comparing to is a Minolta flashmeter VI and a new Nikon F80.

Has anyone else had similar experiences?

Chris Woodhouse ARPS


what does it do when you use it to take pictures?

I would ordinarily agree for sub-stop issues. The shutter speeds are
accurate to the indicated value and the aperture likewise, hence I really
don't need to shoot tons of film especially when I have used the Minolta
Flashmeter VI extensively and I know its readings are dependable. In each
case the metering angle was 1 or 2 degrees, the target was matt, so there
were no specular reflections and so on.......

On 29/1/04 11:21 am, in article
, "Bob Salomon"
wrote:

In article ,
"MikeWhy" wrote:

"Bob Salomon" wrote in message
...
The 6008, and the earlier 6006, has a deadly accurate metering system.

Bob, I think you've just set a usenet record for noise to signal, by quoting
the two preceding messages not just once, but twice, and then followed up
with this somewhat less than inciteful summation. Should he send in his 6008
for service? Send in both the F80 and meter for recalibration? Shoot the
white wall and expect a middle gray densities? ???


No he should shoot a roll of E6 on full auto using both the multispot
mode and the spot mode.

What ends up on the film is what counts. Trying to compare dissimilar
metering systems with different metering patterns and different angles
of acceptance is not always as easy as pointing them at a large white
wall.

That's a bummer, especially at six grand.. I would be discussing this with
my seller...
denny

"ktphotonics" wrote in message
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It gives the exposure that it indicates, and over exposes!

Recently, ktphotonics posted:

It gives the exposure that it indicates, and over exposes!

In that case, you've answered your question. If this is a new camera, you
should be able to have it adjusted under warranty. I'd be very surprised
if this isn't some kind of anomaly. My 6008i meters as accurately as my
hand-held Minolta Flashmeter under all conditions so far (about 1-1/2
years old).

Neil

In article ,
ktphotonics wrote:

It gives the exposure that it indicates, and over exposes!

On 28/1/04 9:21 pm, in article
, "Bob Salomon"
wrote:

In article ,
ktphotonics wrote:

I have just bought a 6008. The meter is accurate in daylight, but at low
light levels the meter starts to increasingly over expose, up to 2 stops at
the low light threshold. The target is a large white wall.

The meter I am comparing to is a Minolta flashmeter VI and a new Nikon F80.

Has anyone else had similar experiences?

Chris Woodhouse ARPS


what does it do when you use it to take pictures?


Then you should either have it serviced if used or talk to the store if
new or use the exposure compensation knob.

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"Dennis O'Connor" wrote in message
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That's a bummer, especially at six grand.. I would be discussing this
with
my seller...
denny

"ktphotonics" wrote in message
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It gives the exposure that it indicates, and over exposes!




Rollei's don't cost 6K. Not even the AF version with the Schneider 80/2.8
AF lens. Best price I can find is under $3,800 for the full body
(body+mag+grip+battery+charger+screen) and the standard AF lens.

Jim - just trying to kill the "Rollei's are EXPENSIVE" myth...



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"Jim Phelps" wrote in message
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"ktphotonics" wrote in message
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I have just bought a 6008. The meter is accurate in daylight, but at low
light levels the meter starts to increasingly over expose, up to 2 stops
at
the low light threshold. The target is a large white wall.

The meter I am comparing to is a Minolta flashmeter VI and a new Nikon
F80.

Has anyone else had similar experiences?

Chris Woodhouse ARPS


Chris,

I'll check this out tonight when I get home. I have a new Sekonic
L-558
to compare the internal meter to my 6008I. I'll use both metering mode to
be sure (spot and average).

Jim



Chris,

I did this using both a white wall and a 18% gray card. Exposures for
both in spot mode were the same. About 1 to 1/13 stop different in the
averaging mode. Looks like your Rollei meter has a problem.

Jim



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OK - though I did take the 30 seconds to jump to B&H for their out-the-door
price on a full kit, 6008+80+back, because I didn't know, before posting...
Guess I don't get my paychecks cashed in the right neighborhood...
denny
"Jim Phelps" wrote in message
...

"Dennis O'Connor" wrote in message
...
That's a bummer, especially at six grand.. I would be discussing this
with
my seller...
denny

"ktphotonics" wrote in message
...
It gives the exposure that it indicates, and over exposes!




Rollei's don't cost 6K. Not even the AF version with the Schneider 80/2.8
AF lens. Best price I can find is under $3,800 for the full body
(body+mag+grip+battery+charger+screen) and the standard AF lens.

Jim - just trying to kill the "Rollei's are EXPENSIVE" myth...




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