Flaw in T. Phillips "Digital is not photography" argument

"jjs" wrote in message ...

"Matt Clara" wrote in message
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"jjs" wrote in message
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Ah, but do you have a degree in philosophy?

Also, as far as philosophical debates go, this one is still trivial.
Hardly epistemology, now, is it?

What I'm trying to do is pin down the original author's internal view, his
ground of what he considers photography, for example is it strictly light
falling upon a traditional recording medium and intended to make a
"picture" (rather than the phenonema of sunburn or something like that)?
Or is it anything other than digital?

I suspect the author is fostering a romantic notion of photography vs.
this new digital stuff - the superiority of "that which came first" kind
of thing, without speaking to what makes it superior.




Yes, agreed. You say romantic, where I'd say sentimental.

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"jjs" wrote in message ...

"Matt Clara" wrote in message
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"jjs" wrote in message
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Ah, but do you have a degree in philosophy?

Also, as far as philosophical debates go, this one is still trivial.
Hardly epistemology, now, is it?

What I'm trying to do is pin down the original author's internal view, his
ground of what he considers photography, for example is it strictly light
falling upon a traditional recording medium and intended to make a
"picture" (rather than the phenonema of sunburn or something like that)?
Or is it anything other than digital?

I suspect the author is fostering a romantic notion of photography vs.
this new digital stuff - the superiority of "that which came first" kind
of thing, without speaking to what makes it superior.




Yes, agreed. You say romantic, where I'd say sentimental.

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Regards,
Matt Clara
www.mattclara.com

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"Tom Phillips" wrote in message

Your argument is absolutely meaningless to any photographer living or
dead.
And I have a masters in English, so that trumps your "major".

Ah, but do you have a degree in philosophy? How am I doing? English is my
second language.

I have a degree in philosophy and have published in Semiotica, and I
say the MEDIUM makes no difference whatsoever in calling something
'photography'. The FUNCTIONAL meaning is what's important, and since
the image derives mechanically from captured focused light rays, it's
photography.

Thus sayeth Scarpitti.

"jjs" wrote in message ...
"Matt Clara" wrote in message
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"Tom Phillips" wrote in message

Your argument is absolutely meaningless to any photographer living or
dead.
And I have a masters in English, so that trumps your "major".

Ah, but do you have a degree in philosophy? How am I doing? English is my
second language.

I have a degree in philosophy and have published in Semiotica, and I
say the MEDIUM makes no difference whatsoever in calling something
'photography'. The FUNCTIONAL meaning is what's important, and since
the image derives mechanically from captured focused light rays, it's
photography.

Thus sayeth Scarpitti.

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"sally" wrote:


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Sh*t--I forgot to change the name setting--I'm posting from my wife's
computer while on lunch!

Ok "Sally" ;-)
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"sally" wrote:


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Matt Clara
www.mattclara.com


Sh*t--I forgot to change the name setting--I'm posting from my wife's
computer while on lunch!

Ok "Sally" ;-)
--
LF Website @ http://members.verizon.net/~gregoryblank

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong,
is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918

Uranium Committee wrote:

"jjs" wrote in message ...
"Matt Clara" wrote in message
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"Tom Phillips" wrote in message

Your argument is absolutely meaningless to any photographer living or
dead.
And I have a masters in English, so that trumps your "major".

Ah, but do you have a degree in philosophy? How am I doing? English is my
second language.

I have a degree in philosophy . . . . . . . . .

I never knew that a degree in philosphy was a requirement for working at a camera
store . . . . . . . . learn something nearly every day . . . I guess . . . . . .
..

Uranium Committee wrote:

"jjs" wrote in message ...
"Matt Clara" wrote in message
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"Tom Phillips" wrote in message

Your argument is absolutely meaningless to any photographer living or
dead.
And I have a masters in English, so that trumps your "major".

Ah, but do you have a degree in philosophy? How am I doing? English is my
second language.

I have a degree in philosophy . . . . . . . . .

I never knew that a degree in philosphy was a requirement for working at a camera
store . . . . . . . . learn something nearly every day . . . I guess . . . . . .
..

Matt Clara wrote:

"jjs" wrote in message ...
"Matt Clara" wrote in message
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"Tom Phillips" wrote in message

Your argument is absolutely meaningless to any photographer living or
dead.
And I have a masters in English, so that trumps your "major".

Ah, but do you have a degree in philosophy?

Also, as far as philosophical debates go, this one is still trivial. Hardly
epistemology, now, is it?

Facts are facts. Digital does not produce a photograph. It is
impossible for silicon to record a permanent image.

epistemology or no...

Matt Clara wrote:

"jjs" wrote in message ...
"Matt Clara" wrote in message
...
"Tom Phillips" wrote in message

Your argument is absolutely meaningless to any photographer living or
dead.
And I have a masters in English, so that trumps your "major".

Ah, but do you have a degree in philosophy?

Also, as far as philosophical debates go, this one is still trivial. Hardly
epistemology, now, is it?

Facts are facts. Digital does not produce a photograph. It is
impossible for silicon to record a permanent image.

epistemology or no...